Season one was a very interesting season. Story was compelling, the characters, everything. Season two wasn't so good and season three was not worthing mentioning (it was incredibly bad).
I think the great problem is that the writers were not the same as in season one (s01 were the series creators, right?). This new crew simply didn't got the characters, they destroyed everything Roman, Peter and even Olivia were.
I could be wrong about this, but I think S1 was based on a book and the rest were not. That's the big difference I think. They took what they had from season 1 and had to figure out story lines on their own.
"I saw it move too!"-Mo Rutherford
I think probably both things contributed. They had to figure out what to do without a book guiding their ways, and totaly new writers. I mean, the way I see things, he new staff didn't have the same view about the characters as the previous one.
shareI agree the first season was much better. The second is much darker. The writers depend on impending doom, gore, depressing situations, and bad decisions too heavily. There are no normal happy characters mixed in with the crazy supernatural ones. It's like the writers only know the one literary device.
Whatever the reason, the first season worked much better
It's like they had the interns watch soap operas and all the seasons of Vampire Diaries and then asked them to stick an ending to this show. I am so mad at the writers! Season 2 had its flaws, but this last season is utter garbage.
shareActually I do like one soap opera, General Hospital, which I have watched with my mom since elementary school, ha. Though I absolutely hate Vampire Diaries, always have. I watched it once and hated it. I did love True Blood. That being said I am totally bored by season 3 and keep falling asleep trying to watch it. What a total let down. No wonder it is cancelled. I do hope Landon and Bill find other shows to be on, since they are incredibly talented.
shareActually I do like one soap opera
Hmm. Kinda reminded me of a CW show.
shareThese S3 writers were some of the most stupidest writers in History, practically took out the Supernatural plot of the story and added Theme plots.
*beep* up the whole watching experience of the series.
They just ruined the whole series for me.
If I had any physical copies of this *beep* I would smash it to pieces.
Yeah, it was pretty bad.
I liked the Pryce stuff.
The Olivia storyline was okay, I would have preferred if they had focused more on her relationship with Annie rather than wasting all her scenes on Issac.
The Shelley storyline was another waste, she was my favourite character from s1&2 but sticking her with the homeless guy was just creepy. Someone more age appropriate would have been better.
The Peter/ Destiny storyline was awful.
The Peter/ Roman stuff was awful.
The Roman/ Annie stuff was okay but was it really necessary for him to fck her? Did he have to fck every hot girl on the show, including 2 of his sisters ?
The Spivak plot-line was the most interesting but they just completely wasted it by spending too much time on all the other crap.
The only reason I didn't totally hate s3 was because no-one got redeemed & everyone basically got what they deserved in the end. I'm so over truly despicable characters getting happy endings just to keep fans happy. Let them all die, that's fine by me. I did feel sorry for Annie, she seemed pretty decent. At least her death was by her own choice & a sacrifice for the greater good. Although, I did think Olivia stealing Annie's body but then being killed by Roman's security team would have been a more ironic ending. lol
Shelly got her much-deserved happy ending.
shareThe first letdown was the last episode of season one. From there, it just kept getting worse.
Maybe the fact that Eli Roth bailed on the series somewhere in the middle of season one had something to do with it.
They seemed to resort to black comedy to end it. Olivia going, 'Bip, bip, bip'
and eating herself, Pryce making a lot of wild wisecracks towards the end, the dark comedic exchanges betwixt Olivia and Chango, and the deadpan humor of the head of the homeless enclave, were pretty amusing.
In the end, all of the characters other than Shelley and Peter were a bunch of slime bags, and deserved to die.
Famke J. is working on a movie version of what my fave novel of all time, William Gaddis' "JR", so that's what drove me to watch HG.
for me season 1 was ATROCIOUS until about the 6th or 7th ep. then it got really good. i, for the most part, loved season 2. season 3 was ok but not great. the whole drug/mob/Destiny's lame fiance thing and the god awful Chango thing are what i hated most about this 3rd season. oh and too much time spent on Olivia's growing insanity and not anywhere near enough time spent on Spivak and his plan.
shareI completely agree with you!
