This guy Graham is a douchebag - Catfish: The TV Show (2012) Discussion

[–] blacknyellowsquid 8 years ago

Yeah, rather self-involved as far as not thinking how she might be feeling. Keeping someone strung along who has much more intense feelings for you than you do for them is wrong, in my book.

However, he is young too. I did detect a note of surprise, and possibly regret on his face when he saw how actually hurt and angry she was with him. It's like he hadn't given it any thought until she was right in his face. And then he didn't seem smug about it, he seemed taken aback and again possibly remorseful about it for the first time ever. This was when she went back to confront him the second time. Hopefully he learned a lesson for the future.

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[–] abbycatt 8 years ago

I agree. I kind of felt bad for him by the end of the show. He's a teenage boy who hadn't even left his parents yet. Teenage boys typically aren't the best at emotional stuff. Haha. I'm thinking that his feelings for her confused him and he panicked. It can be easy to get attached to someone you spend your days talking to online, and taking that relationship into the real world can be awkward. I imagine it's extra awkward for a teenager!

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[–] Shootsandladder 8 years ago

Graham strikes me a privileged kid who will never have remorse for what he does. He was better looking in his pictures than in real life. I was expecting this athletic type dude to step out, and her was this wanna be frat boy stumbling out of the house.

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[–] FrederickWit 8 years ago

I agree. As they said, he is probably spoiled and sheltered. It is kind of clear that he thought his time was more important than the others.

On the other hand... Honestly, I think the girl was no good either. I hate when people don't look at your face when they talk to you, it shows such a lack of character and disrespect. Furthermore, she was expecting so much, it was like "we date or we don't talk anymore!". I think the guy genuinely meant no harm to her, and he wanted to remain friends.

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[–] lonnie5 8 years ago

What's the big deal that she didn't look into his eyes at all times? She probably felt rather awkward.

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[–] babz12 8 years ago

She didn't have to look in his eyes, but looking in the total opposite direction most of the time was just weird.

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[–] lonnie5 8 years ago

The focus should be on the loser catfish.

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[–] babz12 8 years ago

Hard to when she's acting so strange. Ducking and bending over when they first, it was just like, wait is she going to throw up or what is going on?

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[–] blacknyellowsquid 8 years ago

She was angry and probably humiliated/embarrassed. She told Max or whoever that everything coming out of his mouth was making her extremely angry. I think it's the disparity between what she thought it was (love) and how flippant he was being now, making it, of course, like it was all her reading way too much into it. That is enraging (I've been there before lol) and also probably embarrassing, so she couldn't even look him in the eye. To have him stand there and make it like she was all into him for no reason and not vice versa. She also seemed to be down on herself anyway so I guess between the rage and embarrassment...

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[–] Northerner335 8 years ago

I think that her insecurities were likely a big turn-off to him. Also, there were some pretty big warning signs that she was not the love of his life - he always disapproved of her lifestyle (partying and drinking) and he was always in pictures with "conservative" girls. This may be harsh but when I saw how she was dressed, I knew right away that he would not be a fan. He seems like a wealthy, conservative, Southern boy. I think he was looking for someone to "bring home to Momma", and she was not that girl ... of course, he should have TOLD her that.

Also let's keep in mind that they were scheduled to meet up once before and SHE cancelled. And yes, it was immature of her to not even turn her body toward him when they met. I am wondering exactly what the content of their conversations was. Anyway, I am NOT saying he handled it well - he didn't - but I kind of felt bad for both of them.

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[–] babz12 8 years ago

I wonder how she would have reacted if it wasn't him. The same or would she face her catfisher and yell at him?

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[–] babz12 8 years ago

I just thought it was weird she immediately was hiding/looking away from him before he said anything off-putting. He physically was who he said he was, so there shouldn't have been any "OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE HE IS NOT WHO HE SAID HE WAS!" going on in her mind when he first came out, so there was no reason to act the way she did right away. I get being insecure and shy because I always have been, but she had no reason to be embarrassed or upset before he let her know he didn't really love her the way he said.

