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Ratings are dropping!

posted 8 years ago by ScaryMary123
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Once again, the Goldbergs has dropped in the ratings in their new time slot, to below a 2. That's not as good as The Middle's ratings last year, when they were in the same time slot/same day.

The Wednesday night line-up for ABC isn't doing well overall, except for Modern Family--which is the only one to break a 2 and above. Black-ish is also suffering. They never should've moved The Middle to Tuesdays--it'll also fail, and ABC will have a big mess on their hands.

[–] osaji922 8 years ago

Relax. Ratings have been down everywhere on the networks. The Middle staying on Wednesday would not have helped that. Modern Family got a 2.3 showing its age. I think that's where it ended last season and now it got that in its second episode this season.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

A 2.3 is better than a 1.8, which is what The Goldbergs got, and they're only in the fourth season--unlike Modern Family, which is twice as old.

[–] osaji922 8 years ago

Actually Goldbergs got a 1.9

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Whatever.Anytime a show goes below a 2.0, it's dangerous. The Middle did much better in its 7th season--and the same time slot and day--last year. The Goldbergs shouldn't be running out of steam in only their 4th.

[–] osaji922 8 years ago

It's all relative. Look around at the ratings on the networks. They're all down. I really don't think keeping The Middle in the same slot would have changed anything at all.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Maybe. But maybe not. We can only go by the record, and during its fourth season, The Middle was doing much better than The Goldbergs in that time slot and on that day.

The Goldbergs definitely benefited from The Middle's lead-in and actually built on it last season. That's why I think ABC felt they could anchor the night by themselves, and it's just not working. When you start out with a 2.0, it's usually downhill from there. When The Goldbergs gets close to a 1.0, either ABC will move it or cancel it.

As for The Middle on Tuesday nights, that's a death slot--up against the top-rated show on TV, NCIS. I'm afraid the Hecks will find themselves foreclosed upon before the season is over.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

A 1.87 this week! Why are the ratings dropping? I thought this show had a rabid following known as "Goldnerds?"

[–] SkiBumTim 8 years ago

Calm down. I'm not going to worry until the ratings bear over at Zap2it says it's on a bubble.

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

You mean "tvbythenumbers?" Yeah, I check there. When they do happen to be wrong, I think it tends to be when they should have been right (and the network was wrong). For example, it was predicted/expected that "Growing Up Fisher" would get renewed but it wasn't. "About A Boy" was, but then tanked the next season. My theory is that most people kept the TV on during 'Boy' while waiting for 'Fisher' and then the next season, since 'Fisher' was gone, there was no incentive to keep the station on during 'Boy.'

[–] SkiBumTim 8 years ago

Actually I do mean Zap2it because they are Zap2it.com They are divided into two parts. A TV Listings part and TV Ratings. I've been following their cancellation bear since 2009. It use to drive me crazy when shows just disappeared and I didn't see it coming. Love the concept of the cancellation bear. You don't have to be the show with the most viewers on tv, you just have to be best performing show in your time slot. i.e. You don't have to outrun the bear, you just have to run faster than the others in your group that is running from the bear. The Goldbergs have 4 out 5 bears right now and is classified as likely to be renewed.

The bear hasn't been performing as well as he use to. I've seen him get over 90% before though. Here's a link to last year's end of the season performance for the bear before he went into hibernation. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/05/20/renewcancel-predictions-wrap-for-2015-16-the-bear-goes-into-hibernation/

And here's a link to their announcement of the bear coming out if hibernation and a explanation of how they'll be doing things a little different this season.http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/09/17/the-bear-awakens-welcome-to-a-new-season-and-a-new-renewcancel-index/

They keep getting better and better data for the bear's analyses though. Like a couple years ago they started looking at a programs production costs. I remember them predicting the cancellation of Law & Order LA even though it had fair numbers but was too expensive to produce.

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

SkiBumTim (Fri Oct 7 2016 04:13:03)
Actually I do mean Zap2it because they are Zap2it.com They are divided into two parts. A TV Listings part and TV Ratings. I've been following their cancellation bear since 2009. It use to drive me crazy when shows just disappeared and I didn't see it coming. Love the concept of the cancellation bear. You don't have to be the show with the most viewers on tv, you just have to be best performing show in your time slot. i.e. You don't have to outrun the bear, you just have to run faster than the others in your group that is running from the bear. The Goldbergs have 4 out 5 bears right now and is classified as likely to be renewed.

