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How Old is Bond in this movie?....

posted 8 years ago by Thats_A_Print
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According to the movie Spectre when Bond looks at his adoption papers he was 12 years old in 1983 when adopted. So that means Bond was born in 1971. If the movies go by the current year in Spectre it would be in 2015 so that would put Bond at the age of 44 in this movie. But Spectre doesn't have to take place in 2015. It could be any year really. No political leaders are mentioned like Obama or such to prove the timeline. So Bond could be 34 in this movie for all we know.

Also considering it is a prequel timeline to Connery's Bond movies as said per Micheal Wilson one of the producers, Bond can't be that old. Again we could think of all the Bond movies put together to be just a 10 year period.
(note producer Wilson said it made no sense to have Judi Dench as M in the Daniel Craig movies as far as the timeline goes but they just didn't want anyone else for the part.(I agree it was a good but unexplainable choice for M.) This takes any question out of it being a reboot as it is not but only prequel films leading up to the Connery Bond timeline.) So Bond can't be that old. Its just that adoption paper Bond looked at in Spectre has got me questioning how old he really is and what year does the movie take place?....

Any other theories or confirmed info?

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[–] d-walsh4911 8 years ago

It's a reboot. Connery's bond was coldwar time. Craigs era is not. And even without that being said? It's still an obvious reboot. Not a prequel

[–] Thats_A_Print 8 years ago

Its not a reboot. It is a prequel in the timeline as said by producer Michael Wilson in the bonus features in an interview. Daniel Craig is BOnd before he became a 00 in Casino. Producer says these are "prequels" in the timeline of Bond films. When the movies start up with Connery back 5 decades ago, Bond then was a well established 00. Daniel Craig films are Bond in his youth. Even the producer Wilson said, it made no sense to cast Judi Dench as M but they couldn't do the film without her. SO he admits its the same timeline and it defies the laws of the timeline by taking a character and bringing her back in time before she existed in the storyline. So it is not a reboot. It is a prequel.
Casino Royale was written in 1953 and Quantum in 1959. Both were stories preqels to Connery Bond films. Sorry but we cannot deny the fact that the producer is calling Craig's Bond films prequels. I take his word over yours.

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[–] Jan_El_Senor 8 years ago

It is a prequel in the timeline as said by producer Michael Wilson in the bonus features in an interview.

He never said that.

Please stop.

[–] d-walsh4911 8 years ago

Hate to be a dick, but It's not a prequel, man. End of story. I don't know how you come up with this garbage.

[–] Skoony 8 years ago

Michael Wilson is a ducking fork. Don't listen to him. Even though he's somehow the producer of the Bond films.

If they are "prequels", how do you make out that he travels back in time to the 60's?

[–] ActionJunkie007 8 years ago

It's still an obvious reboot. Not a prequel

They changed courses so many times, it's really hard to actually pinpoint that. Bond begins, I mean CR, started out as a legitimate reboot. But SKyfall plays around with that aspect, and actually tries to revert CR/QOS to more of a prequel, taking place at the beginning of Bond's career.

Why isn't Leiter mentioned? Why does he have the goldfinger aston martin?? Why did New Q bring up his predecessors and quip about how HE wont be giving Bond an exploding pen? They actually did what I consider a soft reboot with SKyfall and advanced Craig's career to spiritually match where the series left off. That's the point of the "old ways are the best" and all the "past his prime, been in the game too long" stuff.

Spectre, though, cancelled out every thing SKyfall built and finally brought us back to Craig's career being on its own "reboot" timeline. So it's a bit of a mixed bag on what his era is because there were a lot of changes made. I know Spectre tries hard to make these 4 films fit into one linear structure/story, but no matter how hard they push it, you cannot get around the huge chuck of time that's missing when Bond went from a rookie in CR/QOS to past his prime/on the way out in SF/SP. What happened to Craig's prime, or as films 1-20 are labeled, his "seasoned veteran" days, hmmm???

Lost at sea, I guess...adrift...

Who's strangling the cat?

[–] d-walsh4911 8 years ago

But what is the point of Casino Royale/QoS then if Skyfall follows the old timeline? Are you saying Skyfall tries to make up for QoS. And Craigs bond could have gone through anything between those years between QoS and Skyfall. I suppose you could be right that it's a soft reboot. But if that's true, why is Q young in skyfall? I mean, he could be a replacement, but why does he have similar mannerisms to the old original Q? Not to mention Money penny...

[–] yurenchu 8 years ago

There was a thread a few months ago that noted a discrepancy regarding Blofeld's age; I don't exactly remember the specifics, but according to something in the movie, Blofeld would be 36 years old during the events in the movie (and hence younger than Daniel Craig). The question was raised how that's possible, given that (according to the movie) Blofeld is supposed to be Bond's older foster-brother.

In that thread I then offered a (theoretical) explanation of a "floating timeline": every three years, the characters in the Bond universe become only two years older. So between 1983 and 2015, which is a timespan of 32 years, Bond becomes only 21 or 22 years older. Although my explanation was merely meant as a joke, it did kinda work out.

