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Cami was Klaus's Conscious

posted 8 years ago by ThinkBfourUSpeak
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I remember one of Leah's interview way back at the start of season 3. I didnt get it at that time but I get it now, I think

Klaus already knows what is right and what is wrong. He knows he wants to be good for his daughter. He knows that he has to be nice to his family. He knows that he wants Hayley happy. But he hides behind this mask, wanting people to believe that he is bad. He thinks showing kindness makes him weak but we know that he is capable of good. We knew it back when he was in Mystic Falls. But he has never expressed his desires by his own mouth, his desire to be a good father to Hope or wanting Hayley's happiness or wanting to treat Elijah and Rebekah nicely. All of these desires we hear from Cami's mouth. I think she was there to express his conscious to audience and to give Klaus affirmation of his thoughts. Most of the advice she gives him he already knows e.g. the one she gave him about Hope before dying, her telling him "happy mom, happy dad, happy baby" when Klaus had already given Hayley her dream wedding. I have more examples but these two are only from the top of my head.

I think when she turned vampire she realized that she dose not need to change Klaus. He already knows all those things. He was perfect the way he was.

Now that Cami is gone, there is no one to assert him of his good thoughts. That will be a challenge for him. Having another person backing up your thoughts can be great affirmation.

Thoughts?

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[–] D_Stormborn 8 years ago

Hence the return of Hope out of her pampers and able to communicate. She will finish what Camille started, so Klaus will be worthy for Caroline .

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[–] ThinkBfourUSpeak 8 years ago

She will finish what Camille started, so Klaus will be worthy for Caroline .

Of course.

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[–] TearTheStarsOutFromTheSky 8 years ago

Ewww wtf
How about her worthy for him? All she does is use him.

[–] Amethyst-El 8 years ago

As if Caroline is so amazing. She slept with almost every male in TVD and even lived with two, and got engaged. I don't like this version of her but I loved her when she had her humanity off.

[–] D_Stormborn 8 years ago

Of course you wouldn't say that about a male slut like Damon. Caroline was raped in season 1, dated a complete *beep* in season 2, found someone better but got dumped and had ONE nookie before hooking up with Stefan two (!) years later.

All that in six years.

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[–] ThinkBfourUSpeak 8 years ago

I know what you mean. I dont get why women are seen promiscuous but men are not with same kind of attitude towards relationships...

She deserves her happiness with Stefan now. He makes her happy. She wants him unlike her never really wanting Klaus. I hope Damon and JP are not going to ruin it for her and him too for that matter but if Stefan is willing to sacrifice his happiness for his loser of a brother than he definitely does not deserve her.

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[–] D_Stormborn 8 years ago

They just showed Stefan killing chidren on Christmas in Monterey. Nobody comes back from that. So no, I don't see much happiness for Caroline in MF.

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[–] ThinkBfourUSpeak 8 years ago

flashback or in future?

So you think that was all setup to break them apart?

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[–] D_Stormborn 8 years ago

It was a flashback to his famous ripper days, a memory Sybil took from him bc they met back then. But you know Stefan, if he comes back in humanity ON mode, there will be moping at least.

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[–] ThinkBfourUSpeak 8 years ago

the moping is a given but that does not mean that he and Caroline will not get their happily ever after now, does he?
Do you really think that they are setting her and Klaus up ?

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[–] D_Stormborn 8 years ago

No, that's wishful thinking, I just think Klaroline would be a fun to watch couple. How much would he take from her, and would she clash with Hayley over parenting?

The TV show Angel had a stint where a badass blond beautiful vampire came back into Angel's life and was used by bad guys to control him. I loved that bit, but it didn't last very long.

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[–] ThinkBfourUSpeak 8 years ago

The TV show Angel had a stint where a badass blond beautiful vampire came back into Angel's life and was used by bad guys to control him. I loved that bit, but it didn't last very long.

Yeah I really dont want to see that happen, another damsel in distress. Didnt we get that bit with KC2? They tried to get to him through her but they really couldnt!

I think the only people through which they can get to Klaus is his blood family and Hayley. He was forced on his knees after all because of Hayley...

No, that's wishful thinking, I just think Klaroline would be a fun to watch couple. How much would he take from her, and would she clash with Hayley over parenting?

Their bitchiness towards each other would be interesting. I liked their bitchiness towards each other in TVD esp that "yeah I dont do the teen drama" bit. But Caroline has no jurisdiction on Hope's parenting; she is not her mother or even close to that so she has no right on getting that clash. Hayley doesn't even allow klaus to have a say so on Hope's parenting, imagine her doing that with Caroline !

