He traveled to Isthmus City on holiday, so that he could give 007 a signature gun. Which is only useful if you plan on getting disarmed and shot with your own weapon ...
What bothers me the most about this statement, while true, is that it doesn't make sense that in Skyfall they already claimed James was old and past his prime and all this, however this is "before" all the other movies? I never understood that aspect of Skyfall.
Skyfall doesn't take place before all the other movies. The Craig series is a complete reboot and doesn't fit anywhere into the timeline of the previous films.
Skyfall doesn't take place before all the other movies. The Craig series is a complete reboot and doesn't fit anywhere into the timeline of the previous films.
Wrong. Craig's Bond films are not reboots. They are prequels or origin stories based on Ian Flemmings books from 1953 & 1959 etc that we're never made into films in this franchise. casino Royale was his first book and was originally a Brit TV movie that flopped & it wasn't until Connery that the franchise booted up.
Gosh people on this board know nothing of Bond history. All the films are one long story and will always be that way. Spectre is referred to in the older films and Bond even marries one of its member's daughters Tracy and she gets killed on their wedding night which is also referred to in Tim Dalton's film, License To Kill.
The one script goof in Spectre is referring to Bond as too Old for the job in this film since these are origin stories or prequels to Connery films/ missions and Bond is pretty young. Casino starts out with Bond not even being a 00 yet.
For F sake please do your homework before you make an uneducated statement like yours
Boy, people on this board who purport to be such Bond experts know nothing of Bond history
If Craig's Bond movies are prequels:
how does he already have the Astin Martin (fully loaded with machine guns) in Skyfall when he first introduced to it in Goldfinger?
How does Miss Moneypenny change from a black woman to a white woman?
Why is Bond introduced to the Walther PPK in Dr. No when he already used them from Casino Royale through Spectre?
When does M change his name from Gareth Mallory (Fiennes' M) to Miles Messervy (Lee's M)?
Why does Bond meet Felix Leiter for the first time in Casino Royale, and then meet him again for the first time in Dr. No?
Because they're not prequels. The entire Craig series is a reboot. The producers have even said so and said that was their intent. Anything you claim is pure fan speculation that doesn't hold up as I've clearly pointed out.
First of all watch the Special Features on Casino Royale Blu Ray titled "Becoming Bond" with interviews of Michael Wilson and Barbara Broccoli producers and director Martin Campbell... They state the Daniel Craig movies are prequels to Sean Connery movies to show young Bond which is why they did not cast Brosnan in the role because they needed a younger actor to play young Bond at the beginning of his career as a "00".
Also it wasn't until the filiming of Casino that the rights to Ian Flemming's book were not available from Sony Pictures until then and they always wanted to make the original story the right way.
Michael Wilson also states that it is the begining of the timeline and the fact that they brought Judi Dench back as M made no sense in the timeline but they just had to bring her back and saw no one else playing M.
Paul Haggis also said that it is young Bond to see his story of how he got to be so emotionally unattatched in the Connery and other Bond stories/films.
All of this right here ends all arguments about calling it a reboot because both producers and the director Martin Campbell are calling it the beginning of the timeline. Any other questions you have you should direct towards the producers and directors. Daniel Craig movies are young Bond movies and the beginning of the timeline not a new rebooted timeline.
I like how you ignored all of the points I made proving the Craig films CAN'T be prequels.
But fortunately for me, I HAVE watched Becoming Bond on the Blu-ray. While they DO talk about the need to cast a new actor because Casino Royale takes place when Bond is younger and just becoming a 00 (therefore negating the ability to use the older Brosnan), they NEVER ONCE SAY that it is a prequel. NOT ONCE. They have always stated that they were "rebooting" the series (just like Batman Begins was a reboot of the Batman series - or did you stupidly think Batman Begins was a prequel to the 1989 Batman?). They have never said the Craig Bonds are prequels - and they aren't, for exactly for the reasons I gave that you conveniently ignored.
Now, either link to sources where either Michael Wilson or Barbara Broccoli call the Craig films prequels and address the points I brought up, or shut up. Those are your two choices.
Sorry but you are wrong. They never said 'Reboot' and when they talk about the timeline it is the same as a prequel i.e. origins stories, young Bond, Bond before the timeline of Connery stories etc. Are you a Moron and can't figure that out. Prequel means stories that tell the origins and if Casino is an origin storie of Bond before 00 then it is a prequel. Talk about being stupid. If you watched it properly you would hear that it was Bond before Connery and the other films. They are not going to redo all the Ian Flemming stories that were in the films of all the other Bonds. No where did the producers comment on that anywhere.
