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What do you take away from this move?


Its a shame that people dont have the maturity to at least give this movie some credit. No offense.
Its an adult movie. Of course this guy(Locke) is somewhat off. Things like "the important thing is the baby comes out" are hilarious, but not normal. He tries to handle his social life like the construction site. Maybe you have to know the sector to know how incredible stressful it can be. Everybody is piss drunk. Everybody is giving you *beep* 1000 things to handle at the same time. A lot of money is involved(lol quote), not just in high rise. (of course no real pros would just fire the guy on the phone...the situation would be taken care off in conference with everybody involved) Unfortunately his management skills dont really help him in is social *beep* up. His life breaks down. But it matters how he engages, not the ultimate outcome. This is what I take from the movie. Its about being clear with yourself - everything else is up to the others.

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During the whole course of the movie, Locke is determined he's doing the right thing, what his old man could never do. Maybe for a while we believe in his way of dealing with things. But then Gareth says "You could've just called in sick, man."
This I think is the crucial point that we can take away. You don't necessarily need to be the noble 'always gonna stick to my principles' kinda person, you need to adapt with the situation.
Locke should've told his bosses that he was sick, secretly continued to instruct Donal on the cement issues, lied to his wife about why he wasn't going back home that night, and finally end up going to london anyway.
This way he could've avoided the whole 'telling you wife *beep* from the car' and gone home and deal with matters in a more controlled, pleasant way.

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locke was a bastard child , father was never there
he creates a bastard child..ie he is 100% like his father,very Shakespearean here.

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Mm, but that would have just postponed the issues...

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I think Ivan is trying to be so right he ends up being wrong almost. The whole "10 years you worked for me..." - "No it was 9 years". And he keeps correcting him because he wants to be things the right way. Sometimes you dont have to be right and some times its ok to lie I would think.

Being smart is better than being right.

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I agree about Garreth's line being crucial, but I think that what is missed a lot is that this is the most unremarkable man. 10 years at work and he never caused a bother, the Council guy remembers he runs a tight ship, his wife isn't even willing to believe it, his kids will still love him, Donal runs around drunk for him, Steffan does the job and checks work that's not his for him.

This is one night in the life of a man without incident. A neat man, a concise man, a thorough man, attributes which fit his actually important job, but attributes that also compensate for not being academically or corporately successful..

He's never played an angle because he never needed to. Like the whole movie, he is very straightforward.

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Steffan didn't do the work out of kindness. Locke was paying him & his 2 guys 600BPS each to do the job.

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And if Steffan didn't already have a good working relationship with Locke he wouldn't have said yes to leaving his current job mid shift to do a days work in four hours at night. Money only solves the problem when it's done with respect, the price was Locke's recognition of the size of the favour being done for him, not the price Steffan can be bought at.

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Stefan wasn't leaving his job mid-shift. Locke told Donal that they would soon be finishing (9.30 p.m., I think it was) since bitumen lights can't be used later. That's why Donal had to hurry & catch them before they left for the night.

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While you are correct, this is a conversation where you are going to pick apart my words all the while overlooking the idea that in the real world if someone asks you to go out of your way for them, your answer can vary depending on who's asking and how they ask, doesn't matter the amount of money.

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LOL. "Pick apart your words"? In other words, have a viewpoint different from yours.

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Not feeding the troll

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n-j-toner, you are 100% right. Sorry stirchley, but the basic point holds up completely in the real world. And Stefan is so sure he's going to be paid, and presumably he's in a good mood, he calls Locke "the best man in England", which is a significant moment after some of what Locke has been through.

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Thank you so much for this - really fascinating to get some input from the construction industry about the atmosphere on a large scale job like this!

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I noticed that people hear what you say but they aren't actually listening. I would assume Locke's wife would know about his childhood and recognize the importance for him to not make similar mistakes in not righting th wrong essentially. Same with the co-workers and other heads of the construction projects. When Locke says he will continue with the project because he care about it, his boss hears the same thing and the exact same phrase more than once but still doesn't understand or listen to what Locke is trying to commuincate. Same with Bethan, Locke mentioned he was going to be there every single time he spoke with her but her lack of trust in that situaton or her lack of listening to the sincerity in which he spoke made her ask the same question over and over.

In addition to what other posters have said I really think that the movie demonstrate how self-centered some people can be without consideration to the emotions and situations others find themselves in. I am not making ANYONE a villian in the movie, since the characters were simply human, not good or bad.