Trust me, I've been making use of that site quite a bit myself. When they are "wrong," at times I believe that they were right about what the outcome *SHOULD* have been. Unfortunately, they have no control over it. Add in the idiocy of some of the NBC execs, and there is your "room for error." More so when it comes to NBC.

[–] speedy1383 8 years ago

TV Grim Reaper is better than the Cancel Bear. Reaper used to be the Cancel Bear until he ventured out last yr. You can definitely tell the difference.

[–] ydobon-1 8 years ago

The Goldbergs definitely benefited from The Middle's lead-in and actually built on it last season. That's why I think ABC felt they could anchor the night by themselves, and it's just not working.

To a TV network, a show has only one purpose; To beat whatever is on the other channels.

Think of TV shows as fighting robots. If one is doing well, you throw it up against other popular opponents and hope it wins. If it loses, you throw it in the trash and get another one.

That's all the shows are to them, a way to beat the other channels. Any show that can't do that is useless to them. Network execs don't give a damn about the shows themselves. To them, all the shows are 100% interchangeable and they have absolutely no clue why one show succeeds on a given night and why others fails. They may say that they love a particular show or that they're committed to it, but they care as much about a low-rated show as you do about the roll of toilet paper in your bathroom.

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[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

That's very true. Thanks for your insight! Do you miss Phyllot?

[–] ydobon-1 8 years ago

Do you miss Phyllot?

Yeah, like I miss the fluid in my knees.

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[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Yeah, like I miss the fluid in my knees.

Haha! This made me laugh out loud! 😁

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

ScaryMary123 (Mon Oct 17 2016 12:05:18)
Yeah, like I miss the fluid in my knees.

Haha! This made me laugh out loud! 😁

You should stop posting back and forth to yourself, it's pathetic.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

What ARE you talking about?

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

ScaryMary123 (Mon Oct 17 2016 14:20:09)
What ARE you talking about?

Playing dumb won't work. You made it entirely too obvious.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Sorry, but you're very much mistaken. If you think that guy is one of my "socks," he's been on IMDB for 8 years!

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

ScaryMary123 (Mon Oct 17 2016 15:47:36)
Sorry, but you're very much mistaken. If you think that guy is one of my "socks," he's been on IMDB for 8 years!

So then, you're one of his "socks." Either way, same person. Good going on telling on yourself. Now stop being pathetic. Seriously, stop.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

ScaryMary123 (Mon Oct 17 2016 15:47:36)
Sorry, but you're very much mistaken. If you think that guy is one of my "socks," he's been on IMDB for 8 years!So then, you're one of his "socks." Either way, same person. Good going on telling on yourself. Now stop being pathetic. Seriously, stop.

You're so wrong, it's truly laughable. But keep dreamin' your dream! Haha, you big "troll destroyer," you! 😘

[–] Bookmanmovielover 8 years ago

Playing dumb won't work. You made it entirely too obvious

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[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Thanks for the thumbs-up, KrazyKatgirl. I mean, haha, "Bookman."

[–] straw_hat_boy_luffy 8 years ago

Ratings are dropping for every show. The Middle probably would be lower in the slot. Ratings were higher for every show 4 years ago. And dropping below 2.0 isn't that bad anymore. Most shows on network TV are not above 2.0. Those that are that high are huge hits by today. MF is over 2.0 but it used to be huge. Every returning show is down. Even Empire is in the low 3.0's which a few seasons back was only a modest hit. But today it's huge. Let's be real, anything over 1.0 now is good. Everything is relative. It's all about how you are doing relative to other shows on your network. If every show is down, then it doesn't really matter. ABC isn't going to cancel everything. Considering no new comedies are smash hits, there is no cause for concern.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Of course it matters if they go below a 2--especially if the show in question (The Goldbergs) was once doing so much better than the show it replaced (The Middle). But even The Middle was doing better last year in the same day and time slot than the Goldbergs is doing now. Strikes me that ABC should've left well enough alone and not putzed with the Wednesday night schedule.

Instead of elevating Wednesday night as an anchor show, The Goldbergs is actually dragging the lineup down. The facts are pretty obvious there.

And look what they've done with The Middle! Saddled it with a night of crappy sitcoms like "The Real O'Neals," which should've been cancelled last season. I predict a flop for the show following The Middle as well as the O'Neals. Not sure where Off The Boat will sit, but it's also pretty terrible and not exactly a ratings bonanza. Putting The Middle on opposite the #1 show in the nation--NCIS--is suicide.

