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SPOILERSS The goddamn brutality SPOILERSSSS


Jesus, teach dying in such a gruesome way, and in the goddamn end of it it wasn't even what killed him, a goddamn bullet to the head because he refused to go down, goddamn hero.
Also the general dude dying by teaches old mate was a nice eye for an eye situation.

And i'm definitely not brushed up on history of pictures and paintings, so how the *beep* did he have a tiny little painting of his wife and kid?

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Good God that was brutal. I never knew what a "keelhaul" was, if that's what you call it. Ouch. That was an embarrassing defeat, even though the pirates may have thought Teach was badass for enduring it--three times!

Why kill of Beringer so soon? RIP Beringer. Israel Hands killed a woman and child. The pirates at the plantation killed Underhill's wife and child. He himself lost a woman and child, it seems.

Both Beringer and Teach died trying to get revenge.

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Worst part is that they completely rewrote history. Teach didn't die like that in real life, this wasn't even the right captain to have killed him. Why do they insist in using real historical figures of which their deaths are well documented and then set about killing them some other way by some other person. Kinds of spoils the whole show when they do that because no longer are you able to accept it as how history was but instead it becomes a complete work of fiction.

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Nothing really wrong with fiction... And I like that I can be surprised if they stuck to history then when two people I know share some historical context meet I know plot points and can start to guess where it's headed...

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In the writers' defense, they've got a lot to do juggling Treasure Island, the real history of these pyrates, AND their own storytelling needs.

But this IS a work of fiction and we shouldn't really see it as historical. It's a lot of fun looking up the real histories, though.

I was kinda looking forward to seeing Blackbeard's head hanging from Maynard's ship, but the new death was...interesting. An pleasant unpleasant surprise.

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It isn't that hard though. Let the historical figures end up the way they ended. Deal with the fictional characters any way they like. And keep the Treasure Island characters (the ones that are alive in the book) alive.

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Have you not realized that whole show has been rewriting history from the start? Do you realize that all of the main characters besides Vain, Jack and Anne aren't real? You sound stupid. No wonder this board is shutting down, too many retards like you bitching and moaning for no reason.

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Teach, Hornigold and Rogers were also real.

"If I never meet you in this life, let me feel the lack"

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Yes I see exactly why these boards are shutting down.

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pssssk..PSSSSSSKK hey hey you, guess what sugar dumpling its a fictional show not a documentary, k?

Pointing me out on spelling is just one hell of a poor argument..

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Beringer was an annoying blood thirsty hick.
Now i can't wait till the general gets it & hopefully soon. He's no better than the pirates he's fighting, even worse i think.
But i'm annoyed that Teach died without leaving a mark on the show...did they really have to kill him off so soon? He barely figured in last season & this one hardly did much, or was stevenson so avid to leave quickly?


Let's go get a drink & smoke a cigarette

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Yea Teach felt so underused. He was such an imposing and badass character when introduced but then finally he amounted to not doing much at all. I guess they wanted him in the show but then didn't know what to do with him.

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Woodes Rogers is a sadistic bastard! I hope they kill him in this show. I want to see him die a horrible death.

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It was kind of funny how he kept staring down the pirates--first Teach and then Jack, constantly facing them while something is happening.

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no more then most of the pirates

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True but he was supposed to be better than a pirate otherwise what was the point of civilisation. That's what he kept saying.

Which would be worse - to live as a monster, or to die as a good man? 

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It WAS incredibly hard to watch. I was literally praying for some last minute intervention or a dead man's charge by the captured pirates to prevent what was happening.

I know he was a pirate and all and that pirates in general did some pretty horrid things, but I really hated that a character like that was ended in such a way. At least when Vane went down, he did so relatively intact, but Teach was just shredded.

I know the producers are making point about the brutality of war, and the cruelty that enters men's hearts when they prosecute a campaign in defense of something, even if merely an idea. Rogers has no real ties to Nassau, it's a means to an end for him.

Likewise, Berringer has no real ties to Nassau, he's just discharging his duties, but embraces the spectacle of violence, brutality and power.

In history, those sanctioned by governments committed acts of such brutality and savagery and are often hailed as heroes for doing so, for which we imprison and execute individuals for doing much the same.

In any case, Black Sails has been, as a series, a treatise about power, divided loyalties, human brutality and the Hobbesian assessment of life as nasty, brutish, and short.

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I felt the same way. I really like the duality of things that they show in Black Sails. Yes pirates did a lot of gruesome things but then those men that are supposed to bring them to justice end up being no better themselves.

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That was rough. He got Woodes in the end though by refusing to die the way Woodes wanted him to.

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It was Rocky winning over the Russian crowd has he refused to break under the pummeling he took from Ivan Drago. Rogers went from being a fierce leader to a petty, vindictive cruel man. Killing Teach at that point, even with a gun, pretty much de-fanged Woodes in front of his own men.

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He was one of the few famous pirates to actually die in battle. I would have preferred they kept it that way. Killing Vane before Teach is also inaccurate, but it worked for the story, as did Hornigold's changed fate, so I was completely fine with those.
This however felt like an unnecessary change. It made his fate to be pretty much Jack's fault, and also I felt the scene kind of dragged on.

All in all, what a waste for his character. Ray Stevenson is fantastic, and the character was interesting.

"If I never meet you in this life, let me feel the lack"

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XXXI was one of the best eps of series. Teach's death was awesome in a horror movie way. It was completely unexpected.

Also, I agree. How did Captain Berringer get such a small painting of his family?

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Also, I agree. How did Captain Berringer get such a small painting of his family?


LOL I am glad I am not the only one who wondered about that. Must have been the smallest paintbrush ever.

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Small paintings were very popular at the time among elites. It's not improbable that a captain in the army would be able to afford it.

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nah its not that hard, im an artist and I regularly do commissions where i'm painting or drawing that small.Example here's some eyes I did a while back wuth the pencil tip for scale yoo

https://plus.google.com/u/0/112771396129667626079/posts/S4YTcwLrZsd

Pointing me out on spelling is just one hell of a poor argument..

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