CGI fire and smoke


It looked pretty bad. Would it have been really that difficult/expensive to create a real fire for that one scene?

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And cause it to really spread risking people's lives just for a movie, not worth it for a 1 minute of film.

"Some of the worst things imaginable have been done with the best intentions"

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C'mon, there are ways to prevent that from happening. They've already done it a million times in the history of cinema.

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Didnt actually notice it was bad cgi. Unimportant to the film so doesn't really matter.

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You clearly haven't been to west Texas. Starting a wild fire out there is insanely stupid. Everything is very dry, which means it will burn easily. Couple that with strong wind (yes, West Texas has strong wind), and you've got a uncontrollable wild fire.

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All it takes is a bit of wind and you'll have a full blown grass fire on your hands which is harder to control.

"Some of the worst things imaginable have been done with the best intentions"

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I'm not sure what would have been a better way to do it, but it was not a good choice for this particular film, as the location and the scenery had such an important role in the story, it was almost its own character.

It wouldn't be a huge deal though if it was the only weakness of the movie.

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What was the purpose of the fire and smoke? I must have missed the clue and/or context for it, because it was just a random background thingy to me.

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The fields were burning, and some cowboys tried to keep their herd away from the fire. The animals were just crossing the road, that's how the two police officers bumped into them. One of the cowboys made some comments about how he wouldn't mind being killed by the fire, at least that would end his misery, and how no wonder his kids "won't do this *beep* for living".

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It only had a budget of $12mill. Cut them some slack.

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Look, if you don't have the budget, choose other ways to express the same idea. If you know your money is only sufficient for bad CG, then don't use CG. I believe that a good filmmaker is discerning that way. It was not a good choice in this case. But I don't want to overemphasize it, because there are bigger mistakes a movie can make. I only made this comment, because the look of that scene really took me out of the movie, it was bothering me.

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Well it looks like your the only one, because i haven't heard anyone else complain about something that is so small.
May i suggest don't worry about the small things worry about the big things.

"Some of the worst things imaginable have been done with the best intentions"

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The fact that no one else mentions it doesn't mean it's not true. By the way, I'm not "worried", I simply pointed out something I thought was a flaw in the movie. It's okay to discuss minor issues, as well as the major ones.

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You're entitled to your opinion but saying

The fact that no one else mentions it doesn't mean it's not true.
is a statement that in itself is not true.

You're stating a personal opinion not a fact. That's like saying just because no one else besides you thinks this movie sucks, doesn't mean it's not true.

Personally I just watched it earlier today on my 48in flat screen and didn't realize it was CGI until I read this. I thought the CGI looked pretty good, but just because no one else is talking about how good the CGI was doesn't mean it's not true...

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(facepalm)

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I am usually a huge critique of bad CGI, just watched it again and was not able to tell that it was not real.

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Magyar vagy?? :) Nekem az első pillanatban feltűnt, pedig nem úgy szoktam nekiállni filmet nézni, hogy keresem bennük a hibát.

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Yep, but I don't think speaking other than English here is appreciated.

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That five second explosion scene didnt seem like it was worth the time and effort particularly for this film.

There lies his crown in water deep, Till Durin wakes again from sleep.

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What explosion?

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Weren't you referring to that gasoline explosion scene? 

There lies his crown in water deep, Till Durin wakes again from sleep.

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No, I was referring to the burning fields in the background when the police officers bumped into the cowboys and their herd.

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Oh...my bad.

There lies his crown in water deep, Till Durin wakes again from sleep.

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Oh you mean tanner destroying the truck that was needed because if he didn't distroy it the police would have caught Toby. By fingerprints and blood.

"Some of the worst things imaginable have been done with the best intentions"

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Anyways what was he thinking driving up to the rocky terrain so he could hide and kill every police officer until everyone are gone? lol There are cleaner ways to go than getting himself killed by townies and police. Or maybe he wanted to distract them long enough to buy his brother some time to tend to his gunshot wound?

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Tanner knew he was going to die that day his goal was to protect Toby and lead the townies and police well away from his kid brother. Tanner only ever cared for one thing in his whole life and that one thing was his little brother. He'd do anything for Toby, rob banks, kill, die himself.

He was also a thrill seeker he loved the thrill of the chase, put that with the fact that the only human being he truly cared about was his brother made him even more dangerous.
It's simple why he went up there why he destroyed the truck he wanted to protect Toby but he also wanted to go out in style.

"Some of the worst things imaginable have been done with the best intentions"

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