[–] straw_hat_boy_luffy 8 years ago

They wanted to sure up a new night of comedy. Every show was doing better last year. The Middle would be doing equally as poorly in the slot but will do better on Tuesday than their old lineup. They spread their talent around which is smart.

No, it doesn't matter if a show dips under 2.0. This is a fact. Every show is trending that way. The ratings are down across network TV. The bar for being a hit is lower as every show is falling. Shows can get renewed now performing in the low 1.0's. ABC made the right move because now they will potentially have 2 nights of comedies doing reasonably well by 2016 standards. The Middle moving can help launch a second night while The Goldbergs is going essentially the same as what The Middle would have done. Yes, it's lower as is every show. I don't think any show on network TV us up from last year. You are looking at ratings as if it were 5 years ago. It's not. The Wednesday comedy block is one of ABC's best assets and if they even have moderate success on Tuesday, it's an improvement.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

he Middle moving can help launch a second night while The Goldbergs is going essentially the same as what The Middle would have done. Yes, it's lower as is every show. I don't think any show on network TV us up from last year. You are looking at ratings as if it were 5 years ago. It's not. The Wednesday comedy block is one of ABC's best assets and if they even have moderate success on Tuesday, it's an improvement.

Hello, I was looking at LAST year's ratings, not five years ago. Last year, The Middle was doing much better in that time slot and day than The Goldbergs are doing now. You claim, "well, everybody is down, so what?" The entire reason for moving The Middle was because The Goldbergs was doing BETTER than The Middle, and ABC felt it could anchor Wednesday better. Well, it isn't anchoring Wednesday better, any way you spin it. The ratings are DOWN. Doesn't matter why. They're still down. In fact, they're reaching the point where The Goldbergs had been in their first season, and that's not good.

Moving The Middle to Tuesday is a boneheaded move. ABC thinks it can shore up their sagging Tuesday night schedule, but not even The Muppets could do that--and Disney owns ABC AND the Muppets. If The Middle does worse on Tuesdays than it did on Wednesday--and there's every indication that it will, given that it's up against the #1 show on broadcast TV (NCIS), then how is this going to "lift up" the rest of the Tuesday schedule, which is made up of a brand-new untested sitcom, a moderate hit (Fresh off the Boat), and one struggling in the ratings (The Real O'Neals)? It won't, and the entire schedule will crumble.

Mark my words, it'll happen. Then we'll talk.

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

ScaryMary123 (Thu Oct 6 2016 18:23:06)
Mark my words, it'll happen. Then we'll talk.

Until it does, will you be gone and quiet? Please? 😁

[–] straw_hat_boy_luffy 8 years ago

That wasn't why they moved The Middle. They moved The Middle because Tuesday needed help. They also felt they can help 2 new comedies with veteran lead ins instead of putting them alone. It worked so fad to help Speechless launch well.

The Middle did better last year, yes. But 100% it would be doing the same as The Goldbergs had ABC done nothing. The ratings decline would have happened anyway. So no, it wasn't a boneheaded move. It was a big picture move. You are looking at a very narrow scope. Last year was last year. Every show is down which means these declines would have happened no matter what. ABC is getting more mileage out of these is all. They made the best of their assets. You seem to be set on hating the decision but you arent paying attention to trends. The Middle and The Goldbergs are performing as they would have no matter what.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

The Middle did better last year, yes. But 100% it would be doing the same as The Goldbergs had ABC done nothing. The ratings decline would have happened anyway. So no, it wasn't a boneheaded move. It was a big picture move.

How do you know if "100%" it would be doing the same as the Goldbergs. That's mere speculation on your part. You can assume, true, but it's all speculative.

And yes, ABC moved the Middle to help Tuesdays, but they only did that when The Goldberg's looked to be a break out hit on Wednesday nights. The Goldbergs had much better ratings than The Middle, so their move to Wednesday, with The Middle as a lead-in, helped them. THAT'S why The Middle was finally moved, because now ABC had a comedy (The Goldbergs) that could anchor the night. And guess what, it's not anchoring the night.

And yes, it's a boneheaded move because The Middle WON'T anchor Tuesday night, either. The show directly following--about the housewife (name escapes me)--will flop. So will The Real O'Neals. And Fresh Off the Boat has been floundering for quite some time.

So, what will ABC have in the end? A faltering Tuesday and a faltering Wednesday. At least if they'd left The Middle where it was, the ratings MORE THAN LIKELY (based upon previous years) would've stayed healthy. As it it, ratings are going down.

