'A young girl has a one-night stand..'
.. with a random stranger"
EHM NO, a young girl gets drugged and raped by a stranger
Thank you! That bothered me too. There was nothing ambiguous about the rape scene, and yet none of the reviews and critiques mention rape. Neither does the marketing of the movie. All I read is that she "hooks up with a stranger" (movie critique) or "has a one-night stand" (official movie poster). Can you say rape culture?
What disturbs me even more are some of the reviews here on imdb. Here is one that was obviously written by a young male person: "...should be shown to all sexually active teenagers or in sex education class. What I got from watching this movie is you need to be careful and PREVENTION goes along way. Many times we let our guard down because of alcohol ... it will leave you squirming and wanting to cover your pecker."
This is wrong and disturbing on every conceivable level, and it horrifies me that there are people who watch this movie and don't realize that they've just witnessed a woman being roofied and raped. A lesbian woman who would never have had consensual sex with a man, and in fact begs him to stop when she wakes up in the middle of the sexual assault. (The movie should come with a trigger warning imho). How can anyone watch this scene, think of it as a perfectly normal pickup routine, and conclude that she is somehow at fault for... what? Going to a party? Having a few drinks? Not asking her rapist to wear protection before he roofied her? I'm at a loss for words here.
"...should be shown to all sexually active teenagers or in sex education class. What I got from watching this movie is you need to be careful and PREVENTION goes along way. Many times we let our guard down because of alcohol ... it will leave you squirming and wanting to cover your pecker."
I also think people should be taught precautions against rape. Its a sad fact that when at parties drinking alot of these young people have no idea what to look out for
"I also think people should be taught precautions against rape. Its a sad fact that when at parties drinking alot of these young people have no idea what to look out for"
Well, I think we should teach people to not rape instead
I HATE THIS ATTITUDE.
Obviously rape is bad and people shouldnt do it but just as obvious is that there are people who dont care and are going to do it anyway.
You are basically saying let send our daughter into a minefield without a map because the mines should be there in the first place. BOOOM! now your child is injuyed for life. Is it your "fault"? No. Could you have prevented it? YES.
Teach your children how to avoid predators. Even if that means pointing out a rape victim as a bad example.
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Well, I think we should teach people to not rape instead
Just like we should teach people not to rob and kill each other either right?
Oh yea I think we tried that.
People don't feel safe walking alone in the dark at night. They should probably not feel safe either when alcohol is involved and they should like wise keep an eye out for the few aggressive males out that will push to for. Just because some one suggests you put a lock on your door that doesn't mean they condone robberies. share
Well, I think we should teach people to not rape instead
Just like we should teach people not to rob and kill each other either right?
Oh yea I think we tried that.
People don't feel safe walking alone in the dark at night. They should probably not feel safe either when alcohol is involved and they should like wise keep an eye out for the few aggressive males out that will push to for. Just because some one suggests you put a lock on your door that doesn't mean they condone robberies. share
Thank you! That bothered me too. There was nothing ambiguous about the rape scene, and yet none of the reviews and critiques mention rape. Neither does the marketing of the movie. All I read is that she "hooks up with a stranger" (movie critique) or "has a one-night stand" (official movie poster). Can you say rape culture?
What disturbs me even more are some of the reviews here on imdb. Here is one that was obviously written by a young male person: "...should be shown to all sexually active teenagers or in sex education class. What I got from watching this movie is you need to be careful and PREVENTION goes along way. Many times we let our guard down because of alcohol ... it will leave you squirming and wanting to cover your pecker."
