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It's a great show, and it's too good for a lot of people.


If you've seen Dexter's awful, detached, uninteresting, predictable, rushed and uninspired ending (... the last 4 seasons), with the same pain staking expression of disbelief in your face, and have rather been sucked into the brilliance of Breaking Bad that shone like a diamond for 5 years... AND if you where a sucker for McNulty and The Bunk on The Wire, or the inspiring Treme, this is the only thing on right now that will feel REAL and ravishing.

I don't get some people who say it's boring and what not, this show is as good as going to a live theatre... I've rarely seen such good acting and the story and writing - albeit pretty simple - is top notch. I'm eagerly awaiting the closure and a second season. It feels like it's too good for most people who only want a constant dosage of clichés and mediocre acting.

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a constant dosage of clichés and mediocre acting.
Sounds like you're describing this show to a T.

"All in the game..." - Omar Little

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You're right. It's very good and not at all boring. Maybe a little too dark and introspective for some people and perhaps that's why they think it's boring. I'm older and I can live with a slow paced show but it seems as if a lot of younger people want constant action without the build up, which usually isn't really how life unfolds.

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OP....I completely agree with everything you said.
And I really think people just default to the usual ("It has too many cliches") complaint because they want to gripe but can't think of anything specific to complain about. Ironically, saying it has too many cliches is a very cliched complaint, and lacking any real substance.

Besides, good luck finding ANY story that doesn't have cliches all through it. The very best works of literature, theater, stage, etc....are rife with cliches. The Godfather...Shakespeare...Moby Dick....The Bible.....all have tons of cliches. So really, enough with this particular complaint. It means nothing.

Boring? Bad writing? Please....it just means some people are too AADD to sit still long enough to take this in and let it unfold. For them I say...just go back to Grand Theft Auto 19.

In my opinion, LWS started out very intriguing and interesting....started a slow burn....and unfolded into a surprising and gut-wrenching finale. Great stuff. I hope there's a second season. But if there isn't...I almost feel this story closed perfectly, and it may feel odd to revisit the characters in new story arcs. It really did feel kinda like a mini-series.

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Ahhhh.... the 'dumb people just don't understand 'good art' argument.

First off... LWS is not a terrible show, but it's not a great one at that. The fact that there is nothing else on as remarkable as BB, The Wire, and Treme (all excellent shows) does not elevate this show to the same level of greatness. No in fact it draws unnecessary comparisons to shows that 'got it right'. Like it's sister show "The Killing" it's a show that aimed high but delivered a middling performance. What it benefited in good acting... it lacked was in plot development and story structure. A show that delivered too little story for too many characters. What you consider 'good story' I say was disjointed and paced problematically. What you see as good writing I see as a show struggling under the weight of various scenarios and plots it set up with little connection or meaning to the main narrative. It still didn't answer the main question of the entire show? Is Frank Agnew a good cop? As evidenced by his actions in the final episodes, obviously not.


The show definitely had promise but unlike The Wire, BB, The Sopranos, Treme it lacked the clear confidence to focus on a single narrative and muddied the waters trying to be a larger indictment on Detroit and the people and crimes that inhibit it. This is like 'The Wire'-lite... a show that should never try to be reproduced. Remember the brilliance of The Wire was equal billing to all perpetrators and victims of crime in Baltimore. It was scripted as a 'day in the life' rather than a noirish police drama. There were moments in LWS I enjoyed but more that I found just frustrating. I will admit watching BB ride into the sunset at the top of it's game possibly soured my experience with this show. Perhaps this should have been broadcast in Feburary (actually during winter) when the summer schedule isn't so competitive. I don't mind a 'slow burn' as long as the show takes great pains to have me care about the characters. I loved Deadwood. A show that balanced many supporting characters as it fleshed out the main characters. I watch Downton Abbey. No police shootouts or drug dealer executions on that show... just tons of character development piled upon drama. I would watch a 2nd season of LWS but I would want the show significantly retooled. And more Boyd... alot more Boyd.

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Yes, Boyd was so incongruant to the rest of the cast and characters...that every scene he was in created a spark. And his tantrum in the finale was so unexpected for a person who has always been logical and in control. I loved the final shot....a man who has clearly drifted into obsession.

It's interesting how Detroit is a key character in LWS. It represents something as broken and corrupt as the characters themselves.

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