[–] straw_hat_boy_luffy 8 years ago

Just like you can't know 100% that these numbers wouldn't be the exact same had they left it. Given that almost every returning show is down, the evidence suggests the drop would happen either way. Wednesday is not faltering. It's one of the most stable nights on the network. Yes, it's down, but so is their entire lineup of returning shows. You can secular that it would be exactly the same as last year if they didn't move it but that's your speculation, not fact. Networks need to nourish new hits, not keep all their hits clustered until they fizzle out. The threshold for being a hit goes down every year. By 2016 numbers, Speechless is a win. By 2016 numbers, their Wednesday lineup is solid. 2016 numbers are not 2015 numbers. You may not like the decision but it was the smartest decision they could make to secure their future. I think they waited too long to move The Middle. The network is facing too many of their shows getting old without good replacements. Networks have to risk moves or else they die. The Middle was already beginning to flounder by the spring. The Goldbergs usually improved on the demo. I think they might've actually been lower had they not moved it. But yes, both of us are just speculating. You included.

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

It's pointless to try to get through to Dude (aka ScaryMary). You'll just continue to get responses akin to "the sky is falling, the sky is falling!"

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

The sky isn't falling, last time I checked. But the ratings for The Goldbergs are.

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

ScaryMary123 » 1 minute ago (Fri Oct 7 2016 21:17:00)
IMDb member since August 2016
The sky isn't falling, last time I checked. But the ratings for The Goldbergs are.

It's an idiom. It's similar to using the phrase, "The boy who cried wolf" when someone keeps reporting something that isn't happening. By constantly worrying over the ratings of the show with blinders on, you are essentially yelling that the sky is falling. If you focus solely on the numbers without taking other things into consideration, you're going to do foolish things like start discussions about the ratings dropping.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

I know what an idiom is. Henny Penny THOUGHT the sky was falling. The ratings for the Goldbergs ARE falling. Big difference. Nobody's imagining it, dude.

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

ScaryMary123 (Fri Oct 7 2016 22:59:38)
I know what an idiom is. Henny Penny THOUGHT the sky was falling. The ratings for the Goldbergs ARE falling. Big difference. Nobody's imagining it, dude.

Your fussing over the ratings is because of supposed concern that the show will wind up being canceled.

"THE SKY(SHOW) IS FALLING(BEING CANCELED)!!!"

Relax Dude, stop being paranoid.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Your fussing over the ratings is because of supposed concern that the show will wind up being canceled.

I never said I thought the show was going to be cancelled. Find where I said that, and I'll eat my words. I said The Goldbergs isn't anchoring Wednesday nights like it should be. Its ratings are down. Never once did I say ANYTHING about cancellation. If you're going to use Henny Penny as an example, at least be accurate and not make stuff up. Come on, dude.

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

ScaryMary123 (Sat Oct 8 2016 16:31:16)
I never said I thought the show was going to be cancelled. Find where I said that, and I'll eat my words. I said The Goldbergs isn't anchoring Wednesday nights like it should be. Its ratings are down. Never once did I say ANYTHING about cancellation. If you're going to use Henny Penny as an example, at least be accurate and not make stuff up. Come on, dude.

You may not have said it in those words, but the way you respond with 'worry' over the ratings delivers the same message. If you weren't worried about the show being canceled, then you wouldn't be so concerned with the ratings being lower, despite it being across the board and not just with the one show.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

All speculation on your part. I worry about The Goldbergs dragging down the Wednesday lineup, and I worry about The Middle being moved to accommodate The Goldbergs...and that's it. Never said a WORD about cancellation. Nope, never did. Dude.

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

You're either back peddling, or you're outing yourself as a troll. Either way, you're done.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Again with the speculating. Anyway, let's hope The Goldberg's ratings don't continue to drop!

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

ScaryMary123 (Sat Oct 8 2016 20:51:10)
Again with the speculating. Anyway, let's hope The Goldberg's ratings don't continue to drop!

Dude, give it up already. You kept going on in a panic like someone who is paranoid about it being canceled. If you're not concerned with the show itself, then you're just being a troll here.

You've had plenty of opportunities to respond back to people apologizing for overreacting and such, but you haven't done so. So, if you're not a troll, then you have a problem with admitting when you are wrong about something. You got called out, just accept it instead of making yourself look more pathetic.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong, but I'm NOT wrong. The ratings are dropping, and that's cause for concern.

You've attempted to "call me out," but it just isn't working. I feel your frustration, however (haha!). My original point stands, whether you like it or not. The facts simply speak for themselves.