This is wrong and disturbing on every conceivable level, and it horrifies me that there are people who watch this movie and don't realize that they've just witnessed a woman being roofied and raped. A lesbian woman who would never have had consensual sex with a man, and in fact begs him to stop when she wakes up in the middle of the sexual assault. (The movie should come with a trigger warning imho). How can anyone watch this scene, think of it as a perfectly normal pickup routine, and conclude that she is somehow at fault for... what? Going to a party? Having a few drinks? Not asking her rapist to wear protection before he roofied her? I'm at a loss for words here.
hate to burst your long bubble, BUT! correct me if I'm wrong. In the trailer during the scene she's in the car with dude! she clearly says, "stop...no...I don't want to do this anymore...please stop"
sources on imdb indicate that he slipped her a mickey (even though she liked the outcome somewhat) that's defined as rape. if a woman says "no" during intercourse. share
TY! /\ I never saw the movie (I'll watch tonight), but I read all the comments and saw the trailer. Posters comments reflect she did not get raped and druged.
The trailer - Clearly has her awaking during the middle of "rape" and she even says, "no ...stop...please no" She's obviously been drugged and raped which adds to the overal impact of her decint into death (and possibly spoiler) being re-annimated and brought back to life "zombie" like feature.
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Large parts of society condone prison rape. Just read the comments under any news article about some horrible crime, there's always a bunch of people expressing their hope that the alleged perpetrator is going to get raped in jail. Others argue that marital rape is not really rape at all, which is a frighteningly widespread opinion in religious circles.
Nearly all conservatives approve of raping pregnant women with an ultrasound wand before they can legally exercise their right to an abortion. Many people condone or excuse rape if the victim was drunk at the time, wore relatively little clothing, was known for being promiscuous, invited the rapist to her home or agreed to follow him to his place, was in a relationship with the rapist, initially agreed on having sex but then changed her mind, was a sex worker, and so on.
Most news outlets downplay rape, or even make fun of rape, if the victim is male. When an adult man is raped by a woman, the crime is treated like a salacious joke. When a male student is held down by his peers and raped with an object, news authors speak of a "hazing ritual" and parents excuse this behavior with something in the lines of "boys will be boys". And when an adult woman seduces a male child, there'll be plenty of comments like "you go, kiddo" or "I wish I had been that lucky back in the day".
These are but a few examples. I didn't even mention victim blaming yet, which is probably the most widespread form of rape condonation. Bottom line: Rape culture is not only very real, it hurts men and women alike. Male victims might actually be taken less seriously and find less support than female victims. I hope for your sake that you'll never have to experience this yourself.
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Nearly all conservatives approve of raping pregnant women with an ultrasound wand before they can legally exercise their right to an abortion. Many people condone or excuse rape if the victim was drunk at the time, wore relatively little clothing, was known for being promiscuous, invited the rapist to her home or agreed to follow him to his place, was in a relationship with the rapist, initially agreed on having sex but then changed her mind, was a sex worker, and so on.
And it starts first its "nearly all conservatives" condone rape, Then it turns into conservatives rapeing women with ultra sound. Next it'll be all men rape women 100s of times in their life times. I think this trend of calling anyone that disagree with you(on abortion in this case) a rapist is the real RAPE Culture.
If your against rape then leave it at that. Your not winning any arguments by throwing religious and conservative political groups under the bus. share
... his trend of calling anyone that disagree with you(on abortion in this case) a rapist ...
I never did that. I'm calling the act of forcing an object into a woman's vagina under duress an act of rape. And it clearly is under duress if women are forbidden to exercise their legal rights unless they endure this act of penetration. I'm further calling anyone who would approve of such a law a pro-rape advocate. You can easily avoid this stigma by not advocating or excusing rape in any form. share
I never did that. I'm calling the act of forcing an object into a woman's vagina under duress an act of rape. And it clearly is under duress if women are forbidden to exercise their legal rights unless they endure this act of penetration. I'm further calling anyone who would approve of such a law a pro-rape advocate. You can easily avoid this stigma by not advocating or excusing rape in any form.
I've had ultra sounds before but non that involved cavity entry so I'm just know learning of transvaginal ultra sounds.
I don't advocate rape in anyform so I can assume your not directing that comment to me.