(Unfortunately I can't find that thread back. Furthermore, I seem to remember that Bond was 10, not 12, in 1983; which according to my floating timeline theory would mean that he is 31 years old during Spectre, and that he is born in 1968, which is Daniel Craig's actual birth year.)

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[–] Thats_A_Print 8 years ago

Well I know from the books Bond was 38 when he became a 00 so the timeline here is not quite right.

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[–] Jan_El_Senor 8 years ago

Bond is Craig's age in Skyfall and perhaps a year or two younger than Craig in Spectre.

Please stop.

[–] smoke13 8 years ago

First of all, despite what anyone says, there's no way in hell this is a prequel to anything! Casino Royale was the first and only reboot and prequel to this franchise. With that said, regardless of any storyline, 36ish year old actors have always been cast as bond historically as that's the age were introduced to him in the books.

So if Craig was cast at 36 in 2006, he would be roughly 42 or 43 in this 2015 movie given that the events of QoS occur immediately after CR.

Regardless, this movie sucked, QoS sucked, skyfall was good, and CR was great. CR got bond back to the way he was depicted in the books, aka the real bond. This movie is so far from that and its a freaking joke.

[–] Thats_A_Print 8 years ago

Casion written in 1953 was held up due to its rights not being avaible to EON productions until 2005ish since CBS owned the rights and did a failed TV production of it . This was the first installment of the Ian Flemming books. So they were never able to do this as a film with Sean Connery. Quantum of SOlace was written in 1959 and is a sequel story to Casino Royale. Both writings by Flemming are prequels to all the other films. From this point there can be numerous 007 missions that happened before Dr.No. By doing a reboot it says EON productions is disqualifying all the other Bond films. In the special features not once do they use the word reboot and literally say it is the beginning of the Bond timeline connected to all the other films. Bond movies are feature films from Ian Flemming's books with a few liberties but still all based on his books.
This is NOT a reboot as said by producer at EON productions Micheal Wilson.
Yes the films have a new look since Daniel Craig came to be Bond but so does every long standing franchise. In order to make the film more relateable to modern day viewing audience the technology of the movie must be updated but update in technology does not equal reboot. Batman was rebooted from Tim Burton films with Nolan films using the same stories all over again, Joker, Two Face etc. Thats a reboot. Bond films are not a reboot but stories that lead up to the timeline of Connery and the rest of the actors who played Bond. No stories are being repeated. A reboot repeats stories already produced. EON productions are not going to do that. Its that simple. WHen the producer says its the same timeline not a reboot then that is what it is. Call it what you want in your mind but in reality Daniel Craig films are prequels.

Star Trek The Next Generation was not a reboot but a spin off as was Voyager, Enterprise etc. You could look at Star Wars eps. 1,2,3 as a reeboot if you are looking at technology but they are actually prequels. SO many people confuse the meaning of prequel and reboot. Bond films have not rebooted yet and from what the producers say Wilson & Broccoli they never will.

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[–] slim_sanders 8 years ago

Craig's Bond film's are not prequels to Connery's how can they be? Connerys Bond is post WWII and set in during the cold war. Craigs Bond is set in the modern age he uses a mobile phone for gods sake. How can you think its a prequel? Theyre both Bond but different Bonds. How can you not understand this?
If Michael Wilson said this it's because he doesn't know what the difference is between a prequel and a reboot.

[–] Thunder_Dome 8 years ago

I know there are things that don't work out quite right but I really like the theory that James Bond is a codename and not a man. It just explains so much. Yes I know the whole gravestone thing in Skyfall messes the theory up a bit but still it's the coolest theory.

[–] CuriousCase007 8 years ago

Christ.

James Bond isn't a codename. He's one man.

People need to stop focusing on a *beep* timeline. There is no timeline. And who gives a flying *beep* about how old Bond is in this film? The only thing to mention is that he's too old, and time for a recast with a younger, happier actor.

Done. Next topic.

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[–] Jan_El_Senor 8 years ago

it's the coolest theory.

It's retarded and easily obviously not the case if one simply watches the films and pays attention....

Please stop.

[–] Thunder_Dome 8 years ago

Something tells me you two don't smile much.

[–] Jan_El_Senor 8 years ago

I'm smiling right now, homey....

Please stop.

[–] bing-57 8 years ago

Well, he seems about 35 in his first appearance in 1964, so that'd make him about 85 now. He does look quite well preserved for an octogenarian.

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[–] armenianmovieman 8 years ago

I read that when Casino Royale was released Bond's dossier (and I think it is also visible at some point in Casino Royale) was visible on the 007 website, clearly stating a 1968 year of birth, just like Daniel Craig himself.

So he's 44 in Skyfall, presumably having gone through several missions between that film and Quantum of Solace. Spectre seems to take place a couple of months or maybe a year after Skyfall so Bond is about 46 max in Spectre.

[–] ndenton-1 8 years ago

NOT A PREQUEL!! Judy Dench the previous "M" is clearly seen in a photo and is clearly stated to have been killed by "Jr."