Christmas gift for the "remake" critics

Good call... Although I would compare Finn's water-bag medical device to Luke in the Bacta tank, instead of Han in carbonite. Also I almost added the "alien steeds" to my topic as well when I updated it this morning.

One more you made me think of: Jedi Master (Luke/Yoda) dismissively tossing thing(s) over his shoulder that the apprentice brought along.

So where is the Christmas gift for those of us that loved TFA and only wanted to see a advancement of the story it presented? 🤕 This one felt a bit like a lump of coal...but hey...trump is trying to make coal great again too sooo....😉

The throne room scene has already been done. The Vader-like character already turned against the Emperor-like character and killed him in order to save the Luke-like character.

There's no more Starkiller base and they definitely won't do another one, so that's out. Maz's castle was already a reference to the cantina AND Jabba's palace.

All that's left is the Ewoks, really.

I think 9 will be Abrams making a real sequel to his Force Awakens, and picking up stuff that Rian didn't touch, like the Knights of Ren. Maybe he'll have Kylo being a liar about Rey's parents, maybe not. Maybe Rey was actually the youngest student at Luke's school, and Kylo just couldn't bring himself to kill her, so he took her to Jakku.

Personally, I would do a First Order civil war. Hux was going to kill Kylo when he saw him knocked out in Snoke's throne room, he was reaching for his gun, and the two of them are at odds with each other. It's time for the First Order to split and for the two sides to go at war with each other.

Then Kylo's side will win, but since Leia had died before the movie started and he had secretly watched her funeral, he realizes he has no one left to be angry at. Snoke is gone, Hux is gone, his parents are gone, Luke is gone... He will realize how futile his anger is, and he will give up on the dark side.

This won't help... I added: NEW addition 1/10: The two who go to Cloud City / Canto Bight are imprisoned together while there.


Foebane, I can understand kicking off a new trilogy with something largely familiar, and Phantom Menace was the same way. It's almost a tradition.

However, even though I didn't hate Last Jedi, it really is a missed opportunity to take the story somewhere else. Hell, I remember when the casting for Benicio Del Toro was first announced well over a year ago, and it said that he was the new villain (which was a VERY early spoiler now that I reflect on it! How the hell did that get out?).

I had the impression that the "First Order" was largely destroyed on Starkiller Base, and that the remaining personnel (Snoke, Hux, Kylo) would be working on their own with no "imperial army" behind them. That feeling, coupled with Del Toro as the new villain, seemed very promising at the time.

As for taking the story new places, I kept hearing feedback and reviews on Last Jedi that it's a "new direction" for Star Wars and how it was daring or brave or what not, but I still don't understand why.

It wasn't the subverting of expectations, that was done in Empire with Vader being Luke's father. Rian Johnson even said he wanted to reflect that with Rey, she and Luke both heard the hardest thing they could hear about their parents. Of course, Vader killed the Emperor suddenly just like Kylo did.

I saw a Last Jedi fan on a GeekTyrant comment thread explaining some of the apparent new directions, and they were all descriptions of stuff that had been done in Star Wars in the original trilogy. The only one I remember was that she was marveling at how this movie isn't so black-and-white, good-versus-evil, but explored the shades of gray (Fifty Shades of Rey lol) that the original trilogy apparently ignored.

I pointed out how incorrect that was, how Empire did that and how the redemption finale of Return of the Jedi was literally ALL ABOUT shades of gray.

Oh and fyi, the only thing about formatting I can think of is that quote, italics and bold can only be used once each. If you try using any of them twice, it is messed up.

Url can be used repeatedly.

Is that the kind of problem you were having?

Thanks. I'm glad you posted in the Spaceballs topic too, I was going to ask about that. I was surprised at how solid the few comparisons were. The shield over Druidia compared to Rogue One really makes me wonder if there are intentional homages to Spaceballs in the new Star Wars movies.