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100 THINGS I LEARNED FROM WATCHING "THE 5TH WAVE"...


This checklist was sadly missing. But not anymore ...

1. When (people purporting to be) the US Army comes to your refugee camp, take your kid brother, and massacre all the adults, you would still want to hike to the Army base to which they took your brother, and still think that that might be a "safe place."

2. When you're an enemy force and you've just massacred a group of refugees (having taken several casualties yourself), do not gather up all the guns and materiel of your fallen. Better to leave all that for any humans that might come across the scene.

3. When you scavenge a rifle off of a soldier, don't consider also picking up a few extra clips; just grab the rifle.

4. When you shoot your pistol, shoot it randomly behind you. And make sure you use up the whole clip.

5. When you are shot by a sniper and wake up in someone's house, you shouldn't wonder at all how your rescuer could possibly be a "good guy." You won't ask how this good guy got to you and dragged your body away without the "bad guy" getting both of you. You won't suspect that your rescuer is a "bad guy."

6. People who get shot in the leg by a rifle are unconscious for 7 days. They can lie in bed unconscious, without a nasal tube to feed them, without a urethra tube to catch the urine, without diapers(!) And when they wake up, their face will look lightly touched up with makeup, their hair will look showered and blow dried-- they will not look like they've lain in a bed for 7 days with greasy hair and wallowing in their own excrement.

7. Young people camping and living outdoors always have great hair.

8. Only one hybrid alien exists (Evan) who has super-human powers. No one else is like him. Plus, Evan can fall in love.

9. If Evan professes his love for you-- make sure you fall in love with him. Your life depends on it.

10. Also, never fall out of love with him [see above].

11. Evan can single-handedly destroy an air base, even if they are ostensibly populated by alien hybrids just like him. Except there's only one Evan [see above].

12. A 15 year-old human girl can easily beat, in hand to hand combat, a alien (possibly alien-hybrid) adult, ostensibly trained in warfare. Her chosen method is manual strangulation.

13. An entire base of aliens will always turn tail and run when confronted by a single renegade alien: they have no choice but to mass evacuate their entire base, rather than fight back.

14. Evan always has access to all sorts of bombs. Some of which can cause catastrophic sinkholes.

15. Kids know where to shoot someone in the torso, with an assault rifle, so as to cause the least possible organ damage (or none at all).

16. After a torso gun shot wound, a simple bandage is all you need and you're ready for any subsequent combat activity. (If this were a LEG injury, you'd of course be out of commission for 1-2 weeks, but a torso gunshot is just fine.) You can run at full speed, no problem.

17. Whenever you're a commanding officer and someone has a gunshot to the torso that wasn't fatal, be suspicious: it's obviously self-inflicted.

18. If you are a kid and faking that you're the sole survivor of an combat ambush, DON'T appear to be shaken or upset that everyone in your platoon was killed but you. Sure, it's a "bad day at the office", but it's nothing to be upset about.

19. When an alien being is unsure that you know he's an alien and he challenges you: by all means, confirm his suspicions. Instead of letting him keep pretending he's human, let him know you know he's an alien. That way, he doesn't need to waste any more time and he can execute you immediately.

20. Humans can run in and out and around aliens, even snatching human children in line for evacuation, and no one will mind.

21. Aliens will go to the trouble of implanting trackers in human children, but will never actually track them. Nor notice that those trackers have gone dark (because they weren't tracking them).

22. When aliens engineer a heads-up display for a helmet that enables the wearer to surreptitiously see his foes, they will nevertheless also include a head lamp on the helmet that illuminates the soldier's head for all his foes to see.

23. Aliens with vastly superior technology will nevertheless always stoop to using Earth technology when they actually get into a ground war on Earth.

24. Young-adult alien invasion movies require an end credits song by Sia Furler.

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I'm confused like did you watch the movie

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Because if I remember she went to the base to save her brother not trying to get there to be safe. Also her dad just died and if I saw that I wouldn't be nearly as brave as her and walk in there let alone go in there find her dead father and look at him and take a gun. She was in shock idk if I had done that if I'd grab some ammo. Also she tried running away from Evan? Soooo.....