Tracing one warm line through a land so wild and savage and make a Northwest Passage to the Sea

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Having just watched it, what I took away from it.



When you try to do the right thing, it doesn't mean anyone's going to like you for it.

What matters is, he is honest with himself about what he did. He's not running from it, he may not have made the best decisions about how to deal with it, but he was doing his best. He was trying to make sure no one got screwed at the construction site, especially Donal because of his mistake. So he took responsibility for it, even though it cost him his job. Possibly his career.

It's hard to gauge whether his wife needed a reason to say it was over, or if it was over anyway. As others have said, the movie takes place in "real-time", and to expect your partner to "get over it" in 90 minutes is unrealistic. We can all say she "should have" or "could have" but I think anyone knows that when something bad happens in a relationship, sometimes there's no turning back. To me it seemed like his indiscretion was just an excuse for his wife to say goodbye. He was rarely home by the sounds of it because of his career, and maybe he put career first. But look at his background, his upbringing. Abandoned by a father. So why wouldn't he work, work, work to maintain a family. It doesn't mean he gets it right. Maybe he's just as absent as his own father was, but he made efforts. He was trying. His wife should know these things.

I couldn't help but feel bad for him. He made a mistake. He was trying to make it right. What was he supposed to do? Lie to his wife the rest of his life? Never acknowledge the child out of wedlock? Pretend he was sick for the following work day. He would have been worse off living that life than owning up to his mistake and dealing with the consequences. At least he can look at himself in the mirror and say "I tried."

It was a good movie. A day in the life.



He didn't just try and hide it away under the rug.

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What I found so interesting was that the movie really had no judgement on anyone. It was just a glimpse into the moment of crisis in someone's life.

Yes, Locke was a likable guy. Everyone says this is unlike him, so he is a steady, reliable fellow. He screwed up big time. He desires to 'make it right'. Here is the problem with Locke's perspective, in my mind: I'm not sure I actually heard him apologize to his wife, or his sons. He says he made a mistake and it was just one time, but he is not crying, he is not even outright asking for forgiveness. He states the facts and insists that there is a way to 'fix it'. Like concrete. Except people aren't like concrete, and you can't always turn those lemons into lemonade. He sounded almost clinical talking to his wife, and so I felt like he was either disconnected emotionally from the impact of his actions, or he was in shock about what was happening and so essentially functioning on autopilot.

He is clearly emotionally damaged, whether that be as a result of his upbringing or whatever else. He handles his intimate relations(except for maybe his kids, we saw some cracks in his control when he was talking to them) like he does the concrete. I think he is aware of how much he has ruined, and right now he is just in 'try to make the best of it" mode. I think he will show emotion and regret later...even though he is comparing himself favorably to his father, I think there is actually a undercurrent of self-loathing in all that. I'm not sure he believes it. When Stefan says that Locke is the best man in England, Locke stays dead silent and has a very pained expression on his face. He knows what a complete dog he has been. And I think that means that there is hope for them to work things out.

So yes, I like him. I hope he comes crawling back to his wife and that she eventually forgives him. I hope they see the problems in their relationship that led to this situation, and take steps to strengthen the relationship so that it never happens again. The wife reacted badly(understandably) and maybe said some things that she will regret later and desire to take back(the "don't come back" thing). Locke has obviously screwed up huge. And he knows it. But he doesn't really know how to sincerely ask for forgiveness.

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Very well said! :-)

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Beautifully said

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It broke my heart, the look on Lock's face, when after all that time of trying to take care of everything/everyone, keeping it together.... the only time anyone did that for him was when his little son said everything would be alright.

For me, that's what the film is about - you can't control everything and you have to let someone else take care of you sometimes.

John 3:16

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This is what I personally took away from it:
Get things sorted out.
As Locke says in it "You push, and you keep pushing, until it stands on it's own again" (something like that)

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I think you're completely right - about being clear with yourself. Locke wouldn't have wanted to lie, and if he called in sick that would have been leaving the job to someone else. He took responsibility.

Locke is a strong character. He's like the concrete he pours. He's inflexible, in a way, but he is emotionally responsive to everything. And he wants to deal with the s*** his Dad laid on him, no matter what. He almost has no choice, in that way.

Somebody put in the goofs section something like "he's an competent manager so why didn't he think to hire a nanny to look after Bethan?" Way to miss the point, no?

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