Hey Bo describe the girl. Well she's taller than me and has dark hair.
WTF!?!? Just say she's Asian!!! This show made it painfully obvious they were trying to avoid using the word "Asian".
Also, are we supposed to believe Dani is this loyal to Orchestra in such a short amount of time. I'm not buying it. If she can read minds she should know why Zoe was being disloyal to Orchestra.
My suspension of disbelief will only go so far.
I can justify your first point (in my mind, at least) by accepting the premise that having grown up in the environment she did, Bo wasn't predisposed to call out, or really even notice, things like race or nationality. She wouldn't describe Channing first and foremost as 'Asian' any more than she'd describe Winter as 'Black' or 'African-American'. Everyone is completely singular to her because that is how she was brought up. At least that's how I saw it.
However- I totally agree with you about Dani not picking up on things from Zoe, Channing, AND Skouras. She read all three of them, and certainly should have picked up the true nature of Orchestra. Even if - and this is a big 'even if'- Skouras is able to pass off his intentions as 'pure' because at some level he really does believe it, Channing and Zoe have LOADS of memories and feelings that would suggest otherwise. Yes, Dani is obviously unstable due to her background, but if anything I would think that would make her LESS susceptible to Skouras' lies, rather than instantly on his side.
At the end of it all, though, I still think this show gets it right more often than not. Maybe I'm just a big softie at heart, but I always like the 'Bo-changes-a-stranger's-life' plotline, and this week I actually did get choked up a little bit at the resolution. I'd like for them to focus more on that and less on Skouras, to be honest, but maybe they don't want to make it quite so sentimental.
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WTF!?!? Just say she's Asian!!! This show made it painfully obvious they were trying to avoid using the word "Asian".
Also, are we supposed to believe Dani is this loyal to Orchestra in such a short amount of time. I'm not buying it. If she can read minds she should know why Zoe was being disloyal to Orchestra.
No it was not a description, it was a politically correct BS.
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You really think I'm a fan of this show? HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
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I'm just counting down till it's over. As some of the posters here already know, I've never seen a show that screwed up as badly as this one did. I just post here because it's fun to analyze the mistakes and yell at the writers but some of the people are nice and can think along the lines I do.
And I'm not racists and I didn't see it at such and yes, there is political correctness, which I pointed out the first episode. It actually led to many of the problems of this show.
When you have your own show THEN someone MIGHT care what you think.
shareThe problems with this show were numerous.
The ironic thing is that I posted a couple of ways to fix it, and I saw those ideas incorporated "on the sly" but by then it was too late.
Also the Bender response was to the "fanboy" comment. The context was that fanboys just watch blindly, which is not the case, there's some other people here that have been analyzing the issues, theorizing where it might be going, and discussing those theories.
Also, while I'm not going to press it, the new character, "Dani" I'm pretty sure is an older version of MY Danielle from my novel. I've mentioned her a few times here.
The ironic thing is that I posted a couple of ways to fix it, and I saw those ideas incorporated "on the sly" but by then it was too late.
Yes, it did happen.
and Dani, is a older more evil version of MY Danielle from my story, which I've mentioned a few times here.
Here's my original post.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2592094/board/thread/227550516
4. Allow Bo to develop her powers, but have conflict also. This would also allow for the morality banter that's actually quite amusing. But Bo does needs to have real issues about what they are doing.
--->this happened. However, they didn't follow through with it.
2. The bad guys taking a break would give them time to reorganize and strengthen. Get the FBI out of it, it's a dead end. Replace the FBI with something really shady and nasty, who has real plans that's detrimental to a whole lot of people's health if this plan goes through. Then surprise attack at the season end. Show the nasty people's plans as they develop. Keep Winter and Company in the dark about this shady group's actions until it's almost too late. Have Bo sense something is seriously wrong, but is not sure what it is. Toward the final attack, she starts noticing things such as them being tailed and/or observed such as black cars or things seen out the corner of her eyes.(the really nasty guys watching them, getting ready to make their move and Bo is imperative to their plans, they are just biding time till she's strong enough) Rachet up the tension as it gets closer.
---->Parts of this did happen. The FBI did step out for a while, but for some inexplicable reason, were brought back in. The really shady people turned out to be Skouras.
