All because of a stolen car?! Really?
Guy Pearce's character and his Forest Gump companion drag their asses all that way merely to recover a stolen car? Come on! Just steal yourself someone else's!
shareGuy Pearce's character and his Forest Gump companion drag their asses all that way merely to recover a stolen car? Come on! Just steal yourself someone else's!
shareMaybe watch the film, dude?
I left about half way through. Just too dull. Fine acting and cinematography, but zero narrative drive.
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My God, it's full of stars!
You wouldn't finish the film but you decided to take the time out and create a post. You sound like real enthusiast.
shareI'm not sure what your point is. I created the post during the movie. I often do that in the hope of getting an 'on the fly' explanation of some plot point I'm stuck on.
As to whether I am an enthusiast; I most certainly am. I adore the cinema and watch several films per week (from Tarkovsky to Woody Allen to Coen Brothers to Dreyer whatever you like), so please don't imagine I am some kind of troglodyte.
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My God, it's full of stars!
You don't sound like it. This film had narrative undertones and asked the viewer questions. Great acting, great camera work, unique score, ect... What more do you want? All you got out of it was "Why didn't he just steal someone else's car?? If you couldn't see these things then you aren't paying attention. For an idea, what's your most anticipated film this year?
Ok, fair comment. I clearly wasn't fully engaged with it. Certainly the acting and cinematography were excellent.
Fave film of all time is Solaris (1972)
Fave films of 2014 so far: Two Days, One Night. The Congress. Her
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My God, it's full of stars!
Those are good films. I especially like "Her". Joaquin Phx is a phenomenal actor and can't wait to see him and Paul Anderson team up again for Inherent Vice.
This one is just tricky. It's almost like you have to be willing to fill in the blanks with clues and imagination. I believe that when this happens, it's actually more of a rewarding experience for the viewer than having everything spelled out. Who cares how the global collapse happened? The point is that's the world Guy Pearce lives in and it doesn't matter how it got to that point. The only thing he really cared about just got taken from him and he will do literally anything to get it back. He has no drive to go on living...he has nothing to live for,... So he just wants the ability to bury his friend,... That's all. You should give it a chance. However, it's a gritty violent film but has a poetic undertone. It's not for everyone.
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OK, so I have to ask. What WOULD make someone just go after a car??
Didn't you keep asking yourself that question?? I accidently read
something that I shouldn't have, so I had a better understanding
about why he might have wanted that car so bad, but I read it AFTER
I had watch about 10 minutes, AFTER he was chasing the 3 men. I
at first wondered: "OK, he has a truck that seems to be better
that the car, why does he need the...." Then it hit me: "OH... DUH...
There must be something IN the car, like in the truck perhaps, where
the 3 men can't, or haven't seen."
I haven't finished it yet, but I assume it will be something revealed
at the last moment, where we the viewers will go: "OMG!! THAT's why
he wanted that car so badly."
After I had read what I read by accident, it made more sense to me why
hed killed that little guy for the guns. It wasn't just to take the guns,
hell he could have just as well knocked him out right?
If you remember, the little guy did something just before he went into
the trailer. He threw a rock at a DOG! So basically he must of had a
dog, and this dog was like his kid, his child. So this dog of his just
died, and that is why he came in the 'bar' to have a 'drink'.
Just before he was going to bury his dog, that must be in the trunk.
So those 3 men basically stole a car with Guy's dead 'child' in it,
and that is why you always finish a movie, even if you have to FF it.
There has been many times where I was watching some obscure indie
horror movie that wasn't the greatest, but I always would get to the end,
even if I had to skip or FF some sections.
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Human life didn't seem to mean much to anyone in the film except perhaps Rey. There wasn't even much of a sense of self preservation. I think for Eric, the dog (all dogs held a similar place for him) was his last link to his humanity, something he felt responsible for and had a sense of devotion/responsibility to. I personally think he was pretty much done when he completed what he felt he needed to.
shareZycone, this movie isn't based in "these days" the film is based in the "Greater Depression" and all hell has broken lose. You have no idea what someone's mindset would be after a decade in that environment...
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You don't sound like it. This film had narrative undertones and asked the viewer questions. Great acting, great camera work, unique score, ect... What more do you want?
Is he supposed to be like able? IMHO, this is a reality of Michod's post apocalyptic scenario. There is no standard beginning, middle, and end. There are no heroes and there is very little humanity (except for the quickly snuffed out glimpses from Rey and perhaps the Dr). There is no fantasy here. Pearce's actions are a product of environment and experience-experience for which most of us know nothing comparable. I doubt you are supposed to empathize. Michod is posing a question that I don't think many want to face or believe-is this a potential near future? As bleak, depressing, and frightening as it is, I say yes.
shareOk forget about likeable. How about some character development?? I doubt anyone would deny that is a very important requirement, and that guy peirce had ZERO character development? He just went around murdering people for very little reason. You can have bleak and depressing but you still need character development.
