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It's time for Marcel to go


So I just finished watching Season 3 of TO last night on Netflix and I must say it's time for Marcel to go. The writers just can't seem him to write him properly. From the beginning of S1 we see that he not a fan of the Mikelseans yet it was them that saved him from a life of slavery. Yet he has hated them, then he was loyal to them at times then went back to hating them, and the cycle has been going on and on. They have failed over and over to make sense of his relationship with the Mikelseans but I guess the end of S3 has put that to rest. Marcel is ready to destroy them all because of Davina's death. A young witch that has plotted to destory them many times over the past 3 seasons. Who have given them more then plenty of reasons for her to have her heart ripped out by them but yet Marcel chooses to be mad at them because she had to be sacrificed to stop Lucian.

Marcel has betrayed this family enough. While I do get some of the reasons for his hatred of them he is in all honesty not that much better. If he had to kill Klaus as a sacrifice to save Davina like Freya and Elijah to save Hayley and Klaus he would do it in a heartbeat. Marcel has to be the most hypocritical character on the show and I'm glad Vincent called him out for it.

It's time for Marcel to go who agrees???

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Marcel is in the right.

He hates them because they claim he's family yet they would toss him aside in a heartbeat. Klaus refused to let him and the woman he loved be together all because he wanted her to himself. They left him for dead. Klaus was controling. And Davina is his "adopted" daughter, she only went after them because Klaus and Elijah killed or tried to kill her friends, used her as a power source, held control over the lives of the people she cared about all for their own agenda not caring about how it would affect anyone else. Then they killed her and expect him to be fine with it and still be loyal to them. No. If Marcel can't be upset about Davina's death, then Klaus is not allowed to be upset if Hope dies, just because one is not biological doesn't mean a damn thing and if you think it does don't ever adopt a child.

And Elijah is the most hypocritical.

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Nope he isn't right at all he is a hypocrite and would do the same if the situation was reversed. If Davina was in danger and the only way to save her would be to sacrifice Klaus he would do in a heartbeat. It's time for him to go.

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You are comparing Klaus - a thousand year old vampire who took pleasure in destroying lives nust for his own amusement, to Davina - a 19 year old girl who onky ever wanted to protect her friends.

And its not the fact that they sacrificed her, its the fact that they jumped at the opportunity, didn't care, didn't try to find another way and expected him to still worship them afterwards.

Step 1 - pick up a phone, call Kol
Step 2 - Kol vamp speed over, they save Davina, use a different witch whose death wont piss allies off
Step 3 - stop Lucien.

Between figuring out they could use Davina to actually using her, they had plenty of time to do that ^.

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to Davina - a 19 year old girl who onky ever wanted to protect her friends.



I dont recall her doing that in season 1 but okaIn s

I think she being a human/witch doing black magic BY CHOICE showed that she is the true evil. Bringing back love of your life using dark magic is not protecting him! She broke all magic rules trying bringing him back. She broke all magic rules in wanting revenge on Klaus (bringing back Mikeal was epic). Yes he killed her boyfriend and was mean to her friends but SHE chose to follow the dark path. Others lost their humanity somewhere along their journey, what is her excuse?

And its not the fact that they sacrificed her, its the fact that they jumped at the opportunity, didn't care


Not them, Elijah and Freya. Klaus and Hayley told them to find another way but Elijah knows best so. I dont like her so I am not sad that she is gone but the way she was send off was wrong.

didn't try to find another way and expected him to still worship them afterwards.


. That is my biggest issue with Elijah. He didnt try to find any with her and with Marcel. What is not shown on screen is not cannon so all those who say that they didnt have a choice are wrong.


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I dont recall her doing that in season 1 but okaIn s

I think she being a human/witch doing black magic BY CHOICE showed that she is the true evil. Bringing back love of your life using dark magic is not protecting him! She broke all magic rules trying bringing him back. She broke all magic rules in wanting revenge on Klaus (bringing back Mikeal was epic). Yes he killed her boyfriend and was mean to her friends but SHE chose to follow the dark path. Others lost their humanity somewhere along their journey, what is her excuse?


