Nostagia that's why. Can you name any Bond movie which was as good as The Bourne Ultimatum. 24 movies and none have a rating higher than 8.0 (Casino Royale).
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Bourne its more like any other action hero while Bond is more than just action he has style, sex appeal, great cars, stays in the greatest hotels gets the most beautiful woman and always dressses well.
Bond is like Danny Ocean played by Clooney and Thomas Crown played by Pierce Brosnan but he just happens to have a license to kill as well. Bond is all about being sexy and Cool the action is secondary.
He is the man every woman wants to be with and every guy wants to be.
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Nostalgia does matter.
That and the Bourne movies are relatively unimaginative, and use a tone that is less entertaining to me. And Jason Bourne lacks charisma. And style. And glamour. And locale variety. And he doesn't much save the world, primarily just about himself. And the paranoid antiauthoritarian themes run counter to Ian Flemingism. And lots of shaky cam. And no sense of humor. And far fewer beautiful women. And not much satire. And little escapism. And a fantasy of grit, not hope. And so on.
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the Daniel Craig Bond movies are relatively unimaginative, and use a tone that is less entertaining to me. And Craig's Bond lacks charisma. And style. And glamour. And locale variety. And he doesn't much save the world, primarily just about himself. And the paranoid antiauthoritarian themes run counter to Ian Flemingism. And lots of shaky cam in QOS. And no sense of humor. And far fewer beautiful women. And not much satire. And little escapism. And a fantasy of grit, not hope. And so on.
Well, I agree that all that stuff and the obvious chasing of a Bourne aesthetic are hindrances to the Craig era. (And earlier, though not Bournian, similar anchors around material/tone like TWINE and LTK and even FYEO a bit).
Though you try hard to caste me as a Craig lover, I don't think you've noticed that the best any Craig-era movie does with me is land midpack...primarily due to their tonal insistence on faux grit rather than whole-hearted embracing of the somewhat satiric, wholly fantastic Bondverse of DN through OP...which I consider the Golden era better on average than all Craig films.
So yeah, I agree, sort of.
Except...Craig's stuff is still a big step away from the above and towards classic Bondverse, with SP being the biggest one yet. Which is why SP is substantially preferred by me to the other Craig entries. So, you could have said it better...by being honest rather than merely campaigning. See, Craig's Bond oevre does have glamour and locale variety and fantasy and he dresses with style etc etc etc at least compared to Jason Bourne...yet you seem to think you are making yourself someone worth listening too by only discussing the opposite of this. And maybe you are, to some! Those who are enjoying their pantybunching more than enjoying their Bond.
Just, that ain't me.
Every campaign need figureheading, not authenticity, I suppose. Or so it seems nowadays. But...what you really see rather than what you think sounds like a sharp attack...would be refreshing to hear from you.
Sort of like the "real" BDB who was happy to celebrate DAD, Connery, Craig, just Bond. James Bond.
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So, you could have said it better...by being honest rather than merely campaigning.
Though you try hard to caste me as a Craig lover
you seem to think you are making yourself someone worth listening too by only discussing the opposite of this.
Sort of like the "real" BDB who was happy to celebrate DAD, Connery, Craig, just Bond. James Bond.
I understand you want to only discuss the positivesNo, not necessarily.
One day you may realize that any conversation about Bond is a good one! It keeps things Alive and cooking.I disagre. An (exaggerated) form of what you just did would be a bot that finds ANYTHING you ever have to say about Die Another Day and spamming it with 100 repetitive posts about how Roger Moore is gay.
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I will try to lighten up, though. I'm sorry; upon rereading I agree I was too touchy and snappish.
Though like I said...if I wasn't in a bad mood
Yes both weird moods...or even more concrete specifics like "hey, I noticed a plotpoint or theme that I missed, prior" which can alter the whole story/experience significantly show up sometimes.
Or, honestly, life stage etc apply when we are talking about stuff older than ourselves, like (for most of us) at least SOME James Bond. Meaning...what seems uncool in youth can resonate differently later on in life/experience/etc.
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There's such a thing as longevity. Sure, the initial Bourne trilogy was great and Ultimatum rivals the best Bond films, but it's already run out of gas, just watch The Bourne Legacy and this summer's Jason Bourne. Bond has created far more quality films and given the trajectory of The Bourne franchise will continue to do so.
shareBourne is a joke compared to Bond. The first three Bourne movies are the exact same movie three times. Bond has had 50 years of new and exciting adventures.