Seems to me that you don't like it when people don't give "in" to your opinion. Well, dude, I guess that's just too bad. You can start with the name-calling, the demands for an apology, whatever--it isn't going to change the situation at all. So, why don't YOU give it up? You're getting nowhere.

Let's see if the ratings continue to fall and what happens next, shall we?

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

ScaryMary123 (Sun Oct 9 2016 06:36:46)
I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong, but I'm NOT wrong. The ratings are dropping, and that's cause for concern.

You've attempted to "call me out," but it just isn't working. I feel your frustration, however (haha!). My original point stands, whether you like it or not. The facts simply speak for themselves.

Seems to me that you don't like it when people don't give "in" to your opinion. Well, dude, I guess that's just too bad. You can start with the name-calling, the demands for an apology, whatever--it isn't going to change the situation at all. So, why don't YOU give it up? You're getting nowhere.

Let's see if the ratings continue to fall and what happens next, shall we?

I sense much arrogance and stubbornness in you, Dude.

"The ratings are dropping, the ratings are dropping!"
Why be concern with the ratings? Because it can result in the show being canceled.

"The sky is falling, the sky is falling!"
Why be concerned with the sky falling? Because it could mean the end of the world.

No matter what you say, you are being just like chicken little. But oh wait, you already basically said that you're not worried about this show itself.

ScaryMary123 (Sat Oct 8 2016 18:02:53)
All speculation on your part. I worry about The Goldbergs dragging down the Wednesday lineup, and I worry about The Middle being moved to accommodate The Goldbergs...and that's it. Never said a WORD about cancellation. Nope, never did. Dude.

So that means you're not worried about the show, which means you're just being a troll.

The problems with trolls, and something that outs trolls, is that they will say something and then try to explain it away as though others misunderstood what was said. They will practically try to rewrite definitions of words in order to come off looking flawless and as though everyone else has problems. Watch, you're going to deny just how perfectly "the ratings are dropping" matches up with "the sky is falling" and you'll also try to spin your not caring about the show to you caring about it.

You know very well that I'm not stupid, so stop trying to act like I am.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Hey, this is my thread. You're invading it with your speculative nonsense and your long-winded "explanations." The ratings for The Goldbergs are falling, point of fact. They're not anchoring the ABC line-up on Wednesdays as well as The Middle did just a year ago. Again, point of fact.

Yet, you can go on and on and ON, hoping to trip me up. Not gonna happen, DUDE. But keep trying!

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

ScaryMary123 (Sun Oct 9 2016 16:36:40)
Hey, this is my thread. You're invading it with your speculative nonsense and your long-winded "explanations." The ratings for The Goldbergs are falling, point of fact. They're not anchoring the ABC line-up on Wednesdays as well as The Middle did just a year ago. Again, point of fact.

Yet, you can go on and on and ON, hoping to trip me up. Not gonna happen, DUDE. But keep trying!

You've already tripped yourself up, multiple times. One being in your very response that it quoted in this post. You lost already, you just are too far in your own fantasy world to realize it.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Well, I know what I know...and I know you were beaten with your first nasty comment.

Gee, wonder if The Goldbergs will continue to fall in the ratings! Hope not! 😘

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

ScaryMary123 (Sun Oct 9 2016 21:32:27)
Well, I know what I know...and I know you were beaten with your first nasty comment.

Gee, wonder if The Goldbergs will continue to fall in the ratings! Hope not! 😘

That's like saying that you know the Earth is flat, despite proof to the contrary. You only THINK you know when you believe something that is incorrect.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

You mean, like you only THINK I said the Goldberg's is going to be cancelled?

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

ScaryMary123 (Mon Oct 10 2016 07:09:57)
You mean, like you only THINK I said the Goldberg's is going to be cancelled?

Unlike you, I acknowledge when someone else is correct. I already said that you didn't say it in those words. However, you still have not acknowledged the fact that you are essentially talking about the sky falling. Others have noticed it as well, so your continuing to deny it doesn't help you at all.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

I'm not talking about the "sky falling," I'm talking about the Goldberg's ratings falling. And the very real threat that The Middle's ratings will more than likely fall, too. Why is that so difficult for you to understand?

Comprehension, dude. That's what it's all about. Comprehension.

[–] Bookmanmovielover 8 years ago

Unlike you, I acknowledge when someone else is correct. I already said that you didn't say it in those words. However, you still have not acknowledged the fact that you are essentially talking about the sky falling. Others have noticed it as well, so your continuing to deny it doesn't help you at all.

