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About the ending (spoilers)


In the film, Patty (Libby's mother) seemed like a smart, rational person.In the end, it turns out that she agreed to be murdered so her son and daughters would get insurance money. And she did this, to protect her family. So, she pretty much let a homicidal maniac come into her house in the middle of the night... to protect her family. Riiiight. Is she brain damaged or something? Is there something in the book (that is not in the movie) that helps explain this absolutely colossal nonsense?

And I know the agreement was that only she would be murdered and her kids getting killed was just kind of an accident, but how can you trust a murderous stranger with the life of your kids in the first place? It doesn't make any sense.

"Ok, psychotic killer whom i just met, i will give you my adress and let you come into my house (where my children are sleeping) in the middle of the night and kill me, but no touching my kids. So, no messing around with my kids after I'm dead and can do nothing about it, you psycho-dude who freaking kills people for pleasure. Do we have a deal?" Yeaaaaah, are we seriously expected to believe that's the reasoning of someone who is not completely insane?

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I get the feeling she was desperate and not thinking rationally...

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If you're desperate to protect your family, you give up on your dreams and take a *beep* job, you sell your body, you even steal or kill, but sending someone who clearly gets a kick out of killing people to where your kids live just doesn't make any sense. Even for someone desperate.

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Ok.

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I totally agree. Right before I read this, I was considering writing my own thread questioning the same exact things. Her sister (who the kids were supposed to live with) would've taken that whole family in. They even said that the money was spent on the brothers defense. It wasn't a money thing with her sister, she just wanted what's best for Libby's mom and them kids. To me, that whole hair brained plan was poorly thought out. I know that was supposed to be A shocking twist, but to me it cheapens the film.

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Yeah, it ruined the movie for me too. Cheap and totally lazy writing.

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I've only read the book, haven't seen the movie yet but I honestly hated this ending. It was crappy lazy writing. We're kept suspenseful throughout the whole story, going through the list of characters who could have done it, was it Ben? Was it his friends? Was it Runner? Etc etc. And suddenly it gets to the end and it's none of that?!? Like it just felt like a complete cop out or something. Like Flynn couldn't resolve it herself so just went screw it it was a random guy who hasn't been in this story at all. If they'd mentioned even earlier a serial killer was on the loose at the time or something I'd dig an ending where it was a serial killer but not some random assassin dude.

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The Angel of Debt was mentioned very early on in the novel, as was the farmer who was killed with his own tiller.

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i'm with you.

sensationalism at his worst with zero psycho / sociological value : it's written to shock the reader, the writer having forgotten to add substance : good book/script is about the substance you find between the lines, things to chew on, reflect, wonder, analyse think & rethink; if sometimes that substance may create a shock or an emotion, that's a side-effect, not the aim otherwise it is sensationalism.

i also saw it coming way too early to be surprised at the end.

last but not least everyone should know that children needs more love than money. that angle could have brought some substance, unfortunately that idea was totally absent.

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spot on!

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Haven't seen the movie yet but it is on my list. I loved the book, but one part I didn't care for was the mom hiring the "Angel of Death" or whatever he was called. It was foreshadowed enough though, that I was sort of dreading when it would show up at the end. When he did show up, I was like - yup they went there after all.

However, the book did a really good job of showing that Patty Day was a depressed and overwhelmed person. She loved her kids but was stressed out by them too. She didn't know what to do with Ben, and she had a strong attachment to the family farm she was losing. Runner was showing up asking for money and Ben was in big trouble. She was having trouble maintaining. The decision to hire the guy was pretty believable in the book, but the setup of this random, out of nowhere killer was not the best constructed bit of story telling.

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Thanks for the reply.

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I probably missed something, but I don't really understand why the 'sympathy killer' killed one of the children and then disappeared. If he killed the child to cover his tracks why did he not kill the others?

I also don't understand why the brother lied (for 28 years?) about the psycho murdering girlfriend carrying a child who may or may not have been his?

I feel I missed the point of this film? Ironically I found I have the book this film was made from in a pile from a flea market. Maybe it will explain...

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He didn't know about the others. I think he wanted to get out of there ASAP so he didn't check the rest of the house.

The brother lied to protect the girlfriend because he was in love. And she was pregnant. He was a really, really messed up kid.

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The ending really brought the whole movie down for me. I get it, but it just took away all the integrity and intrigue that the movie dealt with. FYI, I watched with my son and he didn't realize that things were really like that back then.

And the other thing that ruined it was the daughter who should have been 29 or 30, but acted like a teen.

So many good intentions gone wrong, I loved it but then felt empty at the end.

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You Say...The brother lied to protect the girlfriend because he was in love. And she was pregnant. He was a really, really messed up kid.


Protect the girlfriend from what, what did she do.

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She killed the girl in the bedroom by choking her. His sister.

You don't need to read this, it's just my sig.

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In the book it makes a little more sense, she meets him first and he seems like an okay guy; she's legitimately at the end of her mental and physical rope after years and years of stress. At this point, death seems like a relief from her to escape not only the burden of her problems but the worrying about what would happen, and add to the solution. The book doesn't make her seems entirely rational but lets you into her thought processes where you kind of get it, including, before he kills her, her realizing it was a bad idea and wishing she could take it back,

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He didn't kill people for pleasure, he killed them for money and out of some delusional sense of justice. Seriously, how did you not get that?

Give me the ball.
- Baseball Bat Man, The Raid 2

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How was it even implied in the movie? Seriously, did you just make that up?

Serial killers usually kill for pleasure or for the thrill. It seems like he kills people, he gets a kick out of it, and the victim's relatives get money. Win-Win. Additionally, the people he killed were broke, so it doesn't seem likely that he got paid.

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No, I did not make that up; they even say in dialogue that he helps people "die with dignity" or something like that. And did you not see him take the money out of a box when he entered the house?

Give me the ball.
- Baseball Bat Man, The Raid 2

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He kills. Serially. He's a serial killer. The movie also said it out loud (both the investigative club and the TV newscaster call him that). It doesn't matter what twisted reason he gives himself and to the victims he finds. He likes to kill. All Angel of Death types do what they do fundamentally out of a murderous instinct and then they justify it inside their minds as "mercy".
Also, he gets some little money out of the deal so he can keep going, nothing more. He was not planning to retire anytime soon. In fact, he didn't, he just ended up being eventually caught 30 years later.

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This is my reading of it too. He kills because he likes to kill. He is a psychopath.

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