The witches were trying to kill her because they were obsessed with power. Marcel had her locked in an attic believing the only way she'd be safe is if the witches are dealt with. She was 16 she wasn't doing all of tnis by choice, that was Marcel's fault. Klaus killed Tim, controlled Marcel, threatened Josh and Cami (just by getting her involved) so Davina had every right to protect them. Mikael is a lesser evil than Klaus because he didn't go after innocent humans, there was nothing wrong with bringing him back to kill Klaus, and she had control of him until Kol interfered. Killing Klaus in the long run is the best thing for everyone (after break sireline). Bringing back Kol only had negative effect on her, no one else. And at least she cared. And she wouldn't have needed to work with the strix if Kara hadn't attacked her, and Hayley hadn't killed those other 10 witches.

Not them, Elijah and Freya. Klaus and Hayley told them to find another way but Elijah knows best so. I dont like her so I am not sad that she is gone but the way she was send off was wrong.


I was talking about Elijah and Freya. And no Elijah does not know best.

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The witches were trying to kill her because they were obsessed with power.


Apparently that is how their ritual worked- their power came from that. They are witches for goodness sake. They need their power from somewhere. It was nothing against Davina particularly. YES their method was wrong. YEs what they were doing was wrong but like i said it was not something particularly against Davina and her friends. I believe that if Marcel had not interfered the ritual would have worked. It worked sort of but Esther hijacked those powers and gave the o the people she wanted to give.

Marcel had her locked in an attic believing the only way she'd be safe is if the witches are dealt with. She was 16 she wasn't doing all of tnis by choice, that was Marcel's fault.


She was informing Marcel about the witches using magic. She was old enough to understand what Marcel was doing to them. And she was okay with it. That was evil in her. She was only 16...

Klaus killed Tim, controlled Marcel, threatened Josh and Cami (just by getting her involved) so Davina had every right to protect them.


Klaus killed Tim- bad move.
Klaus controlled Marcel? Have you forgotten that he tried to kill Klaus FIRST?
He threatened Josh who had just met Davina. She tried to kill someone for someone whom she had just met? I dont expect that from a sixteen year old.
Cami was her own fault. Klaus tried to send her away. Davina broke that compulsion. If she really wanted to protect Cami she would have let her go. In fact Klaus was trying to protect Cami, Davina put her back in danger by trying to be all powerful and knowing best and all.

Mikael is a lesser evil than Klaus because he didn't go after innocent humans, there was nothing wrong with bringing him back to kill Klaus, and she had control of him until Kol interfered.


oh wow. I dont even know where to start this one so I am going to let this go.

Killing Klaus in the long run is the best thing for everyone (after break sireline).


Really? Then why not Elijah who made STRIX for his ego. Why not all the other vampires who enjoying killing humans? Why not herself who blackmailed Hayley to kill those witches?

She had been trying to kill Klaus since season 1 since KLaus killed her beloved Tim whom she knew for what 5 seconds (okay that is not really an excuse not to hate Klaus but come on so much grudge just for that?). She brought Mikeal just for that. I dont think she even knew about sireline back then.

Bringing back Kol only had negative effect on her, no one else.


yes that showed ME that she is evil.

And at least she cared.


Of course she cared for him because she is teenager who got infatuated by a handsome man who gave a damn about her. No one else really did other than Marcel. Is it such a shock that she fell for him?

And she wouldn't have needed to work with the strix if Kara hadn't attacked her, and Hayley hadn't killed those other 10 witches.


What? She killed Kara because the witches were revolting against Davina. She wanted to be the leader IIRC. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Hayley killed those witches because she forced Hayley's hand, not other way around. She had the power to help Hayley but she didnt nothing and practically blackmailed her. She is the evil manipulator. When you deal with dark magic you have to deal with consequence. Someone even told her in season 3 but seh didnt pay a heed to that person too. She was stupid and she died coz of her stupidity but the way she died even made me sad.


And no Elijah does not know best.


yeah was being sarcastic. They really need to make a emoji for sarcasm.

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You are comparing Klaus - a thousand year old vampire who took pleasure in destroying lives nust for his own amusement, to Davina - a 19 year old girl who onky ever wanted to protect her friends.

Davina has also took pleasure in taking lives to protect those she cares about so let's not pretend she is some innocent angel.
And its not the fact that they sacrificed her, its the fact that they jumped at the opportunity, didn't care, didn't try to find another way and expected him to still worship them afterwards.