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21. They do notice that their trackers are out but they thought that they went crazy (or Dorothy for people who read the book) like Ben told the base.

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Unless that only happened on the book not movie... Can't really remember.

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LMAO! I love this post!

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Add these few.
- one of the prior waves was a global EMP that would fry everything that had a circuit, battery or a celluloid in it ( like motor vechicles). So when the army shows up in trucks and buses that are still working and that there are still electrical lights and computers still working, don't suspect that something is wrong here.
- in post apocalyptic times after an alien invasion, a goth street punk girl can still get mascara to do her eyes.
- When destroying a base and rescuing your kid brother, don't do any of the following that might just help your side out a little bit. 1) grabbing a few more of those scanners. 2) grab some more weapons and ammunition, 3) takeout the command center and download some of those computer files (and maybe a laptop or tablet computer too) that might tell you where the drone sectors are, where the others' bases are, and the areas where humans resisting are, and 4) save a few other kids too.
- after realizing that you are being used to be the 5th wave and used to kill surviving humans, don't bother to think these two thoughts: the fact that the others are using human kids to fight their war, that maybe there is a lot fewer Others than humans still surviving. 2) that the others might have just sterilized you so that no un-controlled human births can happen. Yeah, expect a P.D. James "The Children Of Men" twist coming here.
Update: list these as 27, 28, 29-33, 34, and 35.

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First of all, EMP won't destroy shielded devices. It would be very strange if military didn't have shielded computers and equipment. Strong EMP is part of the nuclear explosion, so obviously this is accounted for. Secondly, don't you think that military can actually REPAIR cars and ammunition after some of it was short-circuited ?

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Actually, you are segueing a lot of the same argument I was making on another thread about the EMP pulse fro the side an user would do so that their own side wouldn't be affected by the pulse. However, your argument fails in a major area. It would most certainly apply to military vehicles. But did you see what they used to pick up the kids in? A yellow school bus. I doubt the military would be shielding those from an EMP attack. So if the colloids, wiring, headlights, spark plugs and batteries in those got fried, the military would have to ether search for the right parts (which the pulse probably fried also) or manufacture new replacement parts. From the conditions stated in the film. It looks like the nanufacturing facilities needed to make those part got taken out too. However, this drew my attention to few more things I can cite.

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This is one of the misconceptions about EMP. A strong blast will damage on-board computers and similar electronic stuff, but it will not melt the wires. The wiring in the car is just too short and metallic covering of the car itself serves as additional shielding. You can google misconceptions about EMP, it's one of the most common. Even if some damage is done the repairing is very simple, you don't need to manufacture anything.

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Interesting answer, but it doesn't fallow the logic in the film's story. In the film, all electrical circuitry is fried including cars since today's cars have sensors that feed into a car's computer system. Yes, today's cars have a computer and sensors in them. That is why Evan's car was an older car before modern car onboard computer control systems. Even you had mentioned

A strong blast will damage on-board computers and similar electronic stuff,...
Anyway, in the film, cars were taken out. Do you remember that Cassie and her family had to hike to the refugee camp? Yeah, they did. That made the highway scene and the army rolling into camp unquestioned even more ridiculous. But then I understand that the book is very different from the film. This is supposedly to be a very bad adaptation of the book.

Also notice how the EMP pulse caused airplanes to fall out of the sky and crash, but the helicopters that the Others used, at the end of the film, flew just fine with no problem at all.

