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People who get mad when....


the actors cast in a film adaptation of a book they read don't match the book's physical descriptions are, to put it bluntly, idiots. PLEASE tell me where you all expect to find an actress who is:

A. incredibly talented and capable of portraying an extremely complex and psychologically disturbed character with the skill of an absolute pro

B. a big, recognizable name that can realistically capture a return at the box office

C. Less than five feet tall with red hair and enormous boobs?

You need a reality check if you think it's some kind of outrage or detriment to the film to cast an actress who doesn't closely resemble the book description. Anyway, the small stature of Libby Day is used in the novel as a poetic literary device to represent her inner feeling of vulnerability. Barring the use of some horrible forced line of dialogue, this metaphor would be completely lost on screen either way. Furthermore, that sense of vulnerability is something a truly gifted actor (like Theron) can portray with or without being physically small.

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I worked on the film and she is gonna be amazing in it. No worries people.



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Except here her height is important you moron. Libby is like helpless child. What happened to her it's like it trapped her both mentally and physically.


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Doesn't matter. Movie Magic.

It's a movie. They can make anyone look 5 feet tall...

Hell, they made Elijah Woods look 3.5 feet tall... and generally manage to make the 5'7" Tom Cruise look at least 5'11"... usually with apple boxes.

Someone's actual height means nothing in movie worlds... just as the actual architecture of a building means nothing... tons of movies use exteriors of one building and interiors on a sound stage or a totally different building.

No reason to call people names, either way.

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Are you actually suggesting that gigantic Theron will be made to look shorter in this movie?

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She's 5'10, not 6'4'... she's not "gigantic", she's slightly above average in height.

I'm not saying that they will but that they could, if they wanted, make her look shorter.

But, again. MOVIE. They always change the book to make a movie. It just has to be done. How about you find a list of AMAZING, bankable actresses who are 5'2" or shorter... particularly ones who have the capital to also produce the film.

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Her height was to suggest she was trapped in a childlike state. It's not just about vulnerability.

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...but the OP already wrote: "...that sense of vulnerability is something a truly gifted actor (like Theron) can portray with or without being physically small" to address your retort... moron.
I just don't get why people resort to name calling.

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Except here her height is important you moron. Libby is like helpless child. What happened to her it's like it trapped her both mentally and physically.


If you can step out of the stubborn mind-set that reduces you to name-calling, I might point out that the way those things are expressed in novels and the way they're expressed in film is often different. Only very superficial people would think that physical appearance is the only way of expressing emotional vulnerability. And if you think her childlike vulnerability was the only key aspect of her character, perhaps you'd like to try reading the book again and asking a grown-up to help you sound out the big words.

Most importantly, bringing such an excellent actress to the film elevated its chances at success.

If you are having such a deeply negative psychological reaction to this, you might consider not watching film adaptations.

Now if you would like to also call me a moron, feel free. Just keep in mind I only have discussions with people who have something meaningful to share. The chances of me reading your reply are about zero.




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So her experiences literally STUNTED her growth?!

Not sure I buy that. 






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I think people need to learn to separate the book from the movie. Yes Charlize is not the exact description of the character, but when that happens? Harry potter had green eyes, katniss was 16, I mean, is a movie. I am sure Charlize is more than capable to make us feel how helpless she is, even if she is not extremely short. If an olsen twin had been casted people would still be complaining about something.
When I read the book I totally imagined Nicholas Hoult as Lyle tho, so tall and awkward, Maybe he will make Charlize look shorter!

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Libby is a woman missing some fingers. Thus, Charlize Theron is totally wrong for the part. They need to find a high-profile actress who is not only missing some fingers, but the EXACT DIGITS that are described as missing in Gillian Flynn's book. (The novel also describes her as missing some toes, but I am OK with them casting an actress with all her toes, providing the toes are not shown in the movie. Otherwise they will need to do some expensive CGI work to remove the toes. I do not think it will be feasible to remove fingers via CGI.)

Seriously, though, I hope the movie is great. Looking forward to Flynn's next book!

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Reminds me of the people who were upset tom cruise was cast as jack reacher. Even though tom's a terrific actor more than capable of bring the intensity the role required.

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Personally I feel it is very arrogant on the part of the film makers when they deviate so much from the literary character's physical appearance. The author of any novel creates and describes their characters in a specific way for specific reasons. In the case of Dark Places, Libby's height, stature and physical description are actually VERY important in the book. As others have commented, her physicality was vital to her survival, portrays her mental state and the way she's perceived and treated by others. To cast someone so opposite in appearance to Libby is basically saying they can over-ride the author's vision for her character. Even though the movie is an adaptation, and there will be some subjective interpretation and changes along the way, this is a bit much.

My view is that Charlize is 100% miscast as Libby Day. First off - Charlize is beautiful. Libby is not. They have to really ugly up Charlize. Libby has red hair (dyed blonde), huge breasts and is very short (4'9"). I realize they can get actors to dye their hair, change their eye color with lenses, pad breasts, lose weight / gain weight, give them scars, bad skin, CGI in extra limbs or take some away, etc etc. But honestly I think someone's stature and presence is much harder to modify, even with movie magic. Charlize just has that imposing, statuesque figure and beauty. I can't see her at all as tiny, damaged Libby Day.

Even in movies where actors are made to look shorter / smaller, they usually start off fairly small in real life. EG Elijah Wood - he is only 5'6" in real life. So even though there was movie magic involved in making him look like a hobbit, he started off pretty tiny, with petite features (for a man) that lent themselves well to being shrunken to hobbit size. Trying to get Charlize to appear 4'9" would kind of be like making The Rock look like a hobbit. Their body sizes and shapes are just wrong for those roles.

It's a shame Amy Adams dropped out of the Libby Day role. She would have been a huge improvement.

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Yeah.

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I'm sure there are working actresses -- not necessarily A-list celebs -- who come fairly close to Libby's description and age. We all understand the financial need to cast big names; some of us just wish we could see some fresh faces get a chance in roles they would be better suited to than the popular picks. I get what you're saying, but calling people of that mindset "idiots" is a bit narrow. Of course adaptations don't owe absolute fidelity to their source material, but the book did come first, so it's pretty understandable when fans want to see more or less the same character they read about be portrayed on the screen. When they just cast a big name who has absolutely nothing in common with the character physically, of course it looks lazy to some people. It's not that unreasonable to at least point it out.

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