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Have a few questions SPOILERS

posted 9 years ago by chark-white
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First, let's compare endings. The ending I saw was Leila and her mother climbing though a portal which ends up in Katie and Kristi's house. Leila runs off and after a bit her mother finds her in the basement with a cut on her hand. Leila says something about them only needing a drop of her blood and then shortly after 'Toby' in 'human' form (all you see are weird-looking bare legs) comes from out of frame, kills the mother, and then he and Leila walk out of frame together. This appears to be the standard ending, but apparently there are alternates which might have something to offer.

If Leila and Hunter are the important ones for the prophesy or whatever, what was the point in the other people? For example, did The Marked Ones add anything important to the overarching narrative?

I get that the sixth of June is 6/6, but why 2005? They say in the movie that it's the sixth year, but since there was no year zero the official sixth year of the new millennium is actually 2006. Also, why is the placement of the year in relation to the millennium significant at all, and why is it more important than just containing the number six? This numerology crap is more annoying than the '18 is 6+6+6' in The Marked Ones.

If the demon follows people instead of houses, as is repeatedly said, then why go to the effort to get the family to move to that particular house. I vaguely understand that it has something to do with portals, but I don't especially remember portals being of any importance in the first few films. Also, why not just get someone to kill the family like Katie sometimes ends up doing. Possibly I'm missing something obvious here, but I'm not really getting why so much effort was needed.

What are the rules for demons interacting with the real world? Why get Leila to go down and turn on the gas when the demon could do it itself? Could it not light its own matches? Maybe it couldn't touch the religious stuff, but Leila didn't have to stay after putting it in the fireplace. And they sort of forgot about it after that scene anyway.

Also, why does the demon fly around sometimes but walked around other times? I thought maybe it had something to do with scaring the family, but they usually weren't around while it does this. Feels like it's doing if for the cameras, that is, because it's a movie rather than because it makes sense.

[–] Snouwzers 9 years ago

2000 is first year of the millenium, so 2005 is the 6th :)
Im guessing the demon really had a problem with touching anything religious.
But yeah i agree about just killing everyone first and then taking the ones it needs

[–] luchiville 9 years ago

The reason why it killed everyone first was because they had to wait till Hunter was of a certain age and also Leila. So because Kristi was the chosen one and raised in the coven when Hunter was born Toby basically stalked him till he was of age. Obviously though the family could feel a bad presence in the house and acted to get rid of it so Toby reacted back.

[–] chark-white 9 years ago

No it isn't. As I explained, there was no year zero, which means that the first millennium of the common era was from the start of year one to the end of year 1000. The second millennium was then from the start of 1001 to the end of year 2000, and the third will be from the start of 2001 to the end of the year 3000.

First millennium: 1-1000
Second millennium: 1001-2000
Third millennium: 2001-3000

There is debate of this though, so I'm probably being pedantic.

[–] luchiville 9 years ago

2000 is the first year of the new millennium. So that makes 2005 the 6th year. If you imagine you start from 0, after 12 months the first year is up then the second year would be year 1. If that makes sense.

[–] chark-white 9 years ago

We are going around in circles here. Yes, I understand the logic used in the film, that 2000-2005 is six years. My problem isn't that I don't understand it, it's that I think its wrong for the reasons I previously stated.

imagine you start from 0

As I repeatedly said, there is no year zero. I'm not really sure how I can explain it any better than I already have. Maybe this link will help:
http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/mil2000.html

Besides, this isn't the only part of my question. Even if 2005 actually is the sixth year, why isn't the number 6 in 2006 more important. Also, something I didn't mention was that June is only the sixth month in the Gregorian calendar. The Julian calendar was used until the late 16th Century, and its sixth month was called "Sextilis" and was the equivalent of our August. This might be somewhat relevant because they say the coven dates back to the Middle Ages which was before this transition of calendars.

[–] luchiville 9 years ago

Alright sorry fair enough, but the film must count 2000 as the first year as you say.

[–] essex9999 9 years ago

Besides, this isn't the only part of my question. Even if 2005 actually is the sixth year, why isn't the number 6 in 2006 more important. Also, something I didn't mention was that June is only the sixth month in the Gregorian calendar. The Julian calendar was used until the late 16th Century, and its sixth month was called "Sextilis" and was the equivalent of our August. This might be somewhat relevant because they say the coven dates back to the Middle Ages which was before this transition of calendars.

One also might ask why the demon, who presumably dates back a lot further than the Middle Ages, would care about the Julian *or* Gregorian calendar. Even if we assume that Christianity is the One True Faith, thus making the birth of Christ significant and the Biblical stories of Satan and the Apocalypse true, Christ was not born in the year 1. Thus, the movie is really saying that Toby, or Satan, or whoever it is, has a touching commitment to the anno domini system invented in the 6th century (which started in AD 501 :D) or is a big fan of the Venerable Bede, who popularized it 200 years later.

Before anyone else says it: Yes, I am overanalyzing a horror movie. OTOH, attention to details like this can make a OK movie better and a good movie great. It's always nice to see a horror film that assumes a certain degree of intelligence in the audience. PA GD was not one of them, however.

[–] MrAnderson101 9 years ago

How stupid are you? 2005 is the 6th year.

Jan 1st 2000 - 31st Dec 2000 = 365 days = 1 year has passed

Jan 1st 2001 - 31st Dec 2001 = 365 days = 1 year has passed

Jan 1st 2002 - 31st Dec 2002 = 365 days = 1 year has passed

Jan 1st 2003 - 31st Dec 2003 = 365 days = 1 year has passed

Jan 1st 2004 - 31st Dec 2004 = 365 days = 1 year has passed

Now so far FIVE years have passed.

So Jan 1st 2005 is the start of year 6.

You are actually an idiot.

And yes I've ignored leap year days but that's irrelevant, number of years is still SIX!!!

[–] scotlandcabbage 9 years ago

Let's say you're right, that 2000AD was the first year of the current (21st) century....what year then did the 1st century start, given that there's no Year Zero, and remember, a century is 100 hundred years, not 99.....

[–] MrAnderson101 9 years ago

No idea if I replied to your comment but I wrote you a maths explanation below. Dumbass!

[–] ErikLShaw 9 years ago

When they say the 6th year, they're referring to the child being 6 years old.

In The Marked Ones, it's explained that the portals are placed in unholy places. The house in this film was built on top of the house from the 3rd film, which is considered an unholy place.

As far as the demon questions, they just seem to be plot holes, used to make the movie scary.

http://www.youtube.com/7trampled7underfoot7

[–] Tyler-A-Arse 9 years ago

Too much discussion for a movie this bad.