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<“Every man of courage is a man of his word.” - Pierre Corneille>

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Others have noticed it as well, so your continuing to deny it doesn't help you at all.

"Others have noticed it, as well?" Better watch out if one of those "others" includes Bookmanmovielover. He'll get you kicked off IMDB, just like he got his buddy Phyllot kicked off. Just some fair warning.

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[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

ScaryMary123 (Mon Oct 10 2016 17:37:27)
"Others have noticed it, as well?" Better watch out if one of those "others" includes Bookmanmovielover. He'll get you kicked off IMDB, just like he got his buddy Phyllot kicked off. Just some fair warning.

You're assuming that it's only one person and you're also assuming you know who it is. Others have noticed and you are blind to it.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Noticed what? That I make a point and stick by it? Wow. Yeah, I'll admit to that. And since no one knows me on this board (including you), I have little interest in what people like Bookman say about me. But I will tell you this: ally yourself with him, and you'll have your account deleted. Take it from me, it happened to the #1 poster on this board, Phyllot. He's history, and it's all because he listened to Bookman. Want a convincer? Go over to The Middle board and read, "This board sure is dead since..." A real eye-opener.

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

ScaryMary123 (Mon Oct 10 2016 20:04:42)
Noticed what? That I make a point and stick by it?

No, that others agree with my comparison of you. Since it's practically screaming at anyone who reads this discussion, that means that you are simply a troll. Also, as I mentioned to you before, you've interacted with me before, under a different name. So you know full well that I'm capable of easily defeating trolls, including you. So if you're smart, you'll quit now, while you might still have some sort of 'dignity' left.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

I don't know what you're talking about. I've only been on the IMDB for a month. Call me a troll if you want, I don't care. It's apparent to me that you resort to name-calling when people don't give in to your argument--an argument YOU started, by the way. Well, sorry, but my point about the ratings is clear, and I'm not backing away from it.

Frankly, I'd think you'd be able to "win" on logic, not name-calling. But hey, I'm not you.

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

ScaryMary123 (Mon Oct 10 2016 20:36:04)
I don't know what you're talking about. I've only been on the IMDB for a month. Call me a troll if you want, I don't care. It's apparent to me that you resort to name-calling when people don't give in to your argument--an argument YOU started, by the way. Well, sorry, but my point about the ratings is clear, and I'm not backing away from it.

Frankly, I'd think you'd be able to "win" on logic, not name-calling. But hey, I'm not you.

I already won with logic, but to a troll like you, logic doesn't mean anything. It's not name calling, it's honesty.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Well, I'll be honest with you. I don't care. How's that?

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

You can claim to not care all you want. The reality is, you do care. Also, anytime you reply to any discussion, the first thing to comes to mind is you being like "The sky is falling, the sky is falling!"

[–] Jeannette_Mary_Labbe 8 years ago

If Scary Mary has been here only a month then it will really rain cats & dogs. Everyone across the boards know of a certain someone hiding behind multiple accounts. It's so Labbe I mean Lame, no that's lame.

Fangs, I've seen this loud mouth troll appear on The Middle board out of no where and start attacking other users who said they were moms and were just talking about The Middle tv show like so many other users do. Scary Mary comes in with his friend I mean sock accounts and they all gang up on these new users to this board. This was the same thing that happened with other accounts that have now vanish cough cough I mean been suspended. So go on and pretend you have been here for just a month. Just don't step on a poodle next time you go outside. Some users may be afraid of your nonstop trolling but I'm not, Fangs here has seen behind your lies and so have many others.

Look at what this is. It's a tattle tale. Aw! Sad the only one who is responding to your crazy posts in this thread is WHY OH YOU. YOU.

Bookman's managed to worm his way over to The Goldbergs board, where he's "private messaging" people about his old nemesis (whom he suspects has returned), but he doesn't have the cajones to openly confront the suspected individual openly.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1442464/board/nest/260029081?p=5

If you have been here a month then how do you anything about this? Oh you just wormed your way online to The Middle board and just happened to have so much hate inside you for someone online that you never even heard of??? That makes sense. lol Hold on let me check? Nope, it's still not raining cats & dogs.

What was your very first post on The Middle board? Oh it was a post about Phyllot?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1442464/board/nest/260726757?p=1

Sure, Labbe. You've been here a month. Keep kidding yourself. You claim that Phyllot who you had never spoken to in your life (lie) doesn't have the guts to say he is back, but you just make brand new accounts, hide behind them and continue to attack people. It takes a bigger person to be quiet and walk away. Any fool can call someone names. Take a look in a mirror some time.

