It seems that all the students there were males. Not just in Fletcher's class, but also the previous one, that Andrew was in prior.
Does Fletcher not accept female students for some reason? Not that it matters, I was just curious and found it odd.
In Andrew's previous class, there was a girl. Fletcher even made a comment about her, something along the lines of asking her if she was only first chair because she was cute.
shareAlso in the band at the end you can see at least one girl.
shareBut there were no women students in Fletcher's actual class that Andrew was in, which I found odd.
I mean if there were women students in his class, would he treat them the same as the male students, or do you think he would be nicer to the women students?
If he wanted to push a woman student to try harder, would he treat her the same as Andrew and slap her in the face, and tell her if she didn't get it right, he was going to "f@#k you like a pig", like he told Andrew, or do you think he would have been nicer to women students?
If I am remembering correctly they were all male students, i didn't think I have ever seen one female student in the class, not sure if it was an all male college, or if there was no females interested in music. And I am not sure how they would even be able to handle Fletcher for a teacher.
shareWhat if they made Andrew a female character though? I think it may have been an interesting dynamic to show a female character being bullied and abused by a music teacher, and then rise to be a musical prodigy out of it.
What do you think?
I don't think Andrew could have been a woman. If that were the case, I think the audience would have a much harder time with Fletcher's abuse. It would be an interesting dynamic, but I think it would have just alienated audiences. By the characters being 2 men, we're able to see just how far the rabbit hole goes when it comes to Fletcher and his actions.
shareBut I think that a woman willing take the abuse, and then coming out on top and proving herself, would have been more powerful. With two males, it feels like they are playing it safe, and afraid to go there.
Audiences would be alienated but they wouldn't be able to stop talking about the movie, and they would keep rewatching it as a result. I think it could grow on people as long as the woman comes out strong at the end, like Andy did, no?
You make an interesting point, and yes, that would have taken the movie in an interesting direction. Personally, I think the male dominance dynamics were key to the success of the movie, but that's just my thought. As for your interpretation of the end, I don't see it as Andrew overcoming Fletcher, but rather succumbing to his tactics and essentially sacrificing his humanity.
shareWell when I say Andrew coming out on top, I don't mean overcoming Fletcher. I mean coming out on top for himself, being the best he can be.
shareBut I think that a woman willing take the abuse, and then coming out on top and proving herself, would have been more powerful. With two males, it feels like they are playing it safe, and afraid to go there.
Ugh, why do women HAVE to be included in EVERYTHING? Can't a story simply be told? Mind you, I hate poorly written female characters, appreciate the good ones and love a strong female lead. But a story about two men in an self-destructive ego driven dick measuring contest containing male leads doesn't really come off as that opportunity. To be honest, Fletcher probably didn't ever pick women to be in his ensemble anyway, either because he didn't like them or they weren't good enough in his eyes. He was fair in the beginning when he was having the music students "audition" on the spot for him. I doubt he would have treated her any differently...that is until she does what all women in a male dominated area do: Cry above his head and get him fired and have the men in the room castrated to suit her sensibilities.
"Let's get out of here before one of those things kills Guy!"
I know this post was from 4 years ago...but THANK YOU! A million times THANK YOU!
shareI think other bands/classes would've a female students. The studio band/Fletcher's class is definitely a very hard environment, almost like a military class or even more to the extent of abusive. It's pretty realistic that Fletcher himself prefers male students so that at least they could take his "words" without a some "drama".
shareIf they had made one of the other drummers a girl that would've changed the dynamic completely and made the film much more intense
shareNot in Fletcher's class. This is classic hyper-male homo-eroticism. Since he go around humping them all, he explodes in anger, demeans, and throws things at then. Also, nothing is ever good enough!
Someone's at the door
Women don’t fall for that alpha male, drill sergeant, daddy-never-praised-me-enough style of training. All the students in Fletcher’s class needed that kind of validation.
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