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They had him AGAIN, and...


*beeping* morons!

They had him i a box!
In a fkucing BOX!

And then for some F reason they couldn't just kill him right there, but had to do other stuff first, and... woops look, he took the opportunity to run off!
What a shame awww!

This is like the Donald Trump of TV series.

From now, I'm on the side of the monsters.

Nuke the planet, and make the retarded kid president of the remains.

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They weren't the morons the kid was. I want Zach to die slowly and horribly.

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Yeah they had him 3 times and they failed!If master is so easily defeated i wonder how he didn't died centuries ago.

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Because all the vampire hunters are inbred retards.

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed Master is King.

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Time for the London chapter to step in.

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hope zach gets turned right in front of his father and he cuts off his fuczking head

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If I was as smart as Fett, I would not expect a nuclear explosion to knock over the silver coffin and let the already damaged Master escape. It wasn't something that could have been predicted.

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No, if you were as smart as he is supposted to be, he would have expected a horde of vampires attacking them, which might influence the coffin in some way. After all they were there to fight the Master, so some more resistance would have been likely.

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Your issues can be directly traced back to the fact that you don't f^cking pay any attention. There's no killing the Master. The only way to defeat him is to trap him in the coffin.

The idiot formerly known as Heez.

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What about exposing the red worm to sunlight, or burning it, or smashing it?

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What about nuking him? It killed the three other ancients.

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The Nuke or stomping his worm would work but besides all that why didnt they weld the damn coffin shut once he was in. They should suspect that sinking it in the river or ocean can still lead to it popping open and him making it out alive cause clearly he can cross water. I would of welded it shut and damn I really hate Zach he is reaching Joffery levels in my eyes.

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Really?

So if you shot his ass on a rocket right into the sun, he would be just fine?
Unless of course you put him in a box first.

Oh, wait.
The sun would vaporize the box, and he would be free!

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LOL. . .I absolutely LOVE people like this, who try to defend absurd writing with "you don't get it, durr durr durr!"

As is almost always the case, YOU haven't paid attention.

The master is one of seven ancients.

We just saw three of the other ancients killed.

HOW do you conclude you can't kill the Master?

Oh, nevermind. . .I see how. It's because you don't f^cking pay attention!

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Yeah, stupid writing. Why couldn't Dutch and Eph just make a nuke and dispose the master that way? Even Northkorea can make nukes and Eph is a ff-ing doctor!

Talk about logic.

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1) I never said it was good writing. I simply pointed out there was an on screen explanation.

2) We didn't see any ancients die. It was implied, and a half breed managed to make it out alive, so their deaths are far from certain. Also, the Lumen says next to nothing about killing one of them, even on the super secret invisible ink sections. It does however go into great detail about the coffin method. You'de imagine if they included one method of defeating them, they'd include all of them. As it stands, there is no method for killing an ancient.

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LMAO:

1) You pointed Nothing out. You made an erroneous claim, and snarkily added the fact that only highly-intelligent folks such as yourself, who "paid attention," would see it. You're wrong, on all counts. As has been explained to you.

2) If the ancients are not dead, that's simply another instance of abysmal storytelling. Because it's more than implied; much of what happens subsequently trades on this fact. Also: you know NOTHING of what the Lumen says; you only know what the show has revealed Setrakian understands thus far.

The cascade of illogic is absurd. Clearly the Master went to their lair to kill them. Clearly he would know how to do such a thing. So such a thing IS possible. The show deviates from the book as to how, but the logic is inescapable.

Conclusion: step away from the keyboard. Critical thinking ain't your thing. . .

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Regardless of whether or not they're actually dead, implied deaths leave the door open for a return. This is a classic film and television trope, so there's absolutely no doubt they knew what they were doing by presenting it the way they did. Maybe they plan to bring them back, maybe they'll stay dead, but a conscious choice was made to add at least some degree of ambiguity.

As for killing the Master, of course there's a way to do it, but as far as the characters are concerned, they don't have the slightest idea how. I have no idea what the hell you're talking about when you say I only know what the professor understands, well yeah so does he, and none of what he understands has told him how to kill the Master. If it's in some section he can't translate, then for all intents and purposes it's not in there. It's not just the Lumen that would lead one to believe you can't kill an ancient either. They've also hit him with all the methods that easily kill normal strigoi, and it's barely slowed him down. Oh right, and there's also the fact that he's generally immortal. Given all these factors, the only logical conclusion the characters can reach is that it's either impossible, or simply too difficult to kill him, so you go with the only other option you've got.

P.S. F^ck you.

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Oh, I get it. You're an idiot.

Sigh. Could've just said so in the beginning, and saved us all a Lot of time. . .

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Good Tip OP - cheering for the monsters could be helpful in bearing this show
for another cracyness from Zak :)

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In the books there was no red worm, you could blast master to singular atoms and he would still be alive because you need to destroy their place of origin (WHICH IS WHY THE BOOK IS SO IMPORTANT! It contains clues to their place of origin!) Ancients die because master destroyed their places of origin with nuclear fire (the face of god) they just turn to dust right in front of our characters.

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Not to mention that if the box was so pitiful that it was broken open because of the shock wave (whereas people subject to same shock wave were fine), how did they expect it to last underwater?

I'd have put the box in a shipping container and filled the shipping container with concrete.

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That box looked like it was made by Epp and Dutch while they were drunk and having anal sex with the vampire monkey kids.

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I really do not understand why they did not just kill the Master once they had him in the box. I can think of a thousand ways to destroy his body, his trivial (white) worms, and his large crimson worm which contains his essence. The first time around they did not know about the crimson worm, but once they had that crucial information why didn't they ever think about killing that little crimson bugger? How about just pouring the coffin in a furnace full of hot molten steel?

The ancient Egyptians trapped another Ancient in a similar coffin because presumably they did not know about the crimson worm. If they did their action would not have made much sense. I guess they already tried killing that Ancient and resurfaced somehow, but they did not know why. But our team's "trapping and diving in the ocean" scheme, despite knowing about the crimson worm, appears to be purely designed for a 4th season renewal.

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