So keep up your sad little life posting daily about user Bookman, replying then to yourself as Gubbio. One look at that thread tells everyone who sees it who the real troll is. Just look at the history of Bookman, Gubbio & yours. Which is is daily insulting people and breaking the rules of IMDB? One hint, look in the mirror. Ask yourself why you have to keep making new accounts because yours is suspend? You make such a loud blab about Phyllot's being suspended when you forget to say yours was too!

You get so butt hurt about Bookman messaging people privately. If only you knew what else is going back and forth privately. No, it wasn't Bookman who started this system. It makes what Bookman has done seem like nothing. Serious active users here support each other.

I gotta go clean myself. This jerks lies are disgusting and dirty.

"Sometimes life hands you lemons that are worth 2 in the bush, I like kittens."

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

KrazyKatgrl (Tue Oct 11 2016 12:36:01)
Some users may be afraid of your nonstop trolling

Don't get why anyone would be scared of this troll. I've dealt with other trolls who are enough of a threat to scare a fly, which is much more than ScaryMary can do.

The problem with trolls is that they don't know how to keep from outing themselves as trolls. If they did, they would actually be much more successful. ScaryMary outed himself as a troll, just like all others do, and will now how to focus more on trying to deny it as well as fighting it, that his effectiveness as a troll has pretty much already come to an end.

Now it's just a matter of playing with the troll like a cat plays with a ball of yarn. Of course, he'll deny it all, in hopes that we'll back down. But when we don't, his fears of being defeated will be realized and he'll have to go make a new account to try to troll people yet again.

So sad, I actually feel pity for the pathetic creature.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Keep dreamin', "troll destroyer!" Haha! 😘

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

ScaryMary123 (Thu Oct 13 2016 10:32:19)
Keep dreamin', "troll destroyer!" Haha! 😘

Well at least you're now admitting to being a troll.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

I'm not admitting to anything, outside of being an observer and watcher of The Goldbergs. Call me a troll, if you want. Maybe that makes you feel like a man, "troll destroyer!"

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

ScaryMary123 (Thu Oct 13 2016 12:16:24)
I'm not admitting to anything, outside of being an observer and watcher of The Goldbergs. Call me a troll, if you want. Maybe that makes you feel like a man, "troll destroyer!"

I know it's hard for you to comprehend, but the reality is, you did admit to it. Go ahead and continue to deny it, but you did admit to it, even if that wasn't your intention. You're done here, just now it's waiting to see how before you realize it for yourself. So now, your trollings will be amusement for others, which is obviously what you don't want. Have a day! :)

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

I'm "done" here? Haha! You don't control this place. It's an open forum for discussion, troll destroyer.

I thought you were big and bad! Guess not.

Oh, and by the way, the Goldberg's ratings are stable, right now.

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

ScaryMary123 (Thu Oct 13 2016 12:51:39)
I'm "done" here? Haha! You don't control this place. It's an open forum for discussion, troll destroyer.

Where did I say that I control this place? When others see your latest responses to this discussion, they will see that you've confirmed yourself to be a troll and thus you will be ineffective as a troll. Pure and simple. So like I said, you're done here.

[–] Jeannette_Mary_Labbe 8 years ago

Scary Mary is self destructing himself by posting some of my posts from here on The Middle claiming I'm Bookman because he thinks only one user in all of IMDB land can stand up to him. He also did it on the Judge Judy board according to Bookman.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115227/board/nest/261987561

Can you believe it? He is telling IMDB who he is willingly. He is done and did it all himself. It looks like IMDB deleted the thread devoted Bookman on The Middle board or the OP Gubbio/Scary Mary/Heatonfan/Billybat/Menotherapy willingly deleted it. Looks like IMDB is going to be the place it meant to be after all. If it was IMDB who deleted that thread then it won't be long till Rod has to make year another new account.

When I met this troll he was doing the same thing to Bookman. It was easy to detect who was the troll and who was the one being attacked. I know others see through this mess. He thinks he fools everyone but he doesn't.

Have you found any of your posts copied anywhere yet, Fangs?

You know what Scary Mary/Gubbio/Heatonfan/Billybat/Menotherapy I'm not going sink to your low level and post on The Middle board or here that "It sure is quiet with out *****" here" just to beg for some more attention.

"Sometimes life hands you lemons that are worth 2 in the bush, I like kittens."