For now you are on my IGNORE list as I no longer will waste my time with rude arrogant ignorant morons like yourself. IGNORE YOU GO!! BYE BYE
I provided you 3 links in which they SPECIFICALLY called it a "reboot."
Prequels are not defined as being origin stories. They are sequels that are set before the events of the previous movies. Indiana Jones and the Temple, for instance, is a prequel because it takes place before Raiders. But it is not an origin story.
And if the definition of a prequel WAS an origin story, as you claim, then Batman Begins WOULD be a prequel to Batman (1989). Is that really what you're trying to say? No, I didn't think you were.
And you STILL DIDN'T even attempt to address the points I made. Because you can't.
it doesn't make sense that in Skyfall they already claimed James was old and past his prime and all this, however this is "before" all the other movies?
The problem lies with Skyfall being made as a standalone adventure and Spectre reversing that and making it Part 3 of the Craig Saga. Before SPectre, Mendes wanted to play around with the floating timeline aspect of the character, and basically, Skyfall was supposed to be a film that blurs those lines, merging OLD bond with NEW bond.
It's why he's old and past his prime, How he's been "in the game too long". why he has the Goldfinger Aston as his personal car, and the wink about the exploding pen and Bond quipping "not exactly Christmas" even though he never got Q gadgets in CR/QOS.
But sadly, Mendes wanted to tie the bow and close off Craig's tenure with an "ending", so everything that was established in Skyfall was reversed in SP.
Silva is now a Spectre agent, instead of being his own boss, the Goldfinger Aston is now a Q car given to bond for a previous Mission("I told you to bring it back in one piece") and instead of him being the "British Bulldog", as implied at the end of SKyfall, this go around, he has something "better to do" than that, because for some reason now, Bond is just a hired assassin who's basically already "dead", which is the meaning behind "The Dead are Alive".
Bond says in Casino that 00 have a short lifespan.. ie usually get killed in the first year. Bond has outlived all the other 00 of his generation and for that he is considered old in 00 years. Being a 00 is like dog years as far as lifespan goes. The comments in the movie do not mean literally old but 00 old, and that is apples and oranges. Its such a demanding job as a 00, the agents get burned out quickly. But not Bond. Remember how he takes out 4 agents in the hotel elevator in Quantum. This shows Bond is an exceptional 00 agent. He outlives, outsmarts, outmanuevers, outwits everyone. He is invincible which is why all the movies are about 007 not 009 or 006. MI6 movies are about the best 00 agent that ever lived in MI6 history. Bond will live forever.
The comments in the movie do not mean literally old but 00 old
You do realize if this was the case, then Craig is the worst 00 on the face of the planet. Think about his career...
He starts 00 work, after one mission, QUITS the service for the girl he loves.
Second mission, though still tied to the first, he is truly on the mission(best film of Craig's tenure IMO) yet M doesn't trust him. Thinks he's out for revenge. He earns her trust, and bam, he's ready to Get back(though in reality, "he never left")
Third film, he feels burned by M's lack of trust (what, she didn't learn anything in QOS?) and QUITS the service, pretending to be dead. He comes back for M, and wouldn't you know, he ends up still connected to missions one and two by unknowningly taking out another leg of Spectre!
Now comes his fourth film and he's kicked off active duty by M, because he's been working rogue. Luckily though, his sectre M mission uncovers the thing that his whole career was building up to, Spectre and Blofeld! So he captures him once and for all and what now? Hell, he QUITS the service because he's got something better to do!
WOW, Craig, so you quit three times and rode off into the sunset after only two - three REAL missions?? Some 00 agent you are!!
Why doesnt anyone get this concept?...
No one "gets" it because it makes Craig look like a huge wusscakes! It's better to believe and recognize Skyfall's original intention and see the clear shift in his timeline versus acknowledging that he was never cut out to be a 00.
And you do know everything you said about Craig's Bond films was all written by Ian Flemming back in 1953 and 1959 books?...
I understand full well what Ian Fleming's themes and stories were, and Craig's first two films did a decent job bringing those out. Skyfall and Spectre, however, are quite far removed from those sources. Unless you are planning to explain which novels had M as Bond's "mother" and Blofeld as his adopted "brother"?
At the start of almost every tenure, they kick things off with Flemingesqe adventures to keep things grounded, and as they progress, they become more and more modern action films, upping the ante of what was previously established. Just look at Dr No to TB, LALD to MR, GE to DAD, and Craig is no different. He started off Fleming but went somewhere else entirely. And it was somewhere not very good, that's for sure!
