Latrease was baiting him


I really couldn't understand why she couldn't seem to understand how big of a difference pictures make. If she's really 25, she acted really immature and young. You deliberately messaged a guy into a specific type of girl and expect him to still be into you, even though you're the exact opposite of that type and he outright said he wasn't attracted to you?

Then she kept asking him why it mattered, why he couldn't love her. It was like she was trying to make him say something mean about the way she looked. We all knew it was because she was big, but I'm glad he kept it cool and was a nice enough guy to remain friends with her.

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Absolutely. He didn't owe her anything. She was playing the pity card. She totally lied about herself, then expected him to like her anyway.

He is a very nice person to continue to stay in contact with her.

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I don't think it was so much that she's big. I'm sure he could get over that eventually. However, the poor woman has the most unattractive face I've ever seen on a female. To top it off, she comes across as incredibly dumb. I feel terrible for her.....

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I'm watching this episode now and agree wholeheartedly.

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I didn't want to be the one to say it, but yes, even if she were a size 4, she would be still be pretty unattractive.

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Exactly. You can be fat but still attractive. I bet if she had a pretty face and maybe even lighter skin he might have considered dating her. I'm surprised people are actually admitting it here. On Facebook when I was reading through the comments everyone was being all PC saying they felt sorry for her like she was the victim... saying that he was shallow for not liking fat girls. It clearly had nothing to do with her weight. He told her flat out that she wasn't his type (he called her UGLY) and he would never date someone like her. She seemed desperate for continuing after that and then asking him for an explanation. Plus she lied about a miscarriage, she'll probably lie about anything.

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YES!!! I feel like for some people like her (big & unattractive) they feel more comfortable claiming the "big" label or the "fat" label because in actuality "big" or "fat" doesn't always equate to ugly. TESS HOLLIDAY is a great example, because while she is obese, no one can say she doesn't have a gorgeous face. So she is a big girl that is not ugly. However, no one wants to claim the "ugly" label because while you can always lose weight you can't really fix the way your face looks (take plastic surgery out of it). I think that's why it was hard for him to actually say the reason, because she kept saying I know you don't like big girls...but in my opinion for him it was that he felt she was ugly which would've been harder for her to hear. I just think it's a little easier for bigger girls to have confidence when they KNOW they have a beautiful face, like Tess, but Latrease probably knows she doesn't.


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Nobody is just a face though. So yes, obese is unattractive. Having a pretty face just isn't good enough, because a face is like what? Maybe 5% of the overall body? Some people might find obesity attractive, but most of us don't. Tess could have the face of Angelina Jolie and I wouldn't touch her with a ten foot pole.

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My heart pretty much broke for her when she said, "why am I not good enough for you?" It's not that she didn't get it, she just desperately wanted to change his mind. But I was glad to hear that they are still friends. I hope she finds happiness.

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The thing with weight is you can always fix it, if Tess lost all of her weight then the people that weren't attracted to her only because of her weight would be...But an ugly face is hard to fix, whether it's 5% of your body or not. If Latrease was thin, I still don't think a lot of men would be checking for her. A body like Beyonce is great, but it's not going to mean much if you have a face like Jay-Z.

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LOL Exactly.

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Here's a point I'm thinking everybody's missing. She's shy, she's self-conscious, she's got low self esteem, but SHE'S CRAZY!

First of all she's the one that put herself in his life with a fake photo and image. THEN she has her fake persona have this guy evaluate her real picture, hears the ugly truth about how he really feels about her looks and keeps acting like she and this guy have something real. To me, if she were a guy we'd be calling her a creepy stalker.

To top it off, she plays the victim card and then when she sees he's not going to be mean to her she tries to get him to look bad on camera by saying what he really feels about her, even though she already knows. That's her trying to continue to control him. She wants him to look bad whole she uses her bad looks to gain sympathy.

She's no pageant winner, but she knew she was going to be filmed and I think she purposely looked her worse to gain more sympathy. She wore no make up and didn't seem to even comb her hair. She may be like that all the time, but I think she's one of those people that resent being treated so badly so much that they emphasize what they're teased about just to demonize people for commenting on it.

Even her best friend knows how she is knew she was doing something crazy. Tyreme shouldn't bother being friends, he should keep away from her. She's very manipulative and would take advantage of his guilt. SHE'S the one that did HIM wrong. Even if he wasn't nice about what he said about her real; pictures, SHE put him up to it. He should not be nice to her any longer.

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Oh yes. She definitely is manipulative. My initial reaction was made during my first viewing of the episode and my mind was reeling from seeing such a physically unattractive woman who is also incredibly dumb. It didn't occur to me, at that point, that she was probably putting on a show for the cameras.

I suppose that somewhere inside she has some kind of beauty, but going by her behavior on this show, she's unattractive inside, which just magnifies the ugliness of her physical appearance. Until she gets that inner ugliness taken care of, she's going to continue to be miserable and alone.