Lol your kidding right Did you even watch the show? They didn't jump at the opportunity Elijah/Freya realized at that point they had no choice. Secondly Klaus/Hayley were against telling Elijah they needed to find another way. So if anyone should take the blame for the decision its Elijah not Klaus. Either way Marcel should've realized Davina played a part in her demise. She pissed off the ancesotors by helping him punish witches. Instead he gets mad at the Mikelseans like if they took joy in killing her. They have had plenty of reasons to kill her over the past 3 seasons with all the plotting she has done against them yet they spared her out of respect for Marcel. Marcel should've understood they literally had no choice. he would've done the same thing if he was in that situation.
Step 1 - pick up a phone, call Kol
Step 2 - Kol vamp speed over, they save Davina, use a different witch whose death wont piss allies off
Step 3 - stop Lucien.

Between figuring out they could use Davina to actually using her, they had plenty of time to do that ^.

They had no time to spare Klaus/Hayley where in danger and couldve been killed by Lucien any minute. Sacrificing Davina was a quick rash decision to stop Lucien before he could do any damage.

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Sacrificing Davina was a quick rash decision to stop Lucien before he could do any damage.


Key word being rash.. lot of rash decisions. Which caused them a lot later... probably will continue to make them suffer in s4 too.



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Can't stand Marcel, should have died with the rest of his troop in season one.

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 His character arc should be over. I only hope they don't pull an Alaric, kill him off and bring him back as normal vampire just to keep him on the show.



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At this point can we just kill off everyone whose last name isn't Mikaelson?

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They're starting to repeat his character cycle, so yes, he needs to go.

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How is that a repeat of his character cycle?

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He's in the exact same plotline and character state that he had during S1

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The motivation is different.

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Not really. We know from spoilers that Marcel is keeping Klaus so he can prod him for information on ruling the city, so Marcel's goal is same as it always was. He wants to be the king.

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You mean he does not have reason to take revenge on Mikaelson or use them?


We know from spoilers that Marcel is keeping Klaus so he can prod him for information on ruling the city, so Marcel's goal is same as it always was. He wants to be the king.


That does not prove that he wants to be the king but most likely that is where the story will go. It could just mean that he wants to keep NOLA safe and for that he needs Klaus's advice which I believe that he still values. He among everyone has the most sincere feelings for the city. He was the only one who was trying to keep the city safe for the city not for himself, not for his daughter, not for his family but for the city.

I think after watching three seasons and his devotion to the city he deserves to be the king and as it has already been pointed out by many that Klaus had decided to stop running for the king position (not me though) and Marcel knows that since he even told him so there is nothing to prove. It is just to keep the city safe and Marcel whatever he is, he acknowledges Klaus power and he gives importance to his advice.

In season 1 Marcel just wanted to get rid of Mikaelsons because he wanted to be the king. IN his eyes they came and tried to take his town. This time he is doing it because Mikaelson dont really care about anyone else in NOLA, just them so why should he not want to get rid of them? It is not about being a king for him anymore IMO. It is much bigger than that.


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That does not prove that he wants to be the king
You capture the Klaus and pry out information on how to be king of NOLA because... you DON'T want to be king? I mean, Plec is an incompetent hack, but I don't think she's THAT clueless. The logic doesn't even make sense, which would make it even more important for Marcel to die.

And honestly, who cares if the motivation is slightly different? Davina's changed some too, but every season and every episode, that stupid girl had the same dull and tedious plotline over and over and over. It really makes no difference to me if she wants to kill Klaus for killing Tim or because he didn't resurrect Kol. It's the same story either way

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And honestly, who cares if the motivation is slightly different? Davina's changed some too, but every season and every episode, that stupid girl had the same dull and tedious plotline over and over and over. It really makes no difference to me if she wants to kill Klaus for killing Tim or because he didn't resurrect Kol. It's the same story either way


ummm Elijah actually killed Marcel.... It is not just about what he did to Davina...

He has reason to hate Mikaelson... Definite reason.

I hated Davina and was very happy to see her go finally- but what Elijah and Freya did was very wrong.


You capture the Klaus and pry out information on how to be king of NOLA because... you DON'T want to be king? I mean, Plec is an incompetent hack, but I don't think she's THAT clueless. The logic doesn't even make sense, which would make it even more important for Marcel to die.


Klaus gave the keys to the city to Marcel. They have not had that issue of who will be king for the past whole season. The circumstances under which KLaus was captured were totally different. IT had nothing to do with running for the king of the city. KLaus gave himself up without any fight. Marcel does not have to prove himself to be a king. He has defeated Klaus. And deep down he knows that Klaus didnt put up any fight and that is why he was not happy with his victory in the end...

I don't know what you mean by the bold part...


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