I think this was one of the best episodes out of the whole season. There's actual plots that make sense and have important ties to the characters and the organization, Bo wasn't a meandering brat, Tate was more than a useless tagalong, and in the end the characters were not exactly where they started. If they'd only made the whole season more like this, the show probably would still be on. Oh well, there's at least hope that it would go out on a high note.
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1. Bo as a character has fallen apart somewhat. She's lost much of what makes Bo, Bo.
2. The confrontation with Skouras should have happened onstage in front of the audience. With witnesses, it would brought home the point that Bo and Tate want him to leave them alone. It would have also started people asking questions as why these two are confronting him. It would made the Penthouse scene pointless. It also made everything that Bo and Tate did before (messing with the security, etc,) pointless.
3. The Penthouse scene, period. Bo and Tate ran outside but they were actually behind a mirror thing INSIDE the room???
4. At this point, in the Penthouse, Bo should gone have after Skouras Hit Girl/Kick Ass style to push the point home that enough is enough. The ironic thing is that Skouras now realizes that he has a serious problem with Dani, and if Bo had turned on him also, he would have been even more desperate.
1. If you mean Bo was more focused on a task rather than all wandering over the place and whining about how she needs to save random people, then yes, but I never found that endearing in the first place. It's also one of the many reasons the show didn't get much of a following either. The Bo we got last night was more of someone I would follow.
2. Then security would have been on them in seconds, Bo would be back at Orchestra and Tate would be back in jail. Great. Now, what would you have them do for the rest of the episode?
3. Yeah, that didn't really make much sense to me either. And to make it worse, the writers just waved it way without explanation. err! Didn't say the episode wasn't without it's flaws, just that it was better than most.
4. Wait, you were just complaining Bo "lost much of what makes Bo, Bo" but now you wanted her to go Carrie on Skouras' ass? You can't have it both ways. I don't mind that she's growing up and acting a bit more mature, but what you're asking for is shredding everything that makes Bo, Bo.
My point is that the show should have had a plan and it should have been more in the forefront, like it was in this episode. Instead it had the characters aimlessly wondering around and achieving nothing for half the season. Sure, they could have started there, but then quickly moved on. The characters should have been acting rather than reacting: reacting to the police, reacting to Skouras, reacting to Bo's wild tangents.
4. Wait, you were just complaining Bo "lost much of what makes Bo, Bo" but now you wanted her to go Carrie on Skouras' ass? You can't have it both ways. I don't mind that she's growing up and acting a bit more mature, but what you're asking for is shredding everything that makes Bo, Bo.
--->not necessarily. If you've built characters for stories, and understand character integrity, then you spot things that most people wouldn't. Earlier in the series, she pushed back on lot of issues, and she had her own identity. She disagreed on some things, challenged Tate, and let him know about it. That's completely gone away. The problem is that the old Bo, might have reacted very differently to Skouras in the penthouse. Think back to the scene in the bus station when she blew out the windows. Skouras keeps pushing Bo harder and harder, the old Bo would have eventually had enough of it. The new one, while making an adult decision (she had made the right decision, no doubt about it, and it most cases, it would have worked),but didn't handle it right, and as a result, the whole thing fell apart. It was an empty threat.
2. Then security would have been on them in seconds, Bo would be back at Orchestra and Tate would be back in jail. Great. Now, what would you have them do for the rest of the episode?
---> the thing is they could pretty much blown off the entire messing with the security thing, gone directly to the penthouse, with someone spotting them and letting Skouras know. Skouras wouldn't be stupid enough (though I have my doubts) to try something with a crowd there, and them walking in would definitely shake him up.
The show works best when it focuses on the main characters and central storyline.
Whenever they go off to "help an innocent stranger," it kind of kills the show, because it feels to similar to other shows (Person of Interest, Burn Notice, etc.) and very forced.
It sucks it got cancelled. It needed a little retooling, maybe, but it could have been a hit.
I agree here Simply.
It didn't need THAT much work to be successful.
