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Coco Number 1 again! Excellent -48.6%(26M) weekend drop. Crazy WOM in China!!! Pixar finishing strongly this year :D

posted 7 years ago by DirtyDozen (76)
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Domestic: $108,689,404 38.8%
+ Foreign: $171,300,000 61.2%
= Worldwide: $279,989,404

It's tracking pretty closely to Moana and Tangled, plus it's A+ Cinemascore and 97% RT rating makes $200M-$250M+ the most likely domestic range. It's been released in 33 markets so far with major markets left that include UK, Australia,Italy, Brazil, Korea and Japan. In China it only opened with $17.8M but increased a whooping 148% last weekend to sit at $75.6M already!

Here is why it's a insane an amount for Pixar in China -

UP! ($13M), Toy Story 3 ($17M), Cars 2 ($12M), MU $(33M), Inside Out ($16M) ,Finding Dory ($38M), Cars 3 ($20M), Brave ($4M). Pixar has historically never strong in China yet Coco is looking at a $150M-$180M finish and will make as much as most of the Pixar films combined. Crazy stuff indeed!

[–] QueenFanUSA (3379) 7 years ago

It's doing well in China, I agree. The problem is the studio only gets 25% of the gross there.

I find it's domestic performance underwhelming...especially for a film of this quality and expense(at least 200 million).

It's going to struggle to reach $200 million domestically especially with Ferdinand and Jumanji on the horizon.

When a film like Secret Life of Pets($80 million production cost) can make $367 million domestically and nearly $900 million worldwide, I'm a bit disheartened. Coco probably wil break even but not much profit at all I'm afraid.

[–] ALurker (485) 7 years ago

But Pets is in the past. I don't know why you kept bring that movie up now like it's still relevant.

Shouldn't you be more disheartened with the performance of Justice League though? That one didn't exactly stand a strong chance against Thor: Ragnarok like you thought it would. Let alone against Coco. Even Wonder didn't break much of a sweat when that broke even. Yeeeeah... WB, their Snyder reliance, and their overblown budget on reshoots... what can you do? It's all really up to international numbers to possibly save JL now, in a most ironical sense yet.

Ferdinand and Jumanji will have another Disney beast to battle like all the other December releases...[spoiler]STAR WARS[/spoiler].

[–] Otter (24464) 7 years ago

I saw it tonight, few viewers in a suburban theater on a Monday. For what that's worth.

And now that I think about it, the theme of family loyalty through the generations (regardless of mortal status) might have stronger cultural resonance in China than the US. There used to be a tradition of making sacrifices to the ancestors to keep them well in the afterlife in China, I have no idea if any of those beliefs or practices are left, does anyone know?

[–] QueenFanUSA (3379) 7 years ago

Otter...did you like the film?

[–] Otter (24464) 7 years ago

Very very much. And the relative I saw it with LOVED it, but then she'd been through some of the shame stuff in real life.

[–] DirtyDozen (76) 7 years ago

It actually went up with actuals and did -45.8% and $27,533,304 which means the domestic total is going even better than expected :D $200M will be a breeze no doubt! It's more along the lines of how much will it beat Moana's since it's weekend drops are better at the moment and won't have a heavy hitter like 'Sing' to contend with.

It only cost $175M to make and in the end will probably make at least $800M if things pan out as it is, which is pretty fantastic when all said and done. Disney haven't changed their strategy of releasing big budgeted animations because they don't need to, since they make huge money barring a few disappointments.

Disney are going to dominate the other studios until at least 2020 when we'll find out more release dates. I'm more concerned how the other studios will be able to get anywhere near them since the deal to acquire Fox Studio's will land them the Avatar franchise and they'll naturally work that into the rotation later on, along with the new X-Men/FF4 assets and Indiana Jones coming back. Now that's a scary thought indeed.

[–] QueenFanUSA (3379) 7 years ago

With all due respect, it's still 10 million behind Moana at the same point and Ferdinand opens in 10 days followed by Jumanji .

$200 million won't be a "breeze", my friend. Hard to see how it's going to match Moana domestically...let alone" beat" it.

[–] DirtyDozen (76) 7 years ago

Oh naw I honestly think it will get there quite comfortably to be honest. The reason I use the term 'breeze' is because $200M is definitely the minimum. Sorry, I meant to say it'll beat Moana easily internationally, not domestically. My actual prediction on where Moana lands is around $230M, even though it's holding better than Moana at the moment. I still see the range being between $200-$250M domestically like I stated in the OP.

Reasons for the range using Tangled and Moana totals. Tangled finished with $200M and is currently trailing Coco by $14M. It faced competition in The Chronicles of Narnia:The Voyage of the Dawn Treader ($104M), Yogi Bear ($100M) and Gulliver's Travels ($42M).

Moana finished with $248M and is currently ahead of Coco by $10M and faced competition in the juggernaut
Sing ($270M).

I only expect $100-$130M from Ferdinand(general Blue Sky Studio film range) and $80M-$90M from Jumanji(I smell a flop even though Sony needs every hit they can). So less competition but struggles to make $200M? I can't see it :D

[–] QueenFanUSA (3379) 7 years ago

Ugh...don't remind me of how "Sing" made $270 million...it still makes me sick.

Jumanji is going to be huge. Early reactions from critics on social media is uniformly positive and Sony is so confident they are screening it this Friday. Plus...The Rock and Jack Black? I smell a big hit.

[–] DirtyDozen (76) 7 years ago

I quite liked Sing. Not surprised to see it connect with the GA and do so well given Illumnation's track record. It does show that 2 huge animations can co-exist and still make plenty of money :)

What's your opening and final total prediction for Jumanji? I'm a big fan of the Robin William's version so I think this looks terrible but if it connects then best case scenario that I can see is $45M opening with $160M finish. It'd be nice if Sony could finish closer to $1B domestically.