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

KrazyKatgrl (Thu Oct 13 2016 16:05:31)
Can you believe it? He is telling IMDB who he is willingly. He is done and did it all himself.

What I find funny is that he doesn't realize he's doing it.

KrazyKatgrl (Thu Oct 13 2016 16:05:31)
Have you found any of your posts copied anywhere yet, Fangs?

Haven't bothered to look.

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[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Just don't step on a poodle next time you go outside.

Ok. I'll make sure to avoid all poodles. Thanks for the heads-up, Bookman. I mean, KrazyKatgrl! 😘

I gotta go clean my shorts. This jerks lies are disgusting and dirty, and I soiled myself.

Good to know you practice good hygiene, Bookman! I mean, KrazyKatgrl!

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

Dude, are you reading the replies with blinders/filters on? Akin to Beverly's "Mom Goggles" except yours filters out the comments to help you calm down. If EVERY network is experiencing a drop on ALL (or nearly all) of their shows, then singling out one show to worry about is kind of a moot point. So long as it's doing as well (or better) in relative ratings (ie, converting the ratings from last season to this season, to put things into proper perspective), then that's what matters.

Considering that online services such as Amazon, Netflix and Hulu are offering their own shows now, with some of their shows being renewed onto existing cable networks (Netflix's "Dark Matter" second season aired on the Sci-Fy network, for example), it's bound to take its toll. With so many networks with their own original content being offered now, the static values are going to go down. If things were done in balanced relative percentage values, which would essentially be more meaningless to people than the numbers offered now, I'm sure many of the shows would be pulling roughly the same numbers as last season.

So in a word dude, relax.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Don't call me "dude."

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

ScaryMary123 (Thu Oct 6 2016 21:22:36)
Don't call me "dude."

Oh sorry dude, didn't know that would cause the sky (or ratings) to fall.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Huh?

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

Here dude:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henny_Penny

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Don't call me "dude."

[–] FangsMcWolf 8 years ago

ScaryMary123 (Fri Oct 7 2016 07:36:54)
Don't call me "dude."

Oh sorry dude, didn't know calling you dude would cause the sky (or ratings) to fall.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Snore...😴

[–] bellaboo621 8 years ago

Everything appears to be down this year. NCIS, Empire, etc are pulling lower. Even the NFL is down. Too soon to start writing obituaries.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Nobody's writing an "obituary." Sheesh, didn't you even read the thread? I said the ratings were going down, they're worse than The Middle's from last year in the same time slot/day, and this doesn't bode well. I didn't say it was going to be cancelled. Boy, some people really jump to conclusions.

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[–] Jeannette_Mary_Labbe 8 years ago

This dude wrote the same obit on The Middle too. My question is WHO CARES?

"Sometimes life hands you lemons that are worth 2 in the bush, I like kittens."

[–] Gordon_Gartrelle 8 years ago

Seriously, Networks need to start counting other types of viewing.

I'm an adult, with older non driving kids and have $hit to do.

I love the Goldbergs. My husband and I will catch it on the weekend.

Honestly I don't even bother watching Scandal or HTGAWM while the kids are awake, so that is watched at another time.

I don't let anyone hot-comb out my HAIRitage!

[–] Bookmanmovielover 8 years ago

Seriously, Networks need to start counting other types of viewing.

I agree. I watch more shows streaming than I use to. I like to be able to catch the shows when it's convenient to me.

<“Every man of courage is a man of his word.” - Pierre Corneille>

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

That's good to know. Thanks for sharing! 😘

[–] arete_1 8 years ago

Who watches shows when they are on anymore??? I literally know no one, including me, who is lucky enough to have enough time to catch the shows they watch when they are actually on. Usually they (and I) will be perpetually 2-3 episodes behind all season on every show.

Watching shows when they come on is so pre-VCR/cable era, and definitely pre-internet/TiVo era; when people didn't work 50+ hours a week on average, didn't invest much time in their kids ("Go out and play" instead of various sports and activities and even play dates practically every day of the week), the majority of females didn't work so had more time for TV, there simply weren't so many shows to watch (and definitely only a few great shows: we now literally have dozens of great shows and many are hour long formats), and not so many people were single and so working and running the household by themselves (even when both partners work full time, you can at least split house chores and errands in half...which of course takes time from watching TV for both partners).

Oh wait, I do know some people who do catch TV shows when actually on: the retired. But there aren't so many of them anymore since so many have to work until they die since retirement worth the name (defined benefit pension) is mostly a thing of the past.