BTW did you read the spoiler about Hope getting her dark powers from Klaus?

https://twitter.com/theoriginalsaaf/status/811234964444508164

I wonder if they are talking about his untapped witch powers or just his dark side?!

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[–] tmrhgrvs 8 years ago

Hayley doesn't even allow klaus to have a say so on Hope's parenting

Hayley lets Klaus have a say, it was he who thinks hes the only one allowed to have a say. At least in season 2 thats how it was. With Klaus in control Hope would need constant body guards because his stupidity (killing people and leaving their loved ones to suffer and later get revenge) puts a target on her. Plus if she got a f in school even if it's her own fault he'll kill the teacher, scaring her even more. Whereas with Hayley she'd have a better chance of a normal life. Or as normal as it could get.

[–] ThinkBfourUSpeak 8 years ago

Hayley lets Klaus have a say, it was he who thinks hes the only one allowed to have a say.

When did she do that in season 3? I know there has not been really a incidence where he had to make a decision for Hope but since you said that she lets him have a say so I am curious. The general impression is that she is the one in charge of all decision making for Hope which generally is true for most mothers. ... And really, Klaus had not really earned that right till the mid of season 3...

With Klaus in control Hope would need constant body guards because his stupidity (killing people and leaving their loved ones to suffer and later get revenge) puts a target on her.

That is not just on Klaus. Elijah has enemies too. The whole season 3 was in fact mostly about Elijah's enemies. The strix and trinity were basically upset with Elijah not Klaus (only Lucian had beef with Klaus). Hoep not getting any target on her back in season 3 was the writers' way out. It was not at all realistic. IF they had focused Aurora's jealousy or others trying to get revenge of Mikaelson by targeting Hope rather than Cami for half of the season, the trinity and strix would have been dead by episode 5 rather than episode 19 along with Cami's death as a collateral.

If Klaus was such a collateral then Hayley wouldnt have decided to leave with Klaus in e16... His enemies are not just confined to NOLA.

Plus if she got a f in school even if it's her own fault he'll kill the teacher, scaring her even more.

I know it is a standing "joke" but I highly doubt that.

As for being scared, If Hope is anything like her father as the spoilers are hinting then she will not be scared. In fact they have more reasons to be scared of her than her of them.

Whereas with Hayley she'd have a better chance of a normal life. Or as normal as it could get.

That I can agree on to some extent. It is not like Hayley does not have ANY enemies. We will see how "normal" her life has been when the show comes.

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[–] cocogurl-95192 8 years ago

I don't think Caroline is a slut, but I also don't think she's someone that Klaus has to try to be worthy of anymore. At this point, none of the MF gang have any business claiming moral superiority over the Originals.

[–] fernandes-clarice 8 years ago

I don't think Caroline is a slut, but I also don't think she's someone that Klaus has to try to be worthy of anymore. At this point, none of the MF gang have any business claiming moral superiority over the Originals.

I also believe that at this time no one is more holy or demon or superior morality to be deserving of that person or that other person.

But we have specs or levels of morality that exist between the characters, and in our perception the Originals still stand as dubious ethics and morals in comparison to the TVD gang.

Here what I mean is that Caroline will finish the series with Stefan (they will have obstacles by then), but they will undoubtedly end up together, for they love each other, as well as Damon and Elena.

It is easier for Klaus to finish the series alone (single) with the love of the family and the daughter or to resurrect Camille for him to live the love that they could not live or something more absurd that is to invent someone new for him to have somebody or end the series even dying.

He finishes the series with Caroline is almost certain not to occur, since there is no indication that this will occur or will occur since in TVD, the actors (Candice and Paul) the producers and people involved in the series love Steroline.

[–] ThinkBfourUSpeak 8 years ago

It is easier for Klaus to finish the series alone (single) with the love of the family and the daughter

I think this scenario looks more and more likely because I really dont see Caroline and Klaus ending up together; there is not much development so far not to mention that she does not even like him. I dont see them resurrecting Camille just because they gave her such a elaborate goodbye with deep meaningful dialogues. Bringing her back will just reverse every impact her death had on all characters esp Klaus.

I can easily see him smiling in that last scene looking down at his family happy; Hayley dancing with / kissing Elijah, Hope and Marcel talking about something funny, bonding over their father.

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[–] UseYourHeart 8 years ago

I dont see them resurrecting Camille just because they gave her such a elaborate goodbye with deep meaningful dialogues. Bringing her back will just reverse every impact her death had on all characters esp Klaus.

And JP would never do that.

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Never.