I don't advocate ultrasounds for women that are considering abortions but are you also against the collection of evidence via a rape kit (Which involves vaginal entry of instraments). I'm ok with a women refusing the kit but I hope she understands that eliminates a lot of hard evidence and only her word may be available at that point as evidence.
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That's a very far-fetched comparison. Rape victims have already been violated without consent. Far too few of them are in any condition to jump through the hoops of the legal system, put up with disbelief and victim blame, and relive their ordeal by answering very personal questions in an often futile attempt to bring their rapist to justice. The few that are willing to go through this have a vested interest in helping to gather evidence against their rapist.
In short, this is a necessary step and in the best interest of the victim. A compulsory vaginal ultrasound is neither of those things. It's simply not a part of the abortion process.
That's a very far-fetched comparison. Rape victims have already been violated without consent. Far too few of them are in any condition to jump through the hoops of the legal system, put up with disbelief and victim blame, and relive their ordeal by answering very personal questions in an often futile attempt to bring their rapist to justice.
I'm confused then what was the point of an ultrasound. The only ultra sound law I'm aware of is for women contemplating abortions and was never intended to be directed at rape victims.
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Conservatives who proposed this additional legal hurdle wanted all abortion candidates to see an ultrasound image of their ZEF prior to the abortion procedure, probably in the hopes they'd change their mind. The rape I was talking about is the unconsensual penetration with an ultrasound wand. Penetration with an object is considered rape in almost all parts of the developed world, and it is an unconsensual act in this case because it would have happened under duress (no ultrasound, no abortion).
shareNo. Rape culture is not real. Just as murder culture or theft culture is not real.
I don't know what society you live in, but rape is not seen as "ok" by any sane person.
People often proclaim that rape is not ok, and then follow it up with something like "...but it's kind of your own fault if you had a beer with yoiur friends" or "but what about the poor accused men, lots of women and children lie about this kind of thing". And then they praise the latest Woody Allen movie or opine that Bill Cosby might be innocent after all, 40 accusations be damned.
Nobody ever goes to a murder victim's funeral and lectures the bereft family on how the deceased could have easily avoided being murdered, and that it's not even certain if he was murdered at all, maybe he just killed himself and blamed it on someone else because he's such an attention whore. But lots of people, especially conservatives, do exactly that when it comes to rape. That is rape culture.
Neither does the marketing of the movie. All I read is that she "hooks up with a stranger" (movie critique) or "has a one-night stand" (official movie poster). Can you say rape culture?
probably because we don't learn about the roofies later on. The scene cuts from her at the prty to her panting in the car. We don't have any clue she just woke up in the middle of it. We all knew it was an STD so we figured she wasn't using a condom so she's asking him not to cum inside her. It didnt help that she was approaching climax too during the scene. So if people missed the roofies comment by the dealer they wouldent have known a rape took place. share
I don't remember exactly how they cut the scene, if there was a fade-out of some sorts, but I remember that I immediately assumed she had passed out from something that was in her drink. I also immediately knew that she had just regained consciousness when they cut to the rape scene. She seemed disoriented to me, as if she had only just realized what was being done to her.
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I don't remember exactly how they cut the scene, if there was a fade-out of some sorts, but I remember that I immediately assumed she had passed out from something that was in her drink. I also immediately knew that she had just regained consciousness when they cut to the rape scene. She seemed disoriented to me, as if she had only just realized what was being done to her.
I had just been watching it on netflix. The trailer actually cut out her pants and had her words close together implying rape but in the film all it starts with her making small talk with B.J. She tells him she's a lesbian to which he responds why isn't she here with you today. She looks down at this point of the film we already know she's in a rough spot with her girlfriernd nikki. She looks down in at her drink, She'disapointment for a brief pause(As the audience were remembering that nikki stood her up. Then cut to her panting with the airfreshner of a car rocking as she's apparently consious and having sex in the back seat. The film doesn't even show the back seat all we see are occasiona 1 fram pictures of them intertwined and hear her pants.
Netflix has a counter that counts down to the end of the film along with her dialog.
