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The unawareness of the characters was realistic


You judge the characters from the viewer's point of view. As a viewer, you know that something dangerous is going to happen. However, the characters are not viewers, they have no idea that something sinister is going on.

When David is locking the door, the invited are having a good time. They aren't thinking "hey, our friend is locking the doors, he wants to keep us inside so he can kill us". The "home invasion" excuse is quite plausible. People don't remember those things when they read the news. The video was also uncomfortable to watch but not to the point of making you suspicious that you're about to be killed. David and Eden apologize for it and keep on with the nice dinner and wine. Plenty of people would have accepted the apology and stayed.

The kisses might have crossed the boundaries of what many people consider to be acceptable. However, it seems that most of them were adventurous. Gina did coke and it is hinted that she had been promiscuous. David confesses to have coke. The way they talk about it makes it seem that those things are somehow normal in that circle.

The most disrespectful thing that happened was the slap. I don't condone violence but the ones that witnessed it might have given her a free pass because Eden is hurting.

People in real life don't expect to be killed by their friends of many years. It's silly to expect the characters to understand that they're being sacrificed for a cult.

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I agree. From the viewer's perspective we have music, cinematography, and editing to frame the situation as being sinister. But when you're having wine with old college friends there's really no reason to believe anything bad is going to happen (definitely not a mass murder-suicide).

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Exactly.

The characters aren't hearing the ominous score. No one told them that they are in a thriller. They don't know that they're in a movie whose tagline is "There is no darkness. Only reunion."

I found the characters' reactions very believable. Also, I have been in many situations where in my head I was going "Holy cow!" but on the outside stayed placid and calm because I didn't want to escalate the emotions in the room.

If someone visited me, I would lock the door behind them . . . because I keep my house locked even when I'm there.

The only character actions I thought were stupid were actually actions that I found irresponsible--not ones that I thought would lead to death. For example, I thought that Gina asking to do coke was a crappy thing to do when she's in the presence of a recovering drug addict.

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"If someone visited me, I would lock the door behind them . . . because I keep my house locked even when I'm there."

Sure -- but does that mean you'd have locked it *from the inside,* preventing anyone from leaving? Most indoor doors have bolts on the inside, not locks that require a key.

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Sure -- but does that mean you'd have locked it *from the inside,* preventing anyone from leaving? Most indoor doors have bolts on the inside, not locks that require a key.


I've been in houses before that had sturdy wooden doors that locked from the inside with a key. Usually the key was just left in the lock (not particularly safe . . . ). Obviously a door that locks from the inside with a key is a danger if there is a fire or some other emergency. I'm just saying that if someone I was visiting locked their door this way it would seem a bit odd to me, but it wouldn't be some huge red flag that something bad was about to happen.

I think it's a perfect example of something in the movie that freaks Will (and the audience) out, because he's on higher alert--but it also makes sense to me why it wouldn't freak someone else out.

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Maybe Will was the only one who could really sense that there was something sinister going on, that things around him made him more perceptive and sensitive:

1. He was going to meet his ex wife, the mother of his dead son.

2 He ran over and had to kill the wounded coyote, which reminded him of life and death.

3. He stepped through the door to his old house where he used to live and could feel his son's presence there.

I think he was the only one of them all that allowed himself to really feel. That way it was easy for him to see through the fake smiles and the games.
Even if he was locked in, he was on the outside looking in the whole time.





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exactly. the other guests, to one extent or another, were invested in making the get-together congenial, healing, a true reunion. Will's ambivalence was apparent early, and for good reason. this was all a scene of personal wreckage for him.

it was very good writing, characterization. this is one of the better thrillers i've seen in recent years precisely because it works the crazy undertone to the conventional so well. when you think about it, it is almost the perfect ambush. one we would all be likely vulnerable to. the best horror is plausible.

the reveal is slow. the creepy hulking guy, the snuff video. the crazy lady. where do you bail out? where does fear lead you stay with the group. decisions, decisions.

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Agreed 100% they did a great job keeping the movie plausible. Both in making it apparent why the guests wouldn't be cautious and also in why will would be cautious. Well done

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Totally agree, you're comfortable around old friends, you do and say stupid stuff and doesnt think much if others do the same. I don't understand people complaining about how the characters were clueless, it was completely believable to me.

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All valid points. I still would've likely left after John Caroll Lynch's character told his story about killing his wife (or at least been on edge for a while afterwards).

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That's a good point but I think the video of the woman dying should've made things apparent. After watching it when the hosts talked about "there's nothing to fear, don't fear your death" etc I immediately thought "it's a suicide party, they're going to serve poisoned food and then as everyone is dying they'll tell them not to fear death." The giveaway wasn't so much the video itself but how the hosts framed the takeaway (you shouldn't fear your own death). If they were only grieving their loved ones, why would they fear their own deaths? Bringing that into the picture made it extremely obvious (or maybe I'm just a more untrusting person than most?) and it should've at least made them suspicious.

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This is what gets me with most of the facile threads on these boards. The characters have no idea they're in a horror movie. People don't naturally jump from "My friend (or ex-wife) who I haven't seen in two years due to personal trauma has suddenly decided to get in touch" to "Y'know, I bet she is planning on murdering me!"

I guarantee most people on these boards have been in far, far riskier situations (e.g. going out to a nightclub with a new group of mostly strangers, trying to fit in) but have just gone along with the social etiquette because they didn't want to embarrass themselves.

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Same view mate, agree 100%

Seems there is a lot of experts saying they would have done stuff differently or picked up on it way quicker.

Context is always big factor...

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