5. Bo needs an attitude change to a degree, example the "blah blah blah" hand motions during the argument about the bathroom in the second episode. However, this might be because she's incomplete as a character. BUT, much of what makes Bo, Bo, can incorporated if done right. She also needs to show some different emotions, it won't hurt to cry every now and then.
---->this happened to an extent also. However, it more or less killed her character.
Lay off the hunt/chase for awhile. Call off the amber alert and let things settle down. Let Bo and Tate develop as characters, the idea of actually helping people in an unusual fashion is excellent (like with the Gold necklace). If you can develop that aspect, it would really take off.
---->again, this happened up to a point.
Alright, I see where you're coming from, I'll give you that. But if it's such "common sense" as you claim, then it shouldn't be a surprise that they started doing all that anyway. It just demonstrates you all know Storytelling 101.
Also claiming Dani is a version of one of your characters doesn't mean anything. A lot of people claim the same thing, that their characters were copied. It doesn't mean they copied you, it doesn't mean you're right.
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Also claiming Dani is a version of one of your characters doesn't mean anything. A lot of people claim the same thing, that their characters were copied. It doesn't mean they copied you, it doesn't mean you're right.
shouldn't be a surprise that they started doing all that anyway. It just demonstrates you all know Storytelling 101.
You really think I'm a fan of this show? HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
"However- I totally agree with you about Dani not picking up on things from Zoe, Channing, AND Skouras. She read all three of them, and certainly should have picked up the true nature of Orchestra. Even if - and this is a big 'even if'- Skouras is able to pass off his intentions as 'pure' because at some level he really does believe it, Channing and Zoe have LOADS of memories and feelings that would suggest otherwise. Yes, Dani is obviously unstable due to her background, but if anything I would think that would make her LESS susceptible to Skouras' lies, rather than instantly on his side."
EXACTLY!
If she was able to read Channing's mind so deep that she knew that Zoe was a traitor, then she should know why Channing quit and opposed Skouras, and why Zoe was being a "traitor." Wouldn't she then try to escape as soon as she read Channing's mind and saw what Orchestra was REALLY about?
But 99% of the show has major plot holes like this.
If she was able to read Channing's mind so deep that she knew that Zoe was a traitor, then she should know why Channing quit and opposed Skouras, and why Zoe was being a "traitor." Wouldn't she then try to escape as soon as she read Channing's mind and saw what Orchestra was REALLY about?Why do you assume she has to disagree with what Orchestra is about? She is obviously mentally unstable, so maybe she thinks it is a great project. share
Why do you assume she has to disagree with what Orchestra is about? She is obviously mentally unstable, so maybe she thinks it is a great project.
I agree too. Unlike Bow, Dani grew up with her powers alone in a society that didn't understand her, so she spent at least two years being a urban hermit and self honing her powers. With Orchestra she finally found a place that not only understands her but has a purpose for her. For someone who has a dark side and doesn't mind hurting people for personal gain, being a secret weapon for the world's most powerful military would sound pretty cool!
shareExactly and furthermore why didn't Channing use Dani to her benefit by allowing Dani to read her purest thoughts on Orchestra. Hell at least have a conversation with her in their thoughts or something.
shareI liked the show too even tough it was not well done.
I thought it was off , now I see it is back on for final 3 eps thru # 12.
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I bet Dani ends up helping Winter somehow but right now she's hiding her true motives...for some reason I think that's going to happen but it looks like they don't have many episodes left to pull that off so I don't know.
shareShe was taller than her and she did have dark hair. Dont make such a big deal about NOTHING.
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Yea that is what I thought. They avoided Asian entirely. Of course they didn't mind using the stereotypical Asian tiger mom that puts a bunch of pressure on their kids.
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This show is about the best this season had to offer so you're either visually impaired or just searching for response like mine. Served.
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You completely missed the joke due to your own issues. She was being intentionally vague, being as generic as possible to describe the girl they needed to find. The punchline came when already knew the girls name.
Dani was not loyal to Orchestra. She just wanted a place to belong. Denial is a powerful emotion.
What about the fact they cannot disguise themselves other then using a baseball cap. He shaved his head so thats something, but has long hair so tie it up in a bow instead of down and everyone still recognizes her with a cap on. She also doesnt speak up to help her own situation. She could of just played it up as yeah ive seen the pic but Im not her. Yes she young but shes suppose to be smart and she is just deer in the headlight.
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