Yep. They should have simply focused on developing the characters and the central plot. At its core, Believe had an interesting story, and could even had a more complected plot structure if it had the right guidance and strong writers. Sadly, it had neither.
Burn Notice at least manged to juggle episodic and long term plot arcs. It *might* have been possible for Believe to do it as well, but it would require a plausible reason. Michael Weston from Burn Notice did odd jobs for money and/or payback, Believe gave us no reason at all. However, in the last episode or so we got glimpses of what Bo sees, which would have helped tie things together much more. Bits of dreams and visions. Maybe they should have taken some clues from Medium on how to portray psychic abilities.
All we got was glimpses of what the show could have been. And sadly that's all we'll ever get.
No, what we had in the beginning was Bo challenging Tate and Tate pushing back but eventually caving in, or Bo running off to do whatever she wanted anyway and putting everyone at risk. This time, Tate simply caved in right away. They did however work together through the rest of the episode. I know it had to take awhile for the two of them to get where they could trust one another, as it should, but it's an improvement nonetheless.
Also, Bo is becoming more in control of her abilities. Skouras simply correlated them with her emotional state had pushed her buttons to get the results he wanted without concern for her physical or emotional wellbeing. That's the Bo we had when the show began. Winter on the other hand had been treating her with care and compassion to show her how to use them calmly and rationally without the emotional stress. That's how we got the Bo we have now. If you prefer the moody, irrational, *beep* Bo from the beginning of the show, that's your prerogative.
Going on stage to confront Skouras, no matter how they played it, would have been a disaster. Even if he didn't make a move on two fugitives in front of a crowd that would have recognized them from the news, he still would have had every exit from the auditorium and hotel locked down before they could get out. And no, playing cat and mouse with security would have been a failure as well. Their plan seemed to be forcing Skouras to make a quick exit on a specific route that they could control without him or his goon squad knowing what was going on, which they did successfully.
As for their endgame, I agree they left empty handed. They needed leverage to force Skouras to back down, and they had it too. They knew what his operation was and where it was located. They could have threaten to expose him and destroy everything. Instead they went in with nothing and left with less. Well, at least they had a *plan* for once.
Also, Bo is becoming more in control of her abilities. Skouras simply correlated them with her emotional state had pushed her buttons to get the results he wanted without concern for her physical or emotional wellbeing. That's the Bo we had when the show began. Winter on the other hand had been treating her with care and compassion to show her how to use them calmly and rationally without the emotional stress. That's how we got the Bo we have now. If you prefer the moody, irrational, *beep* Bo from the beginning of the show, that's your prerogative.
Going on stage to confront Skouras, no matter how they played it, would have been a disaster. Even if he didn't make a move on two fugitives in front of a crowd that would have recognized them from the news, he still would have had every exit from the auditorium and hotel locked down before they could get out. And no, playing cat and mouse with security would have been a failure as well. Their plan seemed to be forcing Skouras to make a quick exit on a specific route that they could control without him or his goon squad knowing what was going on, which they did successfully.
And exactly how long do you think they would have been on stage before security figured out what was going on? Assuming the security was even remotely competent, they would have had every exit from the auditorium closed down in less than a minute. And yeah, the penthouse made no sense either without an exist plan.
If they were smart and had leverage, something that would force Skouras to let them leave, either would have worked.
As for the "degrade", we still don't really know what it is or why it's effecting them. If it only effects people with abilities, then why the need for the biohazard suits? Is Bo somehow special, immune? That would at least explain why Skouras is so damn desperate to get her back. Unless something comes out in the last episode, we'll probably never know.
And exactly how long do you think they would have been on stage before security figured out what was going on? Assuming the security was even remotely competent, they would have had every exit from the auditorium closed down in less than a minute.
As for the "degrade", we still don't really know what it is or why it's effecting them. If it only effects people with abilities, then why the need for the biohazard suits? Is Bo somehow special, immune? That would at least explain why Skouras is so damn desperate to get her back. Unless something comes out in the last episode, we'll probably never know.