Geddes blew the plan?
Why did Geddes decide not to pin it on Callis? That would seem to be a good plan. I know he's implicated with Skelos (via Brendan); but why would that affect his desire to work with Frank and pin it on Callis?
shareCallis wanted to make a deal to save his wife. Geddes figured that any deal that happened would involve Damon giving up all the info he knew on Skelos.
shareBut does Callis know about Skelos and Brendan's connection to Geddes? I know Kallis was planning on using Brendan when the show first started (he'd been cultivating him); but I'm not sure about knowing Geddes was involved. I guess that could be though.
shareEveryone is double crossing everyone it seems.
Anton Bobek was IA's confidential informant. He was there because Skelos wanted leverage to use against Brendan in the department (since he also worked for Skelos). Brendan was an assassin or whatever for Skelos (Joe cleaned up the crime scenes and they made all the reports say suicide). So, both Joe and Brendan were also on the Greek's payroll.
HOWEVER, Brendan was apparently gathering intel on Skelos for Damon to use. Maybe he was tired of being owned by the old man. Now my guess is Brendan was trying to find a way to get from under Skelos' thumb, figured if he murdered Anton, then gave Damon's insider stuff on Skelos to the department, he could maybe save himself. He didn't know HOW close IA was to him and still thought this could take Skelos down before.
BUT, Skelos got wind of this and told Geddes to murder McCann. Joe is a "cleaner" not a killer, so he sees a play to get Frank involved with Katia. He tells Brendan to use Katia to lure Anton Bobek into their trap, knowing that he can then use this as a story to tell Frank. However, he thought Brendan would kill both....he didn't have the stomach to kill Katia and lets her go. But he tells Frank she's dead anyways....
cj...this is an excellent synopsis!
How could anyone say not much is going on in LWS after reading that. :)
It really is a pretty compelling storyline--and it gets more complex and intertwined than many people are seeing by just looking on the surface. I think some people were just hoping for gunfights and car chases?
Well, I am not sure I have the correct reading (I've been wrong just as much as I have been right), but that's the way things seem to me.
shareI think you nailed it. I went back and watched a few scenes from the last episode again (wanted to see that showdown between Frank and Joe on the boat again...(a particularly great scene for Joe). After the second viewing, I'm up to speed with what you summarized.
shareI agree with okeelani that cj's description and breakdown seem very plausible.....well done
shareThat is a great synopsis. Thanks. I didn't figure that Skelos used Bobek in IA. I'm not saying you're wrong; but can you point to something that indicates that? I thought Bobek was just muscle for Skelos.
I thought Damon was trying to convince Brendan to do for him what he was doing for Skelos (killing people, setting up rival dealers, etc.).
I agree totally on the last paragraph though.
Well, Bobek was working with IA. Skelos seems to have his fingers in the police department through several officers. Nothing spells out that Skelos had Bobek as a mole of sorts other than circumstantial evidence. He also has Joe into him for a lot. Once Geddes started to see Damon give Brendan info on Skelos, and became aware of Mccann's plans, he'd let Skelos know about this.
THEN it would make sense that Skelos would have one of his guys become an informant on Brendan. He'd have a lot of stuff to feed IA on him if Brendan didn't stay in line.
Those two were playing a high stakes game.
All IMHO. It just makes so much sense.
No question about Bobek working for IA, I just didn't see him double-agenting for Skelos. Not saying you're wrong. In fact, I think it's intriguing and never said otherwise.
shareWell, I am not for sure I am right by any stretch. Just going over it in my head, it makes sense. Ever notice how Joe rarely seems to be THAT concerned with Boyd? At least not as concerned as Frank does. I think he believes that Skelos can get him out of it as long as the heat isn't too severe.
Here's my thinking. Skelos has a network where he learns things...not to mention he has Joe in his service. Joe tells Skelos Brendan wants out and is negotiating with Damon who has other crime info on the old man (obviously McCann would have a ton himself, but he'd be implicated in ALL of it). Maybe Brendan doesn't even want to roll on Skelos, he just wants the threat to make the Greek let him go.
Skelos gets Anton to contact the Detroit police initiating an IA investigation on Brendan BUT NOT Geddes. Somehow through his underworld and/or police network, McCann learns about the IA thing. Decides if he kills Anton and then immediately turns in Damon's info, he beats the IA rap. That's when Skelos tells Joe he has to murder Brendan. Geddes isn't a killer like Brendan though, which has been pointed out a few times to this point. That's one reason he pulls Frank in with the story about Katia....he needs someone else who is strong to help him because this isn't his thing.
Thank you, thank you for the recap. I've watched all the episodes but have been tuning out a little bit here and there. Now that it's getting juicy I was missing a few connections. Thanks!!
Does anyone this Katia had anything for Frank? The way he blew him off on the street seems like she was part of the plan from the beginning. Geddes might have set that up as part of the whole plan. You get a bit of insight in Episode 8. Why is she so cozy with Geddes?
Really curious to watch the UK version. Funny how both leads are English. That kind of casting trips me out every time, lol
After Episode 8 I think Katia did have a thing for Frank (even if not to the degree that he's obsessed with her), which makes it all the more sad.
shareHere I have to disagree? Didn't Geddes freak out when Boyd was brought in? I thought it was Frank that calmed him down (in an early episode).
shareWell, at first he may not have been sure about the IA probe was even coming and he had to make it look good. He often plays big for show after all. Usually when Frank and Joe are talking between themselves he is much more calculating ("Stay calm my brother," or "I'll worry about Boyd later," etc.).
I am not saying he's NOT concerned with Boyd, because if something straight out points at Geddes, he won't get away.
Also, he may not have known an IA investigation was forthcoming. Yes Brendan said "It's a big day tomorrow" in the pilot - but that was about Skelos and Damon. It's possible Skelos didn't keep him that in the loop, or Skelos may assured him any IA snooping around would die once Brendan did (as a way of convincing Joe TO kill Brendan).