I don't really have feelings about new Q one way or the other. But I certainly miss that Q is no longer the humorless take no guff boss of the shop. It was always great watching him boss 007 around like an annoying nephew.
"I said no camels, that's five camels, can't you count?"
It was always great watching him boss 007 around like an annoying nephew.
Indeed, Q is younger and more active in the field/support of Bond but I do miss it when his role was explaining the gadgets and treating Bond like the maverick he is, like in the clip below.
I like how they've turned Q into a hacker nerd, a bit like Chloe in 24 or Simon Pegg's character in Mission Impossible. It's probably the most sensible change they've made to any of the characters in the Bond movies.
Every modern action hero needs a hacker sidekick. Their role is to (1) advance the plot by doing impossible things with a few taps on their keyboard; (2) provide some comedy nerd/jock interplay with the hero; (3) say "We're in!" at least once per movie; and (4) provide a character that teenagers in the audience can identify with (particularly if the action hero is almost old enough to be their grandfather).
Q was the Quartermaster. The guy whose division created the gadgets and tools the agents took out into the field.
Then he was turned into a generic, nerd hacker you see in every other show and movie, AND THEN THEY MADE HIM A REALLY BAD ONE.
Who in their right mind would take a laptop and plug it directly into the mainframe of the MI5?! The mouth-breathers at mmy local PC World use closed systems to check computers taken in for repairs, but this dink decides that it's cool to plug it in without doing any checks on it?!
It's hot... but not as hot as the night Johnny Viti got married...
The Daniel Craig Bond movies are prequels to the Sean Connery films. So the Q in these recent movies is Q when he was young and just becoming inventive. As time goes by Q creates and invents more innovative spy gadgets. Eventually he grows into being old man Q. They are the same guy. Just as we are seeing Bond evolve through Daniel Craig so is Q. Remember in Casino Royale with Craig, he was not even a double 0 yet.
I like this Q. The car in Spectre you can see is a prototype of what a Bond car can really do like the older films. If you also recall, in Casino & Quantum, & Skyfall there were very few gadgets until Q comes into the scene. They have to introduce Q in these prequels sometime and not just have him jump into Bond's missions with crazy gadets at the get go. He has to evolve through time.
The Daniel Craig Bond movies are prequels to the Sean Connery films. So the Q in these recent movies is Q when he was young and just becoming inventive.
Wow, I guess you think The Dark Knight Trilogy is a prequel to Tim Burton's Batman as well, eh?
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That makes no sense whatsoever. Did you even read my post?... Daniel Craig BOnd films are not reboots like Dark Knight. They are young Bond and are true to the books history. They start the story of BOnd before the Sean Connery and other actors portraying the same character as a continuing storyline. You don't know anything about Bond. I've been reading the books, short stories and watching the films since the 60's.
These two publications are what Daniel Craig's first two Bond films are from. The title and the complete storyline of them are true to Fleming's writings. "Casino Royale" Ian Fleming book release date April 1953 "Quantum of Solace" Ian Fleming Cosmopolitan short story release dateMay 1959
I like the new version of Q. I shows that the series is adapting to the times. Computers are more capable of doing things. I wish just wish he would have created more gadgets.
I believe in the up and coming films and as Q matures with the 00 program which later is just called MI6, he will then create more gadgets. Remember he just joined the program as of the last film and this 00 program is still in its testing phase which is why one of the villains Max, aka "C" has jointed the agency to evaluate its effectiveness. He wants to make it obsolete and end the 00 program.
If you noticed in Spectre, Q moves into the same location that "Old Q" was in for the older films. The building is the same. If you watch Die Another Day you can see Q's headquarters for his inventions is the same as in Spectre. So this is the start of Q's work space. He is just settling in, in Spectre. So the next film I am sure we will see Q much more advanced and lots more high tech gadgets. If we put all the movies together in order we have one long story of the same agent, including Money Penny and Q who also never change. "M" has been known to change in the books but is always called "M" no matter what the persons name although thus far all "M"s real names started with "M" and remained for anonymity. These other posters who want to change Bond's sex or race don't get the Bond 007 franchise. They think its like reboots of Batman, Spiderman or Planet of the Apes. It an unending saga and has never once started the stories over.
I am excited for the gadgets in the next movie. I feel they will be quite inovative compared to the older movies... I think we may need a seatbelt in the movie theater for the next film.