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Jim Jarmusch she is not

posted 10 years ago by jonhopper217
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Black and White film can be used to create atmosphere, mood or desensitize us and force us to concentrate on the characters and what they are doing. Jim Jarmusch has mastered this technique and so have some other recent films, such as The Artist and Ida. This sadly, does none of these. This movie was made for a certain crowd and it's not made for the average film goer, it is made for that select group who wants to like a movie and talk about it's bold approach and it's cinematography, not knowing there are real fans out there who have seen this all before and done well. The director never develops any of the characters and the idea that this was shot in anywhere other than East LA (or a similar place) is a joke (I'm assuming it wasn't shot in Iran). Despite the lovely Ms Vand giving it her all, she can't make up for the fact that we're never made to care about any of these characters. I've heard this film has been compared to both The Babadook and Only Lovers Left Alive and for the life of me, I'm confused. If anything, it could be compared to Let The Right One In, but that would be unfair, being that is one of the greatest films of the genre (both horror and vampire). I don't know enough about the director, but it felt like an elongated college film, by someone who simply chose the wrong writer to work with. Ten minutes less of the silly following and a little character development or explanation of anything other than "we're sad and lonely" would have been nice.

[–] simbob4000 10 years ago

The look of the movie reminded me more for Francis Ford Coppola stuff like Rumble Fish and Tetro than one of Jarmusch dumb black and white films.

When extolling Jarmush, this just seems kind of ironic you say:

This movie was made for a certain crowd and it's not made for the average film goer, it is made for that select group who wants to like a movie and talk about it's bold approach and it's cinematography, not knowing there are real fans out there who have seen this all before and done well.

May as well be fûcking talking about The Limits of Control or something.

[–] kmags84 10 years ago

Had me thinking the same *beep* thing lol... Such a contradiction

[–] gargarie 10 years ago

ltroi is pretty good, i think it's a stretch to call it one of the greatest horror movies though. it's probably one of the best vampire romances, but there's not a ton of competition for that title...

[–] jonhopper217 10 years ago

I'd argue that all vampire movies are romances.

[–] gargarie 10 years ago

i suppose you're right :) it's a fine film in any case.

[–] simbob4000 10 years ago

What about Salem's Lot?

[–] therefdotcom 10 years ago

so many words to express that you did not like it and otherwise have no discussable complain about the film. redundancy.

[–] jonhopper217 10 years ago

Cinematography
Character development
Themes
Plot
Similarities and difference to others it has been compared to
Overall feel vs intent

So aside from your reading comprehension, is there anything else I missed?

[–] marsbetr 10 years ago

You can blame Jarmusch just the same way for lack of character development in some of his most famous movies (Night on Earth for example). Shooting in b/w does not necessarily mean "copying Jarmusch". I do not see the point of this thread. JJ was the last one I thought about when watching this great movie tonight. It was at times intense, atmospheric and very unique.

As somebody else mentioned, at few moments I thought about Rumble Fish as well (and indeed there is the aquarium as a reference).

[–] simbob4000 10 years ago

The point of the thread seems to be to suck Jim Jarmusch's cock. I don't know, I don't really see anything of Jim Jarmusch in this movie. The observation seems to begin and end with the film being in black and white.

For me, while watching it I was reminded of Coppola's Rumble Fish (and to a lesser degree Tetro) and Tarantino...mostly True Romance, but also just other things in general too. I was actually surprised we never ended up getting a kill where we saw blood colored red.

[–] jhopp217 10 years ago

And there we have it. Official troll status. I appreciate the complexity of Jarmusch and ignored the silliness of Rumble Fish and s movie it us nothing like (Tetro), so now I'm gay. Simbob, people like you are why this board is avoided by most film fans. I'm sure that gives you a smile from ear to ear, but for most of us, it's about the film, not the odd self of self you get by calling someone you don't agree with a homosexual. Congrats on whatever you believe you've achieved.

[–] gargarie 10 years ago

And there we have it. Official troll status. I appreciate the complexity of Jarmusch and ignored the silliness of Rumble Fish and s movie it us nothing like (Tetro), so now I'm gay. Simbob, people like you are why this board is avoided by most film fans. I'm sure that gives you a smile from ear to ear, but for most of us, it's about the film, not the odd self of self you get by calling someone you don't agree with a homosexual. Congrats on whatever you believe you've achieved.

lol.....

[–] simbob4000 10 years ago

jhopp217 » 1 day ago (Sat Apr 25 2015 19:55:47)
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And there we have it. Official troll status. I appreciate the complexity of Jarmusch and ignored the silliness of Rumble Fish and s movie it us nothing like (Tetro), so now I'm gay. Simbob, people like you are why this board is avoided by most film fans. I'm sure that gives you a smile from ear to ear, but for most of us, it's about the film, not the odd self of self you get by calling someone you don't agree with a homosexual. Congrats on whatever you believe you've achieved.

No, your just blind...or maybe you haven't seen those other movies. If you can't see Rumble Fish in the way this movie is shot, as well as some other things like the main character and his heroin addict father...well, ok. And no one called you gay, (or anyone else for that matter) so you can quit being such a bitch. Note that I'm not saying you can quit being a woman or anything like that, wouldn't want you to fûcking sh!t again.

What makes this like a Jarmusch movie, other than not being in color which some of his movies also aren't? Is it because of some abstract "coolness"? Or are you just saying you like Jarmusch because I said he made some crappy movies? Because if it's the latter than, well, that's nice I guess. I like two of his movies, let's be friends.

Did you mean to say "SH!T movie it IS nothing like" and "odd SENSE of self"? Or is an "S" film better than an "A" film?

[–] clocksnmirrors-932-761321 10 years ago

Glad she's not Jim Jarmusch. I don't like his work.

[–] kmags84 10 years ago

That's an incredibly simple viewpoint... I saw a ton of inspirations in this film. From FFC to QT and a hint of Let The Right One In but i wouldn't exclusively use JJ as whotje director was "Trying" to imitate. I tthink it was paying some homage to the Glory Years of Vampire films. The Bela Lugosi era so to say... It helped the atmosphere and didn't make California stick out like a sore thumb.