How about some intellectual honesty: you want Boy Meets World 2.0
Pretty self explanatory. I mean, c'mon man.
sharePretty self explanatory. I mean, c'mon man.
shareFrom reading the board, it's fairly clear that that is the desire of at least some of the fanbase. I imagine that may well be the prevailing opinion of the demographic that the show was pulling in (which was not the demo that the Disney Channel's advertisers wanted--hence the network pulling the plug).
In truth, I get the vibe that that's what the show's creator wanted as well, but he was unable to get anyone else interested in the show other than the Disney Channel, and that necessitated certain changes to its creative vision that left it feeling like a neutered broadcast network show.
It was a Disney Channel show only in so far as he felt he had to compromise it to the point where it would fit. It was always a square peg in a round hole.
On the Disney Channel, it could not be what he had wanted it to be. However, without the Disney Channel, it could not be at all. It was a shoehorn job from the start.
At least, that's how it comes off to me. Mileage may vary.
Of course that's what we wanted. We love the BMW characters and wanted to see their lives as adults. We didn't want a new focus on some annoying little girls. This was always the Cory, Shawn, Topanga and Eric show. They basically deleted half of those characters(Shawn 7 episodes, Eric 3 or 4) and even Cory and Topanga are seldom used outside of being parents/teachers. It's a joke. Why even use any of the old cast if they wanted a completely different show? We wanted, and still want Cory, Shawn, Topanga and Eric as the main cast. The kids can go away. The people who really wanted this show were huge BMW fans. I feel like all GMW did was satisfy a tiny bit of nostalgia, but ultimately made me very sad because it seems like the adults have no lives outside of their children/careers now. If Netflix picks this up, I sure hope Jacobs does it right this time.
shareBasically, Jacobs needs to take a look at Fuller House and realize that it's successful because it focuses on the old cast.
shareWrong. BMW 2.0 was never going to exist. I don't understand why people don't understand that. Most of the original cast was never interested in a BMW 2.0. They moved on. Plus, the show was called Boy Meets World for a reason. It was never supposed to follow around Cory as an adult. Everything was already covered in BMW. He was a boy...he met the world. There was no where else for him to go as an adult. Very different show from Full House. The premise of Full House was about family dynamics. Thats why it can continue the way it did. It wasn't called "Let's follow DJ and Stephanie through Their Childhood". BMW was about watching Cory grow up. Cory grew up. We saw it. The point of its whole premise was completed by the end of the show years ago.
shareSorry if that's what people wanted. Yet, I saw interviews with the BMW cast before they officially made the announcement about GMW. It was clear early on that some cast members were not interested at all in a BMW 2.0. I think that's fair. Some of them really wanted to move on and do other things. I never felt like Ben was totally interested. Rider Strong made it very clear early on he wasn't interested in a BMW 2.0. He had moved on and was doing other things. I thing Danielle was fine either way.
shareThat's pretty much what it boils down to when you look at it.
Betsy Randle barely acted after the end of BMW. I think her appearance on this show was just more of a service to the original fan base. The same can be said of Ben Savage and Danielle Fishel.
Rider Strong and Will Friedle have practically retired from acting. They'd rather write, produce, and direct.
William Russ probably would have wanted to continue his role full-time as Alan Matthews if he was offered.
William Daniels already had a fulfilling career. We should count our lucky stars that he even bothered to reprise his role as George Feeny.
BMW 2.0 never would have happened. They had no choice but to focus on a set of kids.
Michael Jacobs should have shopped it around to another network or streaming service, but he probably thought having it on the Disney Channel would suffice since they were first in line to offer him a sequel.
That definitely backfired in the end.
Betsy Randle barely acted after the end of BMW. I think her appearance on this show was just more of a service to the original fan base.
^ This and the other post is the most intellectually honest thing ever said on this board. Maybe the only thing.
Then you must have missed my post. Never did I mention the return of old cast members being the whole point of "BMW 2.0" being a thing.
However, having Cory and/or Topanga have B-storylines outside of their kids (or letting them be backseat and playing a more genuine father-mother role like Alan and Amy) would have been ideal as well. This show would have fared much better if Cory was not Riley's teacher, and if he was he shouldn't already be in "best teacher" status.
