Birdman


This was a wonderfully acted film. Ever since I saw Michael Keaton in "Clean and Sober," I realized what a subtle and nuanced actor he was. Even in "Mr. Mom," he seems to specialize in men who harbor a sense of self-shame.
Sadly, this is a vehicle that does not make credible use of his talents.
I understand his alter-ego hounding him about his failures as a man within the v.o,
I do not understand his pointing to objects and making them move. The filmmakers would have us think that this movie is about the naturalistic intricacies of a Broadway play, and every time he goes into his dressing-room, the movie goes into an entirely different direction.
The first twenty minutes of the film are absolutely dreadful. The rehearsal process for the play is incomprehensible. Then a fresnel suddenly drops out of the blue and seriously injures an actor that was incompetent in the first place?
Then Edward Norton is called in to replace the injured actor because of his pull on Broadway and his ability to fill seats. Then he appears and he's the most obnoxious and nasty people you'd ever want to meet. Successful Broadway actors, no matter how hot a ticket, would never act like Edward Norton does. This is a lie from the filmmakers. He's arrogant, smug, doesn't take direction........
no one is that irreplaceable on the New York Stage. And if Birdman is smart enough to adapt Raymond Carver to the stage, he must be savvy enough to know that Edward Norton's character is an obnoxious blowhard. Things are just unbelievable(sic) in this movie.
The biggest lie in this movie is the scene in the bar, wherein Birdman confronts the NYT Theatre Critic. lol. This was the most glaring example of the filmmakers posturing for their own purposes I've ever witnessed. In the real world of New York Theatre, NYC theatre critics actually look forward to review plays from Hollywood outsiders! Yet, the filmmakers made her out to be a conniving and nasty bitch on wheels who will"destroy his play," before even seeing it.
And then there's that dreadful scene that is kept performed in front of the audience. WTF this has to do with Raymond Carver remains a mystery. I've read most if not all of Carver and I don't recall a crazy man coming into an apartment spewing nonsensical crap before killing himself. \
And last but not least. When Birdman packs the magazine into the real gun,
wtf was that about?

thoughts welcome

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"I do not understand his pointing to objects and making them move. The filmmakers would have us think that this movie is about the naturalistic intricacies of a Broadway play, and every time he goes into his dressing-room, the movie goes into an entirely different direction."

You mean the filmmakers would let YOU think you have something to expect during the firts 3 minutes of a 2-hour film. If you stop doing that and sit down and watch the film as it's being presented to you, without expecting it to go one direction or another, you will appreciate good cinema a lot more.

"The first twenty minutes of the film are absolutely dreadful. The rehearsal process for the play is incomprehensible."

This statement is even less comprehensible. What is there to understand about 3 people sitting at a table repeating their lines, and a 4th comes in and says his lines, as per the script?

"Then a fresnel suddenly drops out of the blue and seriously injures an actor that was incompetent in the first place?"

Thompson claims right away to have caused it. Which we're immediately led to believe, having seen him levitate 5 minutes earlier. Then, seeing how dubious his superpowers are throughout the film, and how deranged his mind is, an attentive viewer would start to believe he might have actually caused the accident through sabotage. What's so strange about that?

"Then Edward Norton is called in to replace the injured actor because of his pull on Broadway and his ability to fill seats. Then he appears and he's the most obnoxious and nasty people you'd ever want to meet. Successful Broadway actors, no matter how hot a ticket, would never act like Edward Norton does. This is a lie from the filmmakers."

You have met them all, right?
Norton's character is a stereotype. Remember, you were watching a satire. Oh, yeah, right, you weren't. You were watching a superhero movie but didn't like it after 3 minutes and got very upset. Sorry.


"He's arrogant, smug, doesn't take direction........
no one is that irreplaceable on the New York Stage. And if Birdman is smart enough to adapt Raymond Carver to the stage, he must be savvy enough to know that Edward Norton's character is an obnoxious blowhard. Things are just unbelievable(sic) in this movie."

If you are trying to convince people on these boards that douchebag, obnoxious actors do not exist, be prepared: only fools will believe you.

"The biggest lie in this movie is the scene in the bar, wherein Birdman confronts the NYT Theatre Critic. lol. This was the most glaring example of the filmmakers posturing for their own purposes I've ever witnessed."

Riggan Thompson is fighting his ego throughout the movie. That scene is simply there to show what happens when his ego feels threatened. Just like the scene where he confronts his daughter. No one said Thompson was an all-round likeable character. Not every viewerneeds a flawless hero to root for.

"In the real world of New York Theatre, NYC theatre critics actually look forward to review plays from Hollywood outsiders! Yet, the filmmakers made her out to be a conniving and nasty bitch on wheels who will"destroy his play," before even seeing it."

Again, you want to sound like you personally know everyone in Broadway. That only works with fools. Moreover, if you want true stories, read a magazine or the newspaper. This is fiction, satire, and it can do all it wants with stereotypes without having to ask your permission.

"And then there's that dreadful scene that is kept performed in front of the audience. WTF this has to do with Raymond Carver remains a mystery. I've read most if not all of Carver and I don't recall a crazy man coming into an apartment spewing nonsensical crap before killing himself."

Do you remember reading The Shining and then watching the film? I do. It's called an interpretation, not a transposition. Make your own page-by-page Carver play.

"And last but not least. When Birdman packs the magazine into the real gun."

What about it? Your whole thought process about this film is a complete mystery. You know what? "Batman vs. Superman" is coming out soon. That one won't disappoint you.

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what planet are you living on?

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