What in the hell happened? Brian McGreevy, the author of the Hemlock Grove novel, has writing credits listed for all 33 episodes. It makes no sense that Season 3 (and parts of Season 2) seems to have no reference to major character information clearly defined in Season 1. Many of the characters' traits and/or abilities completely disappeared, or were no longer used. Here's a few examples:
Roman — He has the ability to control minds by sharing a glance with a person and stating a command. Why doesn't he use this ability against Dr. Chausseur (so she'd leave Shelley alone)? Why not use this ability against Leitha, to keep her from being interested sexually in Peter, rather than threatening Peter not to sleep with Leitha (Season 1)? Couldn't he have stopped the "religious crazies" in his home (with the laser-crossbows) by the power of suggestion? How about using this power against Dr. Pryce, whenever he wanted the truth? Lastly, he could have EASILY used this power on Destiny, instead of killing her. These people are just humans. (Roman started his treatments before my last two points, but he was supposed to regain all his powers because he never received the last treatment.)
Shelley — She's supposed to be SEVEN FEET TALL. Enough said.
Dr. Pryce — Um... He USED to have freakish, super-human strength. Please explain how a disoriented, partially drugged, food delivery guy got the best of him???
Destiny — Shouldn't a TRUE psychic already know that her fiancée was not only into dangerous, shady dealings, but also that he slept around on her constantly? Just by touching him, she should have known (S2 & S3).
Like I had mentioned in an earlier thread, the writing was disoriented perhaps because the writers were forcing the pieces together for a series finale.
shareYeah I wondered that too. It's really weird.
My guess is that he couldn't have used his powers on destiny because she was a witch - but he could have been much smarter and also more powerful. The storylines just gone completely to *beep* especially destinies death.
What in the hell happened? Brian McGreevy, the author of the Hemlock Grove novel, has writing credits listed for all 33 episodes.
The idiot writers violated the ten basic 'rules' of writing a mystery/horror series. The one you're discussing is:
TIP FIVE: BECOME A BOOKKEEPER
Keeping track of details is especially essential when writing a series. Create a
handy chart where you list each character's physical attributes and backstory,
plus her preferences for things like music, books, hobbies, and fashion. Each
time you start a new book in the series, check to be sure that if Virgil has a son
in book two, he still has a son in book three.
http://ericmaisel.com/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2011/07/ten_tips_for_writing_mystery_series.pdf
Yeah, it didn't make much sense. It's clear they tried shoving most of their future plans into one season. It became less about a weird backwoods town where freaks hide in plain site and more about lame family drama and apocalyptic nonsense.
Destiny - was an actual witch masquerading as a back alley charlatan. Her visions were cryptic and her spells were elaborate and killed her every time she used them. Now she whips up visions by chanting a few words and can't even see Andreas is a scumbag.
Roman - was a spoiled rich kid that longed for real affection. Peter was more of a soul mate than a good friend. He could also make people do what he wanted by staring at them. Now he's a psychotic ego-maniac and he kills people for no reason, including his best friend.
Shelly - A Frankenstein probably the only character that had a consistent arc. Because it's hard to *beep* up such a simple concept. Frankenstein's monster. Period.
Olivia - Scheming immortal matriarch that could tear through a skilled vampire hunter like tissue paper. Seems to know more about the weirdness of this town than most. Now, a dingbat that doesn't even know other upir are living right under her nose.
Peter - Cursed biologically (stigma against gypsies) and cursed supernaturally (werewolf). His gentle, friendly demeanor betrays the monster people expect him to be. He's the anchor that keeps Roman from going over the deep end. Now, he's a hot-head con artist that runs with a gang? Why couldn't they bring back Lilly Allen? His mother would've never let him get involved with those people. Peter, himself, even tried to keep his distance.
Pryce - Ambitious doctor that only puts up with demanding Godfrey's because they have unlimited resources that allow him to perform all kinds of experiments. Runs the "White Tower" like a veritable house of horrors with all kinds of morally questionable experiments. Also suffers from "hysterical strength." Punching bag. If it's not Olivia ordering him around, it's Roman snapping orders.
Andreas - Newer character but he was interesting. I thought he might've worked for the gov't or The Church, but he just ended up being a low-life crook. Yawn.
It's like all three seasons were completely different shows. I did love the addition of Blinsky, though. His begrudging admiration and servitude towards Pryce was great.