The problem with GMW is everybody was already at their pinnacle by episode #1. Riley was a straight-A student, Cory was a grade-A teacher, Topanga and Auggie were stupendous with their roles, and Lucas was Riley's crush from the very beginning and they are already "endgame" (I believe that's what the kids around here say). There was nothing Riley had to learn from the world, and when she did it rarely came of consequence for her to get there.
This was not BMW 2.0 because it was written entirely differently. That is the biggest issue. We didn't need to see Rachel return regularly for that to happen.
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This is what I wanted. Almost like a soft reboot/continuation. I didn't need the adults to be the stars because this is a show for a new generation. But I would've love if the showed Cory and Topanga going through growing pains as parents. They could have served as grest b storylines. Both of them meeting the world but now as parents. What the kids are going through each episode can be the catalyst to what Cory and Topanga learn as parents.
Each episode besides the multiparters were tied up too nicely in a bow. I was never a fan of Cory being a teacher. I understood the motivation behind this but it screamed to me, "how can we get Ben as many scenes as possible?". I wish they kept him pursuing his dream of being a journalist. So many potential storylines there when you think of it. and if they wanted him to be a teacher, that could've been something to build too.
Of course I wanted that. Who is denying that?
I don't mind if Rowan and Sabrina get the A-storylines, are the main characters, etc. That's what I expected. I expected characters and story structures to be consistent with BMW, though. They aren't even close.
You see, when we spoke of "life lessons" before GMW came out, we never once thought that they would actually say the words "life lessons" on the show. GMW is a show with the commentary track on, only the kids are mouthing the words.
I like the show, but I don't like that it could have been so much more.
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With the old characters, it was was BMW 2.0.
shareWith the old characters, it was was BMW 2.0.
I think this is true. It is my impression that there are a lot of guys that liked Boy Meets World as kids and wanted it to continue with the boys from the original show as the main characters. I just watched Boy Meets World here and there and probably more of the early seasons then the later and i never was a big fan, so for me i came in not really caring all that much about the original cast.
I love Girl Meets World. It is exactly what i want out of a show like this. I think the kids are good and i like the tone. I think the biggest mistake that they made was introducing Shawn and having him marry Maya's mother when that was never really fleshed out on screen. It didn't work and i think that was written in because there was this desire by older people to see the Boy Meets World cast.
I think this show is great. The writing is good and i think that comes because i exist outside of the expectation of wanting Boy Meets World 2.0. Also, i think that some guys who watched the old show just don't know how to watch shows with female leads and so they didn't like it because of that.
I agree totally with your post.
shareI'm not sure if everyone just wanted to follow Corey, Topanga and Shawn around. Some did but what I think wanted was a show that reminded them of their childhood show. Close to a real world, real kids and their adult mentors, real problems. That's just not what you get on Disney or Nick. And I'm not saying Sabrina gets pregnant but kid's shows have a completely different atmosphere to them. The adults are bafoonish, the entire world revolves around that kid's life, the problems they face are mild.
shareThis is how I feel. It just doesn't feel the same. The audience is completely different than that of BMW, which was evident from episode 1. BMW like more of a family show. It had something h for everyone while GMW was geared towards kids.
shareI actually don't think Girl Meets world was geared towards kids. I think that kids wouldn't get it.
Maybe it is just my impression of Boy Meets World, but it did revolve around the lives of the kids. That doesn't mean that the parents didn't ever have things going on in their lives. Getting new jobs, opening a business, whatever those things might be, but that those things were always shown through the lens of what it meant for the kids.
I think Corey is a buffoon at times in Girl Meets world, but he is the only adult that acts like that. He sort of takes the place of Eric who was the buffoon in Boy Meets World. I think that Maya's mother is incompetent at times and just not very smart, but i don't think she acts like a buffoon. Topanga, Shawn, and the other adults and parents that show up now and then were not buffoons on Girl Meets World.
What I don't understand is why people keep blaming disney channel's 'censorship' for the show's failures when the writers clearly are at fault. Disney and Nick have presented plenty of actually decent (even for overall TV) shows over the years. And it is clear from watching that the issue with the show is not the material they have access to, it is the actual writing and directing of the episodes themselves. No channel, including freeform or netflix, would have saved episodes like commonism, stem, etc. They bashed you over the head with awful and unnuanced povs on whatever social issue they felt like tackling and that was it. If they were writing about sex or alcohol it wouldn't have been any different, in fact the quality could have gotten worse.
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