1h:12m:16s Panting 4 seconds
1h:12m:12s [ We should stop ]
9 seconds of panting
1h:12m:3s [ I'm serious ]
5 more seconds of pants with some "UM"s in there
1h:11m:58s [ Please ]
7 seconds of loud pants and you hear a few Aw Aw sounds as she's approaching climax
1h:11m:51s [ Please!]
7 seconds of grunts pants
then a hand shows up on the window like in titanic
The title Contracted appears on the screen.
1h:11m:44s We see her hand hit the steaming with of the car like in titanic
Then the title of the movie "Contracted" appears.
Again all we hear is hear panting we see nothing
For many in the audience these are the sounds of a woman trying to fight her own orgasm hoping that the guy doesn't cum. Those of us who have gotten lost in the moment with out a condom knows what this feels like.
Later on of course we learn this is a rape when the drug dealer says "before you say aything... I may have sold B.J. some roofies". This is never mentioned again so those in the audience that missed this will never hear this indication again. I agree that this wasn't a one night stand and that netflix is off in its summery but I bet anything the its due to the person sumerising the movie not being attentive not rape culture.
When I watched the trailer you hear the pants cut out and the words "We should stop. Please!] are run together as if they are a complete sentance. The please is the more assertive please from the caption I described above but in the movie it sounds like its aggressive cause she's approaching climax. Watch it on netflix in isolation and you'll see what I mean.
Through out the entire film She acts like it wasn't rape and when the police are looking for B.J. (Cause they know he's got a virus) She keeps quit not because she's ashamed of rape(She gives the impression it was consensual the whole time) but because she doesn't want nikki to find out.
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For many in the audience these are the sounds of a woman trying to fight her own orgasm hoping that the guy doesn't cum.
It would be very disconcerting if that were the case, because "we should stop" means just that during a sexual encounter. Always, without exception. Especially when it's followed up with "I'm serious" and desperate pleading. share
It would be very disconcerting if that were the case, because "we should stop" means just that during a sexual encounter. Always, without exception. Especially when it's followed up with "I'm serious" and desperate pleading.
The audio sounded more like she was trying to convince her self more then anything. Outside of the roofies and alcohal you really have to stretch to interpret it as rape. share
No means no and stop means stop. Always. Even if it started out as a consensual encounter, when you're told to stop, you stop. Immediately. Continued intercourse after a withdrawal of consent is rape. There is no arguing that.
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No means no and stop means stop. Always. Even if it started out as a consensual encounter, when you're told to stop, you stop. Immediately. Continued intercourse after a withdrawal of consent is rape. There is no arguing that.
The pronoun "you" was never used. I'm well aware of withdrawal of consent after initial penetration but It honestly didn't sound like that's what she was doing. There is ambiguity in the imperative "we should" vs "you must". But my man point is you don't even know it was rape until way later in the movie. If you concluded it was rape right at that scene you must have had some knowledge that roofies were used. I on the other hand saw a girl depressed about her current relationship who must have been in bad shape to be deduced by a guy that did seem creepy to
When I saw the scene I took it as a guy that took the opportunity of putting the moves on a girl that was having relationship issues. I was rooting for her to be stronger but she seemed really down, to fall intimately so quickly to someone she just met.
Had there been no roofies involved this would have been a completly different movie. Yes the guy was a creep and yes we were all rooting for the girl to be stronger and flat out say no, but she didn't, but outside of the roofies I can't imagine how he could be convicted in an actual court of law.
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Once again, this is not up for debate. Stop means stop. We should stop means we should stop. Immediately, without discussion. Withdrawal of consent = immediate cessation of sexual activities. Anything else might land you in prison.
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Once again, this is not up for debate. Stop means stop. We should stop means we should stop. Immediately, without discussion. Withdrawal of consent = immediate cessation of sexual activities. Anything else might land you in prison.
I won't debate this any further. We interpreted the imperative differnlt. share