How convenient!


Most films rely on a few plot contrivances to get us from the beginning of the story to the end in just 2hrs, however this one is littered with them from start to finish:

- The Franklin and it's disillusioned Captain just happen to crash land on a nebula planet full of drone tech and the technology to prolong life (by killing others).
How convenient!

- The Federation decide to build their largest, newest diplomatic outpost (Yorktown space station) just outside the nebula, which is still uncharted space. Risky much?
How convenient!

- Krall sends Kalara to the Yorktown to bait the Enterprise into the nebula with a fake rescue story. How does he know Kirk has the artifact? How does he know the Enterprise will be at Yorktown? How does he know Starfleet will send the Enterprise to the rescue?
How convenient!

- Despite destroying the Enterprise and killing most of her crew Krall is able to safely steal the artifact from the undamaged storage room (before losing it to Kirk)
How convenient!

- Scotty just happens to be rescued by the only person on the planet with access to The Franklin wreckage
How convenient!

- Kirk and Chekov fortuitously avoid being crushed by the Enterprise saucer section (unlike Kalara)
How convenient!

- Kirk and Chekov just happen to run into the Franklin wreckage (and Scotty and Jaylah) on their way to Krall's base
How convenient!

- Scotty is able to locate and transport Spock and McCoy on-board (while the rest of the crew are captured)
How convenient!

- Krall keeps Uhura alive (but kills Syl) and tells her things which later allow her to work out he is Edison.
How convenient!

- Uhura and Sulu escape just long enough to figure out what Krall is doing (and send an S.O.S which he sabotages)
How convenient!

- Jaylah, the only alien ally they have on the planet, just happens to know the layout of Krall's base, which hasn't changed since she was a prisoner there as a child
How convenient!

- The Franklin needs to be kick-started via free fall. Luckily it crash landed on top of a steep ravine.
How convenient!

- McCoy (the ship's doctor) is able to pilot a drone ship, designed for use by robot drones, without any modifications or training
How convenient!

- Despite Krall having a significant headstart, the Enterprise is able to catch up with him and prevent his ship from reaching the centre of Yorktown by crashing into it. This is one of drone ships that destroyed the Enterprise by punching holes in its hull...
How convenient!

- The bioweapon remains passive for minutes after Krall activates it (ignoring Kirk as he floats past it) despite instantly consuming Syl earlier in the film. This delay gives Kirk just enough time to eject it into space
How convenient!

- Spock and McCoy appear just in time to rescue Kirk before he's ejected from Yorktown along with Krall and the bioweapon
How convenient!

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Just thinking... maybe movies aint for you?

Convenient things happen like ALL THE TIME in pretty much ALL movies, though im with you a bit, they really stacked that pile high in this one. Save yourself from all this emotional pain and good luck in your future endeavors

It´s beer o´clock. Wheres my riot?

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Just thinking... maybe movies aint for you?
I love movies in general.
I also like to ANALyse them.
This one suffered from poor writing despite being Fast and Furious!

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ust thinking... maybe movies aint for you?


Well, there are people who actually have brains and prefer well-written plots that do not insult them, and then there are lazy people who gobble down anything without question because it is entertainment, durrr!

Last time I looked, there was nothing wrong with choosing entertainment that inspires one to actually think.

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I am not a fan. I just happen to enjoy movies. Fans are embarrassing.

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There is also nothing wrong with enjoying something that's just pure entertainment, sometimes some people just want to watch something that's more light-hearted fun and not too heavy or deep to unwind and relax or just kill some time.

Besides, even among all the flashy CGI and action sequences, I think Beyond still had quite a fairly strong message about unity in this movie.

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When the first response the OP gets for writing a list of things he did not feel worked is some joker saying "maybe movies aren't for you", it exposes the fact that the person in question is threatened by thinking people rather than simply enjoying the film and moving on. There was no need for him to act like movies aren't for the OP just because he found the writing to be lacking in Star Trek Beyond.

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One thing krall actually hacked into the Enterprise's computer you see the scene change when spock puts the artifact away.

"Some of the worst things imaginable have been done with the best intentions"

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"Scotty is able to locate and transport Spock and McCoy on-board (while the rest of the crew are captured)
How convenient!"

Don't forget that happened as soon as they were spotted by the drones hahah. Look I actually enjoy these movies they're a fun ride, but there are so many times I find myself going "ok..let's just ignore how convenient that was" way more than your average film.

At this point I try to blame it on luck, it's the only thing that keeps me from being too over critical and keeping me from enjoying the movies.

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Lol good point about the fortuitous timing of their rescue!

Contrivances are par for the course in films and even necessary to a certain extent but this film abused them in order to advance the plot, which to me is a sign of poor writing.

Unfortunately this time they were enough to prevent me from enjoying the story but I'm glad you did.

