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Enjoyable, slightly predictable and shocking (some spoilers)

posted 11 years ago by Viking1983
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I watched this on saturday night after hearing bloody-disgusting.com keep going on about how great this was, I did love the build up of the father character after he kidnapped the suspect, the way he told the police officer about psychopaths, I am still slightly confused about the ending was the suspect the real killer of the guys daughter or did he only kill the police mans daughter? and how the heck did he know that girl was the police mans daughter in the first place? also was predictable he was the killer quite early on overall a pretty good film, loved the vilence as it was realistic and loved the humour 7/10

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[–] stemal-1 11 years ago

Big spoiler.

Yes he was the (serial) killer. When he tells the father where the head is buried, we think he is lying as the cop advised him. But it is exactly where he said it would be. We know this because the father comes back and tells the killer he will make it quick. He has earlier told the killer that if he tells him where the head is, he will put him out of his misery but if he doesn't he will torture him.

Also, the father explains the killer's MO, including the fact that he gives the girls food with sedatives (I think specifically cake). And we have seen him earlier feeding cake to the cop's daughter.

[–] Bagelbutcher 11 years ago

Thanks a lot for clearing that up, stemal-1....I thought the killer was giving that cake to his own daughter because it was her birthday, but now understand that it was the cop's daughter. After all, the killer's wife didn't want him anywhere near their daughter. Cool! Now I can rate the film! 9/10

[–] stemal-1 11 years ago

Happy to help bagel.

The birthday cake was a bit unfair, as I don't remember any reference to it being the birthday of the cop's daughter as well. We know he's just bought her a mobile phone but it's implied it's for her safety.

[–] therefdotcom 11 years ago

i immediately got the hint, but forgot about it shortly after, so it did not come as a huge surprise at the end of the film.

"laugh and the world laughs with you. Weep and you weep alone." - Dae-su Oh

[–] magiccornflake 11 years ago

The ending was truly horrifying, it immediately made me think of a real life case of a Belgian child serial kidnapper/rapist/killer. He kidnapped two girls of about the same age as the girl in the movie and hid them in a "dungeon" behind a supplies closet for months. The police also came and searched his house, couldn't find anything. They did hear some screams, but thought they were coming from outside ...

As if that ain't bad enough, the kidnapper got arrested and sentenced to jail for another crime so he ordered his wife (who knew everything) to feed the girls until he came back, but she was too scared to enter the dungeon, so the girls died of hunger and thirst.

The guy (or monster) said that one of them still lived when he came back after four months of detention, but experts said that was near impossible since the girls would have been without supplies for 4 months.

It all happened nearly 20 years ago, but it still sends shivers down my spine every time I think of it, especially since I have a daughter now ...

[–] TheDanMan1 11 years ago

Ok, but if he did kill the original victim, why was the final victim still clothed (and not violated), nor mutilated along with her toenails ripped-off and her fingers broken, and ultimately beheaded in the same fashion if that was his MO..!?

***I think he simply kidnapped/murdered (somehow) the cops daughter as revenge for the humiliation he went through for being falsely accused and the real killer remained unknown and the cake he had was for his own daughter whom he was forbidden to see on her birthday.

[–] therefdotcom 11 years ago

unlikely. the hidden room was obviously done to use it on more than one occasion. also, it is a bit absurd, that as a revenge plan the dude would kidnap the cops daughter. and then what? just let her go? she clearly could have identified him.

"laugh and the world laughs with you. Weep and you weep alone." - Dae-su Oh

[–] stemal-1 11 years ago

Dan, if by the last victim you mean the cop's daughter, I don't think she was dead yet. Remember, his plans were slightly interrupted by his abduction!

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[–] rmkeltz78 11 years ago

When the cop is talking to his daughter early on in the movie she did mention how the phone was the best birthday present ever so somewhere within a couple days of that conversation it was kind of insinuated that it was her birthday

[–] stemal-1 11 years ago

rmkeltz, if you're right I missed the birthday reference. I thought it was just a present to try and keep her safe.

[–] rmkeltz78 11 years ago

It may have been a translational issue, the version I saw had hard-coded subs, and I can't find an English .srt/text subtitle file to see if it says different and I've already deleted the movie from my computer so I can't watch that scene again. Though that would be a pretty big blunder on a translator's part if she instead just said it was the best present ever and not the best birthday present ever

[–] therefdotcom 11 years ago

isn't it convenient for the writers that out of coincidence the killers daughter and the cops daughter share the same birthday? that's not far fetched at all? ;)

"laugh and the world laughs with you. Weep and you weep alone." - Dae-su Oh

[–] rmkeltz78 11 years ago

Of course it's convenient, because otherwise they would have to come up with a more in depth and well thought out storyline...by putting the killer's daughter and the cop's daughter's birthdays within a few days of each other it makes them easier to write in their so-called twist at the very end. It's an obvious trend in Hollywood movies to write in 'coincidences' like this, I wasn't sure how far their influence had reached though; you don't see these as often in say, French or Asian horror/thriller type movies as much (which in my opinion is where we currently can find the best of these types of movies). Apparently though Israeli movies take a page from the Hollywood template, or at least these writers were influenced by it. In the end, it is convenient and a bit far fetched, but not impossible, it's not like they threw it in as a deus ex machina because they wrote themselves into a corner, they probably just went that route from the beginning because it was easier.

[–] therefdotcom 11 years ago

very well said.

"laugh and the world laughs with you. Weep and you weep alone." - Dae-su Oh

[–] Genesis1975 11 years ago

I'm a little annoyed by the ending personally.

Somehow, the serial killer guy abducts a policeman's kid - or any kid for that matter - and gets her back to his house without anyone seeing anything? No one saw him at the ballet building, no one saw him talking to her afterwards, no one saw him taking her into the apartment? What a risk that would be when the heat is on in a big way. Wouldn't he have realized that eventually they'd get a search warrant and be looking through the house properly?

Also...this is a serious series of murders, are they to tell us that a team of cops weren't dispatched to look through the pedofile's house? And would they not have found that hidden room?

One guy was sent to look through and he didn't find what appeared to be a fairly obvious hidden room?

I dunno...I thought the ending would be that the cop gets the pedofile out of the place and helps him escape - believing him - when the camera pans slowly to the hole the father had dug - complete with the head.

Or, the cop leaves him there, the father kills him and then the cop gets back to the cop shop the next day and the suspect is in custody without any question it's him who did it all.

Good film, not a great ending IMHO.