(OT: The "I made the account to get back at my ex" excuse that many catfish use is ridiculous, especially in this case. I don't believe for a second that this girl has ever had a boyfriend.)

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There are women uglier and fatter than her with boyfriends and husbands, but I also think she was lying about that, too. She needs therapy.

She may have had a sad painful life, but that gives her no right to eff with someone else's. I hate that she guilted this guy into a friendship.

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I don't understand people sometimes. Anyone defending Latrease is what's wrong with society. A person's physical appearance is important, but you shouldn't judge everything by just that. Like they say, don't judge a book by its cover. Attraction is the first thing you notice, personality is what you grow to love. First of all, she was a liar. She initially did this to get at her ex, then catfishes him. She asks him how she really looks, then doesn't like his honesty. Something she clearly lacked. He is a nice guy. Why should he have to be guilted into dating her? Because of her insecurities? She clearly doesn't deserve him, and its because of her personality.

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The fact that he's still friends with her mens that she got away with that behavior and is probably catfishing someone else. He should've turned his back on her for good.

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It's not so much that she's unattractive (although, compared to the pictures she had been sending him, that would be a HUGE part of it), but the fact that she LIED to him, then expected him to still have feelings for her.

When she was asking him why he couldn't feel the same about her (or something to that effect), I wanted him to come out and say that she flat-out LIED to him, and that's why he couldn't be with her, not just because of how she looked - which, yes, she was baiting him to say (so she can turn around and play the "woe is me" card).

It was so frustrating that she couldn't get that through her thick head, that she was the one who roped him in and lied to him for all that time. She was the one who was all about looks, the one who was obsessed with it. I do admit that looks DO play a big part in this, and anyone who says otherwise is lying.

She was just overall pathetic. She's got VERY low self-esteem and uses that to make people feel sorry for her (and manipulate them). She's lucky he still decided to remain friends with her.

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also, he was quite short in stature, and she was quite a large woman and very unfortunate looking.

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Why couldn't he just say his truth out loud. If that was the truth, and that's how he feels why was he more concerned about how he would look, then telling the truth. (Which is literally the reason for this whole debacle in the first place) What is he a politician. Especially when you are in a situation that you did not create, and were more so on the victim side, why not just tell the truth, the whole truth, and get it out. You shouldn't be concerned with how it makes you look if it's your truth, because that just makes you look shady. If a fish doesn't want to bite, it's not going to bite, no matter how much "bait," you put in it's path. I don't believe in baiting, either you did, or you didn't, if you did then explain why, whether or not someone else believes you or sees you negatively based on someone else's idea of what you should be is really not of your concern.
"What other people think about you is none of your business..." "...even if you're telepathic."

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I think what a lot of people are not understanding here is why exactly she wanted him to explain why she wasn't good enough for him. I'm not trying to say in anyway that what she did was right or that he should have accepted her given the circumstances.. but I can try to explain why she was pressing him for an answer about why she wasn't good enough. In my opinion if you are a person like her who has been teased and made to feel ugly your entire life, there comes a time when you really do just want to hear someone say the honest truth and just legitimately explain to you what it is about you that is so unappealing that literally almost everyone thinks that you are not good enough. I personally don't feel that she was trying to bait him into saying something mean about her just to make him look like a jerk on TV, I really do just believe that she wanted to finally just hear somebody say what it is that makes it so that she is absolutely unacceptable because of how she looks. But I think this desire to know in itself stems from her low confidence and self hatred. The type of answer she was looking for probably would have been something she would say about herself like "I'm sorry but I'm just not attracted to dark greasy looking obese girls with no figure, I need a girl who will excite me visually and you just aren't pretty". So yeah.. it's easy to understand why he didn't want to answer her, because saying something like that sounds dreadful.. even though sadly that's probably how most people think. Overall I think he handled it well actually. Now what I do think is really messed up is all these people who are saying things like she should be aware that she's soooo ugly that there's no chance that a guy would want her and stuff like that.. that's horrible. Reinforcing her self hatred is just such a terrible thing to do.

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I agree with you, yamichik. I guess she was "baiting" him, but it was self-torture in a way because it was baiting him to say something bad, which would confirm her own self-hatred, and perhaps, yes, prove the point out loud... that what IS making her suddenly instantly undesirable and ruled out is her looks. Like, admit it. Don't try to make it about the fact that she lied, all that. That's true, too, and is wrong, selling a false advertisement for who you are. But in this case, that's not what made the guy drop her as a romantic prospect. A few scenes earlier, when he still thought she was a pretty one (the friend)...even if not the original image, he was saying "Well I know she lied but it still might be worth a chance." UNTIL he saw her. Like Max said, it's too bad that looks do matter so much but it seems, in life, they do. And I feel Latrease just wanted someone to own up and call it for what it damn is. She knew, he knew, everyone knew. But own it. Admit it. People don't like to admit they are shallow, or that the world is shallow, but it is. For better or worse, like Max said, I think that's just how people are "wired." But it is true.

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