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I'm surprised you didn't mention how convient it was that Uhura had a tracking device...I mean necklace...given to her by Spock that allowed Spock and crew to track down her and the remaining crew's whereabouts.



Just because someone does something good for you, that doesn't mean they're good for you.

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How right you are...

Sorry I didn't mention the serendipitous jewellery but with this many conveniences it's easy to miss a few!

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I agree with a lot of your points although some of it is nit picking but they are valid.

Actually the biggest convenience to me I'm shocked you didn't mention is the fact that its the Enterprise they sent to rescue them at all that just happens to have the device. And how did Krall and his people know they would even send the Enterprise? They basically just said they needed help, they could've sent almost anyone and their well thought out plan is already destroyed.

I have a hard time believing a space station that size and literally parked next to the expanse wouldn't already have other ships for basic rescue missions or scout ships. I mean what if the Enterprise wasn't there? There would be no one to go to their rescue? Maybe they would just call someone else but it always felt odd to me ONLY the Enterprise can save them when you would think if they are so close to the expanse part of that reason would be to send in scientific vessels to explore it.

And lets be more honest the film didn't even need the base as part of the story as they could've just attacked them in space once they got word the Enterprise had it. I'm still not sure why they just didn't do that since it was made pretty clear Krall had the option to do it instead of luring them to the planet in a convoluted way.

I liked the film overall and nothing in it was as nearly bad as STID which wasn't just convenience issues but plain idiocy that happened a lot in that movie. I still can't believe we have to believe Marcus would be stupid enough to hand over all the incriminating evidence of Khan's people to the Enterprise when it would take all five minutes to get rid of them himself, but now the 'proof' they needed he was up to no good...talk about convenience. Its still one of the biggest WTF issues in that movie.

But yes Beyond had problems but not anymore than most films like this do.

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It's convenient that it was the Enterprise that was sent to the rescue but remember how often we hear in a star trek film how the Enterprise is always the only ship in range.

The Motion Picture is a good example. The Enterprise was the only ship in range yet it was parked in a spacedock orbiting the Earth.

So you see, that particular convenience has been used since 1979 lol.

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It's a movie the Enterprise and its crew are the main characters of the story so it would be a star trek film without it.

"Some of the worst things imaginable have been done with the best intentions"

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When i saw the movie my mind jumped to that the hacking done, told about the artifact and where it was. Then the big bad made his plan and the trap was set and so on. . .

It´s beer o´clock. Wheres my riot?

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It's convenient that it was the Enterprise that was sent to the rescue but remember how often we hear in a star trek film how the Enterprise is always the only ship in range.

The Motion Picture is a good example. The Enterprise was the only ship in range yet it was parked in a spacedock orbiting the Earth.

So you see, that particular convenience has been used since 1979 lol.


No I get all of that, I do. What I'm saying is its too MUCH convenience in this case because not only is the Enterprise the only ship around, its also the ship that happens to be carrying the McGuffin they need as well. Thats why I said maybe it would feel a bit less like that if Enterprise was just attacked in space but yes we would then lose the space station which was one of the cooler parts of the film. Not a huge deal at the end of the day but when you see all these conveniences stacked on one another it does feel a bit lazy.

In TMP they were the ones who were there to confront the threat but V'ger didn't directly seek them out either.

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I liked the film overall and nothing in it was as nearly bad as STID which wasn't just convenience issues but plain idiocy that happened a lot in that movie. I still can't believe we have to believe Marcus would be stupid enough to hand over all the incriminating evidence of Khan's people to the Enterprise when it would take all five minutes to get rid of them himself, but now the 'proof' they needed he was up to no good...talk about convenience. Its still one of the biggest WTF issues in that movie.


What incriminating evidence did Marcus hand over?

"Can you keep a secret? Can you know something and never speak of it again?"

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;Krall sends Kalara to the Yorktown to bait the Enterprise into the nebula with a rescue story. How does he know Kirk has the artifact? How does he know the Enterprise will be at Yorktown? How does he know Starfleet will send the Enterprise to the rescue?
; this one was actually addressed in the movie. There is a part where they realize Krall has been listening in on communications with the Yorkstown

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The piled-up conveniences trope was made famous in literature by Charles Dickens.

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TRinzler ... Kudos to you. you are so right on every point except Krall doesn't find the artifact in a storage room... it was hidden inside some aliens head.. but hey! same thing.




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TRinzler ... Kudos to you. you are so right on every point except Krall doesn't find the artifact in a storage room... it was hidden inside some aliens head.. but hey! same thing.



Actually Krall did. Only when he got in a fight with Kirk, did Kirk open the case, and take it out and then hide it elsewhere.

"Can you keep a secret? Can you know something and never speak of it again?"

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