Rose
What Did Happen to her?
Thank You
[email protected]
The description of the novel on Wikipedia said "heart condition". It was implied that Rose had kept it a secret.
shareI figured it was most likely a heart attack.
But since there appeared to be some sort of heater next to her body on the floor (by her head), it did cross my mind briefly that Rose had committed suicide by gassing herself to death.
Spotlight: 10
Brooklyn: 9
Room: 9.5
I thought that Rose maybe knew her health was getting worse and she arranged for Eilis to leave for America precisely to save her from getting saddled with having to take care of their mother - as Mrs Kelly said she was obligated to.
That's what I thought too. What was wrong with this mother that she needed a grown daughter to provide live-in care? She wasn't an invalid. She wasn't elderly either, and looked about the same age as that evil shop owner. The mother was a big, coddled baby. Rose had better maternal instincts toward Eilis and made sure she launched Eilis out to have her own life. I wonder if Rose knew about the Jim possibility and the bookkeeping career. Maybe Rose thought all along Eilis would come home and take over her job, then got worried when she read about her new boyfriend and other signs that Eilis was setting roots in Brooklyn.
πΎ
I've always thought it's the height of selfishness to expect your grown children to put their lives and happiness aside in order to cater to your wishes.
shareRose seemed happy when she first read letters from Eilis, but she was also melancholy. She missed her sister, and knew she'd never see her again because she knew she was dying. In the movie, when Eilis says "And I'll come visit, won't I?" Rose nods but can hardly contain her tears, and changes the subject. She, unlike Eilis, knew they'd never see each other again.
In the book, Rose didn't want to get married. She'd had plenty of boyfriends, but no interest in popping out a gazillion babies like Irish wives did, and being tied to the kitchen and home. She liked her job, and being able to golf. Too bad she didn't meet someone like Jim who liked to travel. She could have sent her mother money to help her along.
The mother was truly dire. Dear God you wished the mother would get more involved in the community and create more of her own life.
Interesting. I wish the movie had made it more clear because like the others I wondered if she had committed suicide. I also considered a health problem, though. TBH she didn't seem depressed enough to kill herself, but we didn't see much of her so who knows? I think it best her sister didn't know if it was suicide. She would blame herself of course, and she shouldn't. And it's also best she returned because no matter how Rose died, she would have wanted her to.
shareIf it was suicide, don't know if she could have had a church funeral back then. I assumed she had a heart attack or similar.
shareWatching the gradual build-up of letter exchanges between the sisters that was followed by Rose's death, I felt quite sure that Rose had suicided. I could see Rose's heart sinking when Eilis began to write of the excitement of living a life of opportunity and freedom in Brooklyn. Seeing how liberated and happy Eilis became, Rose was forced to become even more aware of her own circumstances- she had lived a life of burden and entrapment. There were scenes depicting Rose's deep sadness as Eilis spoke with optimism. On top of feeling defeated about the life she led, she was ill. Those factors weighed heavily on her, and she felt as though she had no way out.
But then there was no mention or speculation following Rose's death, so I was a little unsure also.
Yeah I had similar speculation, a bit annoying the movie didn't broach the subject at all.
shareActually, when Father Flood comes to Bertocci's to tell Eilis about Rose's death, he says "I think she knew she was sick. And she didn't want anyone to know." So I never thought it was a suicide. Besides, Rose would know that Eilis would have to come home and care for Mammy and leave NY behind. Rose didn't want that.
πππ
Actually, when Father Flood comes to Bertocci's to tell Eilis about Rose's death, he says "I think she knew she was sick. And she didn't want anyone to know." So I never thought it was a suicide. Besides, Rose would know that Eilis would have to come home and care for Mammy and leave NY behind. Rose didn't want that.
πππ
Thanks for clearing that up. I thought it was suicide and after the movie my mother mentioned "the suicide". We just couldn't figure out how she did it.
shareI actually thought she took her own life as well.
When the mom was reading the letters, Rose was silently crying. Personally, I understand missing your sibling, but if you know you're very very sick, why not be happy your sister is settled somewhere else & happy? Everytime they showed Rose crying, it seemed linked to something exciting her sister was doing, which made me think she was jealous. If the book said she was sick, I guess she was sick. But I didn't get that from the movie.
-Who is it?
-It's Grandpa. And it sounds like he's gotten into the horseradish again.
Personally, I didn't see her as a suicidal. I think she was melancholy and she was accepting her life was going to be very inconsequential, but I didn't perceive her as wanting to throw it away.
There is a scene with her at the dinner table with her mother where she looks like she fighting to keep the food down, or stop herself from choking. She turns away and puts her hand over her mouth. She looked unwell.
I think if she had used the heater to kill herself she would have been found in bed, but she was sprawled across the floor like she was getting out of bed and just collapsed.
The priest (Jim Broadbent) mentions that Rose had been ill for some time and hiding it, but then again, it could have been misinterpreted that by "ill" they may have meant "mental illness", but to me it seemed likely it'd been cancer or the likes, it wasn't until I came here I learned it had supposedly been a vaguely mentioned heart condition.
I took her profound sadness when reading Eilise's letters to be that she knew she was dying and that she would probably never see Eilise again. It never struck me for a moment that her sadness could be jealousy or the echoes of the life she'd never have. It honestly seemed to me Rose and Eilise were extremely close - I somehow even felt that it had been likely Rose had brought Eilise up (she seemed older) while Mother probably worked, or the likes. Rose's reactions to Eilise's letters seemed more like the pining of a mother for her child than a sibling pining for another. Just my interpretation though.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
We've become a race of peeping toms.
Rose knew she wasn't well and sending Eilish to America for a fresh start was her last gift to her sister. She knew she had only a short time left, and knew Eilish would have a bleak future if she stayed in Ireland. Rose was selfless in her love for her sister.
share