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Very weak ending for non-religious people


I'm glad I saw the movie and there were many things to like. The performances were great overall although I can also understand some people who say Denzel could have toned it down just a notch for the film version although I still enjoyed his performance. And yes, the movie is quite mediocre as a pure film as it is an extremely direct adaptation of the play and it could have been more ambitious in terms of adapting it to the screen (cinematography etc).

I also found the main character to be less charming than many other viewers. I know he is this flawed person with huge character flaws, but we are also meant to empathize with him and find him charming at times. I did empathize when he told the story about his father (very powerful), but I found his behavior tiring and obnoxious even when he was supposed to be charming and jokey like in the first 10 minutes. But that's just me, I hate many of the personality traits that the main character has (ridiculous self-centered over the top stories, self-righteous etc.).

However, I digress. My main problem with the movie is with the ending which pushed the movie from "pretty great movie" to "a good but flawed movie" category for me. I am not religious so I found the whole symbolism of the trumpet playing opening the sky and the family staring in awe very weak. I feel such endings are a cliche, but that's not even the main weakness. It is that for a non-religious person who does not believe in concepts such as heaven, the ending rings emotionally hollow.

And the thing is, I can definitely appreciate if not even enjoy religious symbolism and themes in movies even if I don't believe in god myself if the religious imagery and themes ring emotionally true. In this case, I found the ending to be jarring because the last thing we see is the main character being abusive toward his own son and essentially being toxic to everyone around him.

However, then immediately after that the last scene has the tone of "let's understand him and even forgive him, he tried his best" which I personally find very strange. There was less ambiguity in the last scene than I was expecting. I know they did not make him a hero at the end, but they did "pardon his sins" in a way and to have the last image of the movie and the last emotional takeaway be that the main character is now in heaven feels very, very strange. I appreciate if others disagree, but the ending was too cliche and emotionally unsatisfying if you don't personally believe in the whole redemption and going to heaven stories of Christianity.

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I thought about the ending too. I simply took it as a lesson about forgiveness and letting the hurtful past go (something Troy couldn't do). The sunlight signals a brand new day of healing. Maybe Troy did go to heaven (as the religious-minded family would be inclined to believe about their departed)...maybe he didn't. In my view, that wasn't really central to the moment. I was more interested in how the family came to terms with him being gone. I was left with the question of "what happens next?". On that note, I'd say that the ending felt unfinished and open-ended.

Remember how Cory didn't want to attend his father's funeral? He was still carrying around anger even though Troy was no longer alive to provoke him. Rose had to sit him down and convince him to go anyways. Despite how badly Troy treated his family in life, they didn't hold hatred for him. They came together and found some degree of peace, love or strength to move on. I think THAT is the shocking or emotionally unsatisfying part...the surviving family's reaction to Troy's death. After all they went through, how could they??? The guy was a selfish, stubborn, crotchety old fool! Perhaps some of the audience wanted to see someone spit on his grave, smash the fence or (in keeping with religious imagery) watch his soul burn in hell for all the misery he caused. Personally, I think that would've been too depressing an ending after enduring two hours of watching everyone's pain unfold onscreen. Where's the hope in that?

I'm not trying to sugarcoat nor condone what Troy did. I don't believe the religious imagery was meant to achieve that either. In a way, Troy was also finding his release from an earthly life of hardship.

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I agree, the movie "Silence" makes the exact same mistake. It is unfortunate that these two highly influential movies could have had much more impact if only their endings hadn't been so crudely obtuse.

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I do agree that Silence did the same "mistake" (from my perspective anyway) as Fences. It went a step too far in completely obvious and heavy-handed religious imagery. Again, I'm sure it doesn't bother people who are either Christian themselves or those who enjoy "magical realism".

I, on the other hand, would prefer a more subtle treatment of concepts such as forgiveness (in Fences) and doubt (in Silence). To have a trumpet open the skies (in Fences) or God himself talk to the main character and then end it with such an obvious image (in Silence) just reduces the impact of the films and puts them in a box that makes it harder for non-religious (or magical realism fans) to enjoy. Just my opinion of course.

I wouldn't mind seeing Davis win the Oscar for Fences and Silence winning the best cinematography Oscar.

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Why would you want to take away from the film because of your belief. The movie was not made to impress you. We as a nation are entirely too sensitive to everything and we let it drive our thinking and our lives. It's only a movie not a church.

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More christian garbage just like Hacksaw Ridge.

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I'm not religious, either. The ending didn't bother me at all. Some magical realism don't bother me none, bro.

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