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No focus at all, just like Justice League. Films being made for ADHD audiences (SPOILERS)

posted 7 years ago by Geff (453)
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How many plot threads are required per movie nowadays?

- Message about human cost of disobeying authority completely lost in the cacophony of infinite plot threads.

- Kill Leia, but don't really kill her. The Kylo Ren internal conflict drama of killing his mother completely wasted.

- Luke's island life shown in a ridiculous two-minute montage. This is what passes for developing the setting and characters.

- Oh shit I can see Kylo and he can see me suddenly out of nowhere!

- Introduce new random crew plebeian whose sister died during the kamikaze bombing of pearl harbor.

- They chased us because of a tracker on the mother ship. Origin of tracker? Where did it come from? Nobody knows. Yet we have schematics of what it looks like and where it is located.

- New quest acquired. Find codebreaker on a distant random planet. But, forget about the codebreaker halfway through the mission and free the slaves!

- Meanwhile on two-minute-montage-island wax on, wax off, then join the dark side, but not really, but will you? No, not really. This will not end how you think. Also history is just perspectives y'all. Then burn a tree.

- Oh shit, the sith rule of two comes to fruition. Apprentice kills master and tries to acquire new apprentice. This will not end how you think. Btw, does anyone know who that snoke dude was?

- Lightsaber explosion one second, Rey supposedly steals a new order ship off camera and miraculously appears on the millennium falcon the next second. Nice.

- Meanwhile back at the slow motion interstellar vehicular pursuit. This is a coup! Just kidding, I can't even do a coup against a group of aged female bureaucrats without guns. Imma take a nap and abandon ship.

- Meanwhile the quest to destroy the tracker continues. Found junkyard scoundrel as a replacement codebreaker. We got this! No, nevermind they caught us and junkyard scoundrel betrayed us.

- Oh no! The captain/dictator who sank with the ship sank her ship through our hull!

- Let's quickly change setting now to the nearby planet where you get cool footprints that look like blood.

- Oh no, kamikaze mission to destroy the cannon failed, should have let the Jap do it. Black people are terrible at kamikaze. Is that racist?

- Here comes A New Hope! But why does Luke look so young. Fuck it, it's time for epic action scenes!

- Let the people get distracted by the epic action scenes while the Jews flee the cave. Here comes moses to part the rocks, I mean here comes the New New Hope. Millenium falcon is now the new state of Israel.

- Luke says: There isn't enough ATP in my bloodstream. Imma die now, thanks.

- On casino planet the proletariat plot to overthrow the bourgeois. The End.

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This film is like 5 or 6 films in one. Why do filmmakers feel compelled to fit in so many plot threads into one movie nowadays instead of spending time telling a well told story with developed characters and themes.

[–] Frogarama (12942) 7 years ago

"Yet we have schematics of what it looks like and where it is located."

Yeah, that was convenient. Then of course DJ was super convenient until he flipped the script. Gets them out of jail, gets them a ship, gets them to the battle, slips into the shields of a Star Destroyer, miraculously cloaks this random ship from military sensors, and then gets them inside the Star Destroyer all the way to the laundry room LIKE IT WAS A SUNDAY STROLL IN THE PARK.

All that for a huge, time-wasting side plot that went nowhere, contributed nothing to the plot or story, and had a whole "war profiteers" angle that was hinted at and then ditched.

That's such amateur filmmaking.

[–] Geff (453) 7 years ago

They could have done a separate entire movie about Rey's training. There certainly is enough content there. They could have developed the island more (more than a two-minute-montage), luke could have passed on jedi knowledge. Rey could have participated in the Jedi temple trial.

They could have done a separate entire movie about the sith and snoke. Anyone who knows about the sith rule of two already anticipated that in order for Rey to be a potential sith apprentice one person has to die, either Rey, Snoke or Kylo. Whenever there is a new candidate for a sith apprentice either the master kills the apprentice outright or the apprentice kills the master or the new candidate is killed. This competition ensures that only the most powerful master and apprentice are in power. It's a kind of darwinism.

They could have done a separate entire movie about the dictatorship of the Vice Admiral Holdo (pink haired lady) following the power vacuum caused by Leia's coma, and the ensuing coup by Poe.

They could have done a seperate entire movie about the mission to find the codebreaker. They could have developed the planet and the characters more and could have shown the wage gap and the oppression of the proletariat in more detail. The mission to free the proletariat and seize the means of production could have been a more well organized one instead of a willy-nilly spur of the moment activity. Where is all the security at the stables!?

They could have done a seperate entire movie about the events at the refuge island. How did the cannon get down there so fast? They could have shown ongoing war between the rebels and the new order on the planet culminating in the final plot device of the cannon breaking through rebel wall and the clash with luke's illusion and the fleeing of the rebels. All of these events could easily take up an entire movie and give you adequate time to develop the characters in the rebellion.

Instead they chose to mash all these disparate themes and plot

[–] Geff (453) 7 years ago

lines into one really messy cramped film.