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This is why nobody watches NBC anymore


They have no patience with their shows. They don't give them time to grow or find their identities.

Imagine if Seinfeld came out now days. It was notoriously a mixed bag its first couple seasons, but NBC let them find their voice and now its one of the most classic, famous sitcoms of all-time.

I wish they'd have given Believe more of a chance to find itself. Instead, they throw it on a "death spot" of Sunday night and let it die.

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I agree. I've seen critiques that claim Believe wasn't an original storyline but NBC's new shows for next season are more police, FBI, and medical shows. How are those original? At least Believe was different from anything on currently giving those who wanted it options to the cop, FBI, medical shows.

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"How are those original? At least Believe was different from anything on currently giving those who wanted it alternative to the cop, FBI, medical shows."

I'd like to second that statement! The only thing adult and older audiences had for themselves were FBI and Cop shows until Believe came along.

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What I find ironic is they announced that NBC won the ratings war for the season. Yep, NBC took first place among networks for the 2013-2014 season, it seems. Which surprised me because so many people I know say they don't watch NBC anymore and most NBC shows seem to get cancelled (or have low ratings), a la Believe.





Hope you're apple pie is freakin' worth it!

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What I find ironic is they announced that NBC won the ratings war for the season. Yep, NBC took first place among networks for the 2013-2014 season, it seems. Which surprised me because so many people I know say they don't watch NBC anymore and most NBC shows seem to get cancelled (or have low ratings), a la Believe.


That's only because of The Voice and Sunday Night Football.

I'm gonna need a hacksaw

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NBC, and all other networks, have only adapted to today's world of instant gratification. Back with Seinfeld came out you didn't have the Internet and a million other ways to gauge viewer response, nor were there an additional thousands of ways to watch shows. The options for today's viewers were in fathomable to networks and the public just 15 years ago. It's all about keeping up with the Joneses. Even aside from the networks is the advertisers who fund the production, if they can see in an instance how poorly 1 episode is being received, then they'll pull their product and advertise elsewhere. Yes, the networks seem like the bad guys here because its easiest to blame the logo in the corner of the screen but there's so much more at work here. If a network had there way EVERY show of theirs would last forever and never need to cancel and replace shows every year, they don't do this because they like to fire people and lose money, they do this because it's the name of the game now.

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iDavid,

I have two words for you,

Harry's Law.

NBC pulled this show because it skewed toward older audiences.

This show was Number one in it's time slot for NBC at the time it was pulled.

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Simple, exactly what you said, it had a much older audience. The 18-49 demographic is what sells a show to advertisers. A show pulling a 2.0 or below with 90% 18-49 has superior odds of survival over a show pulling 3-4.0 with 20% 18-49. Viewers take all this personally but it's all just business. Side note with Harry's Law in particular another thing factored into survival is budgeting, and even though Kathy Bates preached about her fans needing to save the show, when NBC asked her to take a pay cut she wouldn't

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It sickens me that all these network idiots care about is advertising money. This is yet another great show that has been cancelled with Deport Lindo who plays Milton, anybody remember "Chicago Code"? That was another great show that only had one season. People need to stop watching this network. Spread the word guys !

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"People need to stop watching this network."

I only STARTED watching this network cuz of "Believe."

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that proves my point, why should Kathy accept a pay cut? It's not like that on any show/network, NBC included. Harry's Law was doing well for it's age group that was watching. Even Kathy made a snide remark in one episode, saying she wished she was 49 again.

Law and Order:SVU renewal was held up because of disputes over pay.

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I have to put my two cents into the Harry's Law topic. The show's first season was phenomenal. It was witty, had amazing acting, and was quite fun. It reminded me of Boston Legal (by the way I am 26 years old). However, they changed the setting of the story from the show store and to be frank I didn't like that. The whole point was the setting. She had quit big name law for little town law. So even I let it go.

As for the person that made the comment about Kathy Bates not accepting the pay cut. Why should she? Were any of the producers or network execs or anyone behind the lens? She was the star of that show. Just like James Spader is for his. Why should so sacrifice when no one else wants to?

"Light Up, Light up, as if you had a choice"

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I have to put my two cents into the Harry's Law topic. The show's first season was phenomenal. It was witty, had amazing acting, and was quite fun. It reminded me of Boston Legal (by the way I am 26 years old). However, they changed the setting of the story from the show store and to be frank I didn't like that. The whole point was the setting. She had quit big name law for little town law


^agreed, I do believe that the show lost some fans/credibility with the change

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I agree with the OP. I don't watch NBC at all any more only started again (using TIVO) I watch GOT on sunday live. The have lost my trust in every area that matters.
(News, programming choices)

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