Dont get drunk on the stylish nature of the movie. there still needs to be substance under that.
I thought the character was very well defined in the simple encounter he had with the soldier after his arrest. For me, the rest came through with the performances and the atmosphere Michod created. Perhaps I came in thinking similarly to Michod about what things might be like '10 years after the collapse'. It was very real and engrossing for me.
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I love it when people who don't "get" a film or what a director is saying and reply with the classic "There was no plot or and no character development" really? You expected character development in a few days of a guy that snapped and has nothing to live for??? Were you drinking during the film? Did you pay attention? What the *beep* man....mean, come up with a criticism that makes *beep* sense to the film. That's like ordering a non-alcoholic beer then complaining that you're not buzzed.
Guy Pearce's character was an anti-hero, he wasn't supposed to be a good clean action hero but a lonely depressed man who lost the last thing he had to care for. Character development? There is plenty, did you pay attention to the film at all? He didn't kill people just to kill them, his character lives in a world where there is basically no morals left. Why his dog? Because that is all he had left, why does it have to be a child. I am not really a fan of pets either but can you imagine if you lived in this broken world and the last thing that mattered to you was taken away? I strongly disagree, I thought The Rover was a masterpiece and my favorite film I have seen all year. To each their own.
sharebecause we've seen those things before.
a proper plot? are you serious?
Maybe if you weren't on your phone and causing a disturbance for everyone else in the theater you'd appreciate the film more, not to mention get an answer to the question you asked? It baffles me that a fan of Kubrick and Tarkovsky would have such a low attention span.
share"I'm not sure what your point is. I created the post during the movie. I often do that in the hope of getting an 'on the fly' explanation of some plot point I'm stuck on."
you must be a real joy to watch a movie with
Yes I found this movie dull boring and pathetic. A big waste of time indeed. No idea what it was about.
shareYou guys are acting like these are premeditated murders or actions committed by the main character . And it has no narrative drive because the film is focused on a more raw form of story telling . There are no villains , prophecy , or main event . I found it thrilling because there was no drive for the main character , he was determined to get his car back no matter what .
shareThat car and spoiler alert,...were the last things he had. The spoiler alert was probably his only friend. So yeah, I can believe in a post apacolyptic era that might be the thing to make me snap and go crazy. It had nothing to do with either of those 2 things. Goddamn you're simple.
shareI'm willing to forgive the OP for I guess just seeking attention... But Yes the last couple posts nailed it. Spoiler Alert (and perhaps his car) was maybe his last connection to the old world. The plot point in question is immediately and totally addressed during the REMAINDER OF THE FILM ;)
Good flic, intense, solid pacing and fantastic performances 8/10
The big point in this film was loyalty, the whole scene where Eric explains about murdering his wife really brings this home and one thing to note when you compare humans to dogs a dog is brutally honest, they will be loyal to you or avoid you no middle ground and judging by the size of the dog I would say it would have been between 12-16 years old so it would have been with him before The Great Collapse and stuck with him when his wife betrayed him, the country collapsed, law and order fell apart.
So as his dog died he lost his last thread to the just world of old and in the process of giving his friend a final rest some further waste of space remorseless people stole his car and his last reason for living.
The reason Eric grew to appreciate Rey was he was very honest, simple and possessed that dog like loyalty hence why he teared up at the end.
Also dogs are the best kind of people.
There was a lot more to it than just burying a dog. Remember when Guy's character told the MP that he found his wife with another man, having sex? At that moment, he felt betrayed, which is why he shot them both on the spot. Ever since then, he's felt that he can't trust anyone. And because no one went after him for the murders, he also felt like he wasn't worth anything - like he didn't matter at all. I think the dog was the only living thing that he felt cared for him. Dogs are fiercely loyal and show nothing but unconditional love to their owners. That's a characteristic he probably never found in anyone else years after murdering his wife.
Until he met Rey. He was beginning to trust again. I think it happened after Rey went back for him at the military base (if that's what it was). He just wasn't expecting Rey to show up and save him. (His face shows it.)
You can tell Guy's character cared for Rey after getting out of the car to help him. He could have just driven away, but didn't. Also, after Rey died...he cried for him.
So, basically Guy's character was repaying all that loyalty by giving the dog a proper burial, if you will. Yeah, most people wouldn't go through all that trouble. But obviously it was super important to him. (And it's not like he had anything to lose anyway.)
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There was obviously more to it than just the car, and the fact that you left early, i guess you don't get to find out what it was.
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Texting during a movie? What a *beep* pleb, go watch Transformers...
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