No black people in Atlantis...


There were no black entrepreneurs in Atlantis.

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Is that surprising?....the film was made by uber right wing racists.

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That's not fair, fdog9. It could be as simple as black people being smart enough to not be cast in this film. It's hard enough for black actors to get good roles in Hollywood. I can't imagine many of them would want this film on their resume.



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That's a BS reason @gabby_bm, African-American actors have played questionable AmericanNazi loving blacks before. Sometimes, they weren't even the bad guys.

There were no African-American actors in this because they weren't asked, and they weren't asked because the makers are racists. Very few ReichWingers are not racist.

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I find automatically jumping into the accusation of racism to be lazy thinking. Did they not hold ANY auditions? Did they simply cast some of their biggest donors in the roles of the Atlantis occupants? If they were truly racist they likely would not have cast a black actor in the fairly prominent role of Eddie Willers.



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I find automatically jumping into the accusation of racism to be lazy thinking.


I find that it's usually the real racists who run around accusing others of such...

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National Socialism is about as "right-wing" as Philadelphia is "west-side".

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And Ashkenazi Jews are Nazis!!!

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I can't imagine anyone would want this film on their resume.....most people would want good films on their resume.

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Well, most people don't want McDonald's on their resume either but sometimes a person's gotta take what they can get! (not quite sure which would impress a potential employer more)



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Is that surprising?....the film was made by uber right wing racists.

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Not that surprising when you consider the racial makeup of the rich in reality... But we do live in a time where facts are racist according to professional victims.

Ethnic origins of Forbes world billionaires (2013)
The ethnic breakdown I come up with for the March 2013 update of Forbes' "The World's Billionaires" list:

No. %
Northwestern European 415 29.10
Asian or Pacific Islander 313 21.95
Jewish 249 17.46
Middle Eastern or Central Asian 120 8.42
Eastern European 95 6.66
Southern European 84 5.89
(New World) Hispanic or Brazilian 75 5.26
South Asian 69 4.84
Black 6 0.42
total 1426 100
http://racehist.blogspot.com/2013/04/ethnic-origins-of-forbes-world.html

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I have to wonder how many of these billionaires created their status and how many of them simply inherited it.



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Most of the top ten were self made. The Walton's obviously inherited.

It's a common myth propogated by the lazy and envious-- but if you read The Millionaire Next Door you will learn that most millionaires/billionaires today did not inherit their wealth.

Sam Walton was born to poor farmers in Oklahoma for example.

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Look closer - there were at least 2.

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There were blacks, presumably African/People'sStateofAmericans in the gulch scenes, and at the party.

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that's not racism on the movie makers' part - rand didn't write any into the original story.

making eddie willers a black guy is a huge stretch as it is.

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making eddie willers a black guy is a huge stretch as it is.


And there was definitely a part of me that applauded it as much as I was put off by it, as if it was to show "see? we're not racist!" That's the problem with perceived and assumed racism- even when you're not racist, it only serves to prove you're racist.



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i don't know if it's a race thing or a class thing or just something that wasn't really thought about much in pre-1960 fiction. i wouldn't have been upset with an all-white cast for these movies (at least not for the major roles). if they really wanted to show how cool they were, they'd have made one of the major brains a black guy, like wyatt or mulligan. instead they picked the one guy who's most subservient, which is probably not what they were aiming for.

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That's why I think Willers was black so it would be non-racist without being overtly "look at how not-racist we are!".



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and i think they botched even that. this whole trilogy has been an exercise in epic ineptitude!

not that i necessarily mind inept movies, after all i watched magical mystery tour over the weekend and enjoyed that immensely.๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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Let's all get up and dance to song that was a hit before your mother was born. Though she was born a long, long time ago, your mother should know... ๐ŸŽถ ๐Ÿ˜„

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sing it, baybee!

maybe that's what these atlas shrugged movies needed: more musical numbers!

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Clearly! You can make people overlook a lot of nonsense if you get them singing and tapping their feet to some good music. Rubber probably could have benefited from a few good tunes, too...or maybe a solid wall of music from beginning to end. ๐Ÿ˜œ

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You do know that Aglialoro floated the idea of making ASIII a musical, right?
http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/03/thedc-exclusive-producer-of-atlas-shrugged-movie-says-part-three-of-trilogy-could-be-a-musical/

So not only would you have had a three part "movie" with three casts and three directors, but just one of the parts would have been a musical.

I mean, this movie was entertainingly bad, but as a musical, it could have beens so much worse. What a missed opportunity!

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Musical or not, the film probably would have benefitted from the writing skills of Mad Magazine satirists.

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Oh! That would have been fabulous! I can picture it now...

"Atlas Shimmied: The Musical - featuring hits of the 80s!"

Dagny Taggert sings

Some boys kiss me, some boys hug me
I think they're O.K.
If they don't give me proper credit
I just walk away

They can beg and they can plead
But they can't see the light, that's right
'Cause the boy with the cold hard cash
Is always Mister Right, 'cause we are

Living in a material world
And I am a material girl
You know that we are living in a material world
And I am a material girl


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNSUOFgj97M

And

Where have all the good men gone
And where are all the gods?
Where's the street-wise Hercules
To fight the rising odds?
Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed?
Late at night I toss and I turn and I dream of what I need

I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night
He's gotta be strong
And he's gotta be fast
And he's gotta be fresh from the fight
I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the morning light
He's gotta be sure
And it's gotta be soon
And he's gotta be larger than life


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fpjuoKhfJo

Then there's Rearden's theme

The grabbing hands grab all they can
All for themselves - after all
The grabbing hands grab all they can
All for themselves - after all
It's a competitive world

Everything counts in large amounts


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t-gK-9EIq4

And if we change Who's That Girl to Who's John Galt and tweak the lyrics a bit (or a lot ๐Ÿ˜œ ), we've the movie's theme song! (Interestingly, in the video, Madonna's dressed kind of like John Galt. Coincidence? I think not!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfbmQYJEyKA

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Great choices, but the bad guys need some songs, too.

I imagine Cuffy Meigs (sorry, I just can't get enough of that name) singing
"Bad to the Bone" and maybe Jimmy Taggar" singing "I Put a Spell on You"
to Cherryl.

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Ah, yes, well done! We're so talented and creative - just like heroes from the pages of an Ayn Rand novel...well, except for the fact that I'm not blond. ๐Ÿ˜œ

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That, and you have a sense of humor.

Rand believe almost anyone could be a superman if they were good enough at what they did: businessman, engineer, scientist, author, philosopher, artist, musician, actor, ..um, pirate - anything but a comedian. In the end, her complete lack of a sense of humor wore me down more than her sophomoric philosophy.

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i don't know if there's enough music in the universe to help rubber - though i could just close my eyes and listen...and not miss anything!

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Everything's better with music! Hey, what if...it were a sing-a-long and the tire became the bouncing ball...?

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That's why Atlantis is perfection


I have no problem at all letting blacks all move to California and own it , govern it, feed themselves, farm, build, create all them self

The rest of us can as well

Let's see how far they'd get... It'd be gangland genocide while Atlantis survived

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