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Zach v. Carl: Who is the bigger douchebag dumbass kid?


Carl and his stupid cowboy hat that he robbed from his Mom's boyfriend are #1 for me. Keep hoping he will get fragged by his own Dad.

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Nick from FTWD.

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Carl's a badass and a good kid. He's also selfless.
Nick's an addict but he has a good heart, and he's smart. Zach's on a lonely island of stupid all by himself.

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I would put Zach at the top of the list with Nick a close second; Coral has started to grow on me (a little).

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Chris from fear the walking dead was horrible to

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I'd put Chris at #4. Zach is clearly 1, 2 and #3. Nick was up there in season 1 of FTWD but he somewhat redeems himself later. Carl is ok. I actually like Carl and think the kid gets the short end of the stick. Dude lost his mother. Gets shot not once, but twice and one was in the eye! He should be psycho by now but he's calm and collected. Yes the cowboy hat is stupid though.


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Agreed, Chris was bad but it's kind of understandable after all he's been through. So, yeah #4 sounds right. Agree on Carl, and Nick who are some of my fave characters on TWD and FTWD. I like Carl's hat personally, it's his signature attire. kind of like Nick's horrible, greasy hair. Now that's gross but it is a ZA so I'll let that go.

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Zack takes the cake. He set off a nuclear bomb. I mean just look at his face. He looks evil. He looks like the Antichrist.

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Zack! Little piece of crap. He needs his nut sack sliced off...

Enough said.


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Zach. It's not even close. Carl can be a brat, but at least he's matured and has proven himself to be useful to the group. Zach just nuked New York City because he hates his dad.

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Zach just nuked New York City because he hates his dad.


Not to mention the reason he hates his dad - because his dad is not an actual bloodsucking Nazi, that's why.


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You nailed it panik. Kid's awful.

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He sure did.

Zach is hopeless trash.

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Carl because he thinks he's *beep* cool 😡



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I never thought anyone could overtake Carl but Zac may have usurped him in the finale.

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Whats everyone got against Carl? He was a little snotty in season 2, but since then he's taken out lori(yay) and handled the apocalypse pretty well. I've got no beef with Carl.

Zach on the other hand can go die in a fire!

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Whats everyone got against Carl? He was a little snotty in season 2, but since then he's taken out lori(yay) and handled the apocalypse pretty well. I've got no beef with Carl.


Well said. I don't know what the anti Carl hate is all about. Sure, he was a bit naive and bratty in season 1 but he was a 10 YO kid. What do you expect from a 10 YO.

Since then, Carl's grown up and matured a lot, he's become a badass and saved many lives starting late season 2. He sacrifices for the group whenever needed. Carl would never be against his dad for saving himself. No way is Carl this terrible character I keep reading about. Carl rocks, Zack sucks.

Zach on the other hand can go die in a fire!


Well, great minds think alike again.

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