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Comparing this to the original (I recommend you see the Original first, or instead)


Honestly most of the film was pretty similar in tone and vibe to the original. The uncomfortable feeling throughout. I knew the big reveal from having seen the original, but I felt this movie was still pretty good at keeping the tension up.

In the last part, it turned into an American style action thriller, and the way they totally changed the ending because American studios will not make that ending for our audience. It's pretty disappointing, you just know they are not going to end this movie the way the Dutch/Danish film did.

So if you see this movie you will forget about it some years later, but you would not forget the original. It's such a gut punch that this pales in comparison.

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I liked the remake much more than the original. I had a huge problem with how the parents handled (or didn't handle) things at the end, including letting their daughter be taken away and having her tongue cut out. I do not care how passive anyone is, EVERYONE has a breaking point, especially if their child's life is at stake. There is no guarantee of winning, but just the fact that they actually permitted everything, without fighting back, including their child's fate and their own murders, to me, was absolutely ridiculous, totally absurd.

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I thought the remake was much more realistic. It was annoying throughout that they, like in the original, let themselves be taken advantage of repeatedly, but that was the storyline. However, when it became apparent that the hosts were murderers, at least they tried to fight for themselves and the children. I didn't know who would make it and was surprised that everyone did. I was just glad to see that they tried to fight for their lives, as I would do and as everyone else I've ever known in my whole life would do!

Also, I loved McAvoy's performance. As always, he doesn't disappoint, especially when playing a villain!

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James McAvoy was excellent in the role, I agree. In fact all the performances were pretty good.

I get it that we are expected to want the parents to go into "mama bear" or "protective dad" roles and fight the danger like we saw at the end of this US version of the film, but in real life situations it can be possible that people freeze up or are resigned to give up. Even in this film there was a moment where Ben (dad) is in the attic room and says in a cowardly way "I don't know what to do, I'm sorry". We are conditioned to be angry at this, because surely we would fight to save our family.

The thing about the original that stuck with me was this. Why did they just give up and not fight? Of course if I put myself in their place I would fight, right?

All the other families that came before this one, did they fight? They all lost?

Anyway, I did enjoy watching this film, and if I had not seen the brutally dark ending of the original - I probably would have liked this one a little more. The way the Danish boy (Ant) unleashed his violence on his captor at the end was more violent than what we'd see from a child in American movies, so I'll give them that props.

This wasn't a bad movie, glad you enjoyed it too. I just wish American remakes of foreign movies didn't shy away from the darkness of the originals. (see also the Danish 2018 movie The Guilty, and the US remake)

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I did say I was surprised that everyone made it. I thought Ben was not going to at one point and that would have been OK. Sad but OK. The point is that at least he tried to fight for his life and his family.

I think part of what's going on is that there are cultural differences between Americans and Danes and that is perhaps why the Danish family let themselves be murdered and their daughter be mutilated. Maybe Danish audiences would believe that. American audiences would never accept that because it's not the way most Americans would act. You're right in that some people freeze but not most and when there are kids involved it's even less likely. It's human nature to fight for one's life, especially your child's.

In terms of the other families, it's possible Ant communicated better to Agnes than other kids did which gave Agnes the opportunity to alert her parents. Perhaps the other families were truly in the dark until the very end when suddenly injected with the ketamine. I don't know. IMO that's a bit of a flaw. I could see a couple of families but not as many as they were supposed to have murdered.

Speaking of Ant and his violence at the end. Did you get the impression that maybe, just maybe, he was so traumatized that he was going to follow in Paddy's footsteps? He was crying in the car and yet his expression was strange. What was your impression?

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stop trying to recommend originals. nobody wants to read subtitles. that's why they watched this version to begin with. the original existed before but they didnt care.

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Sorry you have trouble reading

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apparently you do since you didnt address what i said. you just side stepped it and cried like a bitch. try forming an argument instead of going for a personal attack. do you know how stupid you look? try thinking about this, if the original is better than why didnt anyone care? does it have to do with subtitles?

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"nobody likes to read subtitles"

- implying 6 bilion people all over the world are all americans like he is

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they do it because they have to, not because they want to. if you're in some small shit hole country like france, how many movies are you gonna get to watch in french only? stop being delusional.

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right every country in the world is a shithole compred to your all mighty wonderful USA,

lol, typical american redneck trump supporter who is also xenophobic and call other countries shit. just fucking lol

you do realize you trailer trash that the ENTIRE WORLD read subtitles when watching holywood movies right?

so you just called the entire world shitholes when you are a dumb american who live in the only country that dosent read subtitles.

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literally read what i said again.

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Still mad about this? learn to read and you will be able to enjoy some other movies. Good luck.

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who says im mad? i'm telling you to stop trying to make non american movies happen, we don't give two shits about it. you watch our movies, we don't watch yours. that's why you're literally on an american movie website right now. it sounds to me you're the mad one for getting shut down about originals.

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typical xenophobic american trash, nobody is allowed to make movies other then dirty americans right? is that what your saying? "stop trying to make movies" why dont you stop trying to insult other people from other countries and their cinema instead? why dont you just watch your retarded american popcorn movies with shitty stories aimed for ugly disgusting rednecks such as yourself?

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this has nothing to do with xenophobia. im saying americans are better than you and you know it. you tried to insult me with the reading thing but fact is americans couldnt give two shits about foreign movies. i know you hate reading subtitles too but you're in denial about it because you basically have no choice. why would anyone want to look at the bottom of the screen away from the actual movie? i find it hilarious how many of you idiot try so hard to convince me that it's just as good as actually understanding what the actors say directly. no it's not. you can't understand subtlety of tone in a foreign language. that's impossible. ever watch jackie chan movies where he emphasize all the wrong syllables? that's the same shit as watching a movie in a foreign language. stop lying, it's annoying.

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again, you are speaking from the prespective of an ignorant american redneck. i've read subtitles all my life, and even when i understand english perfectly well i still prefer having the subtitles in engllish because sometimes the sound isnt clear enough. you dont need to look at the bottom because the subtitles arnt at the bottom like you say, it a little bit below the middle of the screen and i can read it perfectly well as well as the ENTIRE WORLD.

you are so entitled with your little superiority complex regarding your USA that you litterly come off as a xenophobic ignorant racist and thats what you are. americans are better then me? lol, americans like you right? ignorant rednecks with inferiority/superiority complex right? its not me who insult other people based on their countries, its you.

btw, americans do read subtitles when they watch either foreign films, or anime. so, i know that YOU wont watch it because you are too ignorant and probably in the swamps of missisipi where you from people dont know how to read. but some people do know how to read and they dont care reading subtittles.

just because you are such a worthless loser who dont know how to read subtitles does not mean other people are like that. remember. the ENTIRE world know 2 languages. their home language and english. some even know 3 or 4 or more. its only YOU americans and the rest of the anglo sphere who know only their native language and even dare to insult other people. lol.

btw the original movie is much better. it has nothing to do with subtitles, it has anything to do with american prudoctions having no balls to make horror movies actual horror and not some flick where the good guys win at the end every single time

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I just saw the remake and was wondering about this. If you see the remake first (and have no idea about the original) the ending will be so shocking that it may even be more jolting. If you see the original first (and have no idea about the remake) you will have a higher level of tension throughout because you are expecting the ending of the original.

I thought the remake was much better than it was going to be and I liked the ending, but I don't believe any ending can top the original.

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