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What is there to "get" about Shakespeare?'


This movie is a masterpiece tarnished and ruined by the horrific tangle of Shakespearean language. Is art truly good when no one past the time in which it was produced can even understand it?? Even in modernized english it is unintelligible. By contrast, Medea and many works of the Ancient World can be read with minimal updating and not only are they gorgeous but perfectly understandable. So why the hell is this playright still being rammed down everyone's esophagus? It doesn't make any sense to me. Should it be dismissed??

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I think part of the fun of reading Shakespeare is the challenge of its language. It's technically "Modern English", but it has stylings we're not used to that have been thrown by the wayside in the 400 years since Bill wrote.

Unless you're fluent in Ancient Greek (as in the case of Medea) or Old English or whatever antiquated tongue that an old text was written in, you're going to be reading a modern English translation. It's not a fair comparison.

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Agreed. Most of the brillance of Shakespeare for me is just the tragic nature of humanity in his plays. Not the language, but the morals that we derive from them. I feel this film could have been an entire league of its own if it just took the base story, and used modern language that we could all understand. It's a deeply depressing film that manages to make Macbeth somewhat of a sympathetic character more so than the other adaptations did. Most other movies made Macbeth out to be the power hungry one (which I guess he was according to the story), but here it was a little different. The power was sought by his wife. It didn't feel like he even wanted it until she pushed him to grab it. And then end result is a monstrosity that she never knew existed.

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does it use modern language? I'm rehearsing Macbeth at the moment so am watching various productions - and aside from them mangling the text timelone and mixing lines from different scenes up together it all sounds true to text to me.

Maybe THAT shows that when delivered well the elizabethan English is understandable to a modern English speaker's ear?

didds

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I watched this and King Lear with Hopkins and the language made the movies boring for me.

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english=shit.
Now or 400 years ago.
Melio parlar Interlingua.

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If this movie is a masterpiece then you can thank Shakespeare for coming up with the source material you dumbass lol

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Well, that's the challenge, fun and satisfaction of reading Shakespeare. It's not like reading a typical bestseller. And the play itself is beautifully written and imagined. I haven't seen this adaptation but the Polanki version is outstanding.

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This version kinda blows. Some good imagery and scenery. Some stuff is nicely shot, but almost every scene is played in a mumble monotone with low emotion and no nuance.

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I understand it just fine and love the wordplay, the poetry, the imagery, and the depth of Shakespeare's words; he's one of the nigh-unparalleled masters of the English language.

He's revisited and "rammed down throats" because (a) as long as mankind is still ensorcelled by love, revenge, pride, envy, honour, and kinship, we will find value in Shakespeare's poetic explorations of the primal; and (b) because his works are one of the major milestones in the development of culture, storytelling, literature, and language - so their study is still relevant to all who wish to learn about Western culture.

So, I disagree - about as fervently as possible.

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