Now to reality. I did look it up and one source both confirmed and discredited portions of your argument. While your said
The wiring in the car is just too short and metallic covering of the car itself serves as additional shielding.
https://survivalblog.com/guest-article-six-common-misconceptions-about-emp-by-g-b-phd/ had said
The firstโ€“ a โ€œfast-pulseโ€ EMP field, also referred to as E1โ€“ is created by gamma ray interaction with stratospheric air molecules. The resulting electric field peaks at tens of kilovolts per meter in a few nanoseconds and lasts a few hundred nanoseconds. E1โ€™s broadband power spectrum (frequency content from DC to 1 GHz) enables it to couple to electrical and electronic systems in general, regardless of the length of their cables and antenna lines. Induced currents range into the thousands of amperes, and exposed systems may be upset or permanently damaged.
The secondโ€“ a โ€œslow-pulseโ€ phenomenon referred to as magnetohydrodynamic (MHD) EMP, or E3โ€“ is caused by the distortion of Earthโ€™s magnetic field lines due to the expanding nuclear fireball and the rising of heated, ionized layers of the ionosphere. The change of the magnetic field at the Earthโ€™s surface induces a field in the tens of volts per kilometer, which, in turn, induces low-frequency currents of hundreds to thousands of amperes in long conducting lines only (a few kilometers or longer) that damage components of long-line systems, including the electric power grid and long-haul communication and data networks.
Then it confirmed your position but it used the word "Tend", as a qualifier and conditioner to say that there will be some cars will be affected by an EMP.
Misconception 1:
An EMP Will Cause Every Exposed Electronic System to Cease Functioning.

Based on the U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) and Congressional EMP Commissionโ€™s EMP test databases, small, self-contained systems, such as motor vehicles, hand-held radios, and unconnected portable generators, tend not to be affected by EMPs. If there is an effect on these systems, it is often temporary upset rather than component burnout.

On the other hand, threat-level EMP testing also reveals that systems connected to power lines are highly vulnerable to component damage, requiring repair or replacement. Because the strength of EMP fields is measured in volts per meter, the longer the conducting line, the more EMP energy will be coupled into the system, and the higher the probability of damage. As such, the electric power-grid network and landline communication systems are almost certain to experience component damage when exposed to an EMP with cascading effects to most other (dependent) infrastructure systems.

Misconception 2:
EMP Effects Will Have Limited, Easily Recoverable, โ€œNuisanceโ€ Effects on Critical Infrastructure Systems.

Although an EMP would not affect every system, widespread failure of a significant fraction of electrical and electronic systems will cause large-scale cascading failures of critical infrastructure networks because of the interdependency among affected and unaffected systems. Mathematician Paul Erdosโ€™s โ€œsmall-worldโ€ network theory applies, which refers to most nodesโ€“ equipment attached to a networkโ€“ being accessible to all others through just a few connections. The fraction of all nodes changes suddenly when the average number of links per single network connection exceeds one. For example, a single component failure, where the average links per node is two, can affect approximately half of the remaining โ€œuntouchedโ€ network nodes.

For many systems, especially unmanned systems, loss of control is tantamount to permanent damage, in some cases causing machinery to self-destruct. Examples of this include:

Lockup or not being able to change the โ€œonโ€ or โ€œoffโ€ state of long-haul communication repeaters,
Loss of remote pipeline pressure control in supervisory control and data acquisition (SCADA) systems, which communicate with remote equipment,
Loss of generator controls in electric power plants, and
Loss of machine process controllers in manufacturing plants.

Maybe the "Unconnected" part is a big deal because in Spielberg's version of War of the Worlds (2005), all the cars with celiods and generators in them were taken out by a EMP but able to restart once the celiods were replaced.


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One poster mentions 'celluloids', another talks about 'colloids' and here we have cars with 'celiods.' Are any of those anything like a solenoid? <G>

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25. It might be the end of the world, but you must remember your numerous sticks of eyeliner.



It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog

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26 .This movie sucks so bad that posters can't be bothered finding more things wrong with it .

Time to make the Chimi *beep* Changas

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Since everyone is numbering their things that they learned from this picture, I am retroactively numbering my suggestions as 27 to 35.
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36. Any movie called The Fifth Wave is going to suck badly.

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The OP's list is a big FAIL. Certainly not the brightest ๐Ÿ’ก

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When at the range the Beretta m9 doesn't have any recoil ;)

Btw- gun magazine not clip

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That is number 37.

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