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[–] misterbfd 8 years ago

I think her insecurities led her to already expect the worst. That's why she acted/felt the way she did, why she had backed out once before. So I think that she showed up expecting things to go badly while hoping they wouldn't. Sometimes you just can't overcome your feelings, no matter how illogical they may be.

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[–] misterbfd 8 years ago

Total clown. She seemed sweet and was very attractive. A little needy and insecure, but other than that, totally cool.

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[–] Jothos 8 years ago

Are you kidding????? He OBVIOUSLY wanted it to be an Internet thing. And then all of a sudden, this psycho girl he's been talking to, has FLOWN out there with a friggin CAMERA CREW!! And are talking to him?? Yea, so maybe he was a little stand offish. Sue him. Geeze. And then she just stands there as the guys are talkin to him, stroking her hair over, and over, and over, and over again like a dam lunatic. Forgive him if he didn't run to her, and give her a big hug, and say "I've waited so long for this. I'm ever so glad you brought a dam camera crew, from a show about "cat fishing" with you for our first meeting." Sorry, was that what he was supposed to do?? Honestly? He reacted how ANY NORMAL guy his age would have, if some crazy, emotionally needy girl showed up with a camera crew would have. Get real guys. And the hosts?? DOUSCH BAGS to the extreme. This is such a dumb premise for a show! This was the one and ONLY episode I have, and will ever watch. My gosh you guys (and Catherine) are seriously detached from reality. Internet "relationships" aren't the same as "actual" relationships. K?? Cuz people can act anyway they want when they don't think they're gonna meet someone. Should every person who does that honestly have these 2 dorks show up to confront them??

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[–] blondiebear_17 8 years ago

He was pretty immature about the whole thing but he was pretty young and if it had been going on for 2 years already at that point then I can't blame him for not knowing how to act in that situation. I am not sure why it went on for quite so long though? Why put so much time and energy into a relationship even online if it doesn't mean anything to you? You would think that he would have ghosted her or something by then? I think he just wanted an ego boost or something like he clearly knew she was into him and he liked the attention of it all.

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[–] MacRobin92 8 years ago

I don't know what to make of Graham and that girl. I forgot her name. I think he just assumed that it was just an internet distraction and they would never actually meet.

He was really unattractive. His face was just off to me. I don't know what the hell that girl was talking about. "Pretty much the best looking guy I have seen." What?

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[–] misterbfd 8 years ago

In pictures he looked a lot better than he did in person. In person he looked like a smug clown. In well-composed, posed pictures, he looked like a model type.

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[–] MacRobin92 8 years ago

Seriously? Wow. I thought he looked unattractive in those photos too. I guess it's all subjective.

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[–] misterbfd 8 years ago

Maybe, I don't know. Just my impressions... but I'm a guy, so...

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[–] MacRobin92 8 years ago

I hear ya... I'm a guy too. Just didn't get what she saw in him, looks and personality wise. No biggie. She was kind of cute though.

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[–] babz12 8 years ago

I thought he looked better in pictures too. He looked like someone that would be on an A&F bag. He looked much more average.

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[–] sandifay62 8 years ago

I felt that way at first, but then I thought about it and he's not different than many people out there. He told the girl what she wanted to hear and lost interest. Then like many people, she took it seriously and trusted the word of someone she'd never met. The same happens with people that fall in love with people they meet too fast. The other person tells them what they want to hear,then dumps them when they get what they want or get bored.

People these days tend to build up a fantasy of the people they fall for then get devastated when they realize that they never really knew the person at all. Because they don't make enough of an effort or want things to be easy. She could've found out about the guy if she did half the research that Nev and Max did, but she believed in the fantasy.

He's a jerk, but not a villain. She's stupid, but she's not a victim.

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[–] FlyingTampon 8 years ago

she seemed really childish and goofy when they met. totally unattractive. I don't have much sympathy for people who get emotionally involved with strangers.

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[–] MacRobin92 8 years ago

"He's a jerk, but not a villain. She's stupid, but she's not a victim."

I like that. That does seem to be theme in the majority of these episodes.

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