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Could a man have written the book without being considered a misogynist?


It's a brilliant book and adaptation, but I wonder how much outcry there would have been from feminist groups if a man had written the original novel.

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Obviously my thread is predicated on whether people know the book/film's twist?


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It's been my experience that a man can't BREATH without being called a misogynist. But back to your question....I thought the story was pretty even handed. Yes she faked own murder but she also brought to light many legitimate issues of domestic violence. So a man writing it wouldn't have brought much of an outcry. Also I like your 'in memoriam' sign off.

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Considering that a woman wrote it, and she was called a misogynist for it, and even contemplated that she "killed feminism," the answer is NO. Feminist groups were already outcrying about the book, and then the movie and it was written by a woman. Some people even said it was both misogynist and misandrist simultaneously.

Seems like peoples' greatest issue with it is that it proves the "woman are wonderful" effect, which is an automatic assumption that men are evil and violent and horrible and commit awful atrocities, while women being so much as accused of anything is automatically scrutinized with a fine-toothed comb to prove it wrong automatically even when an investigation is underway to get evidence to prove it, such as how by using the statement that "because she was raped, if she hadn't acted, she may have also been murdered" automatically causes men with chivalrous attitudes to tell the investigator "hey, no, you need to stop now, this woman is a victim, how dare you look for evidence that they might not be!"

Unfortunately ridiculous attitudes like this still exist in the REAL world, where people just automatically assume that men are the root of all evil, women are all lawful good characters, and the insinuation of anything less must already have a 50+-page book full of evidence to prove the accusation while there doesn't have to be any evidence whatsoever if a woman accuses a man of a crime, because for some reason women are all strong and capable until they MIGHT be the victim of a crime, then society has to treat them like babies being protected from predatory animals.

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I definitely took a sigh of relief after the movie was over when I saw a woman wrote the book and film. Amy paints a pretty ugly picture of women (and not of the "horrible person who just happens to be a woman" variety, since so much of her character is about her being a woman), but The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo did the same thing with men, so egalitarianism. I'm just happy I didn't love something an MRA wrote.

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I'm still watching the film, so clearly do not have an answer to your question, but I mentally juggle situations to which you allude. I reverse roles to see if sexism/racism/agism etc exists.

For example, would it be ok for x to happen of the roles were reversed. I find it the safest way to determine if I'm over-reacting or accurate in an assessment.

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Yes. There are plenty of good women in the book. The only total cliché is Andie Hardy, particularly when she starts to go almost Fatal Attraction on Nick. That was cheap. Amy herself is not a misogynist character. Her characterization doesn't depend on her being female. She's not bent out of shape over being "scorned", she is a megalomaniac who needs to win ALWAYS, small and big. That is a characterization often portrayed in men, but not women. But I think both types of psychopaths have it. So for a guy to portray a female psychopath without using her beauty and sexuality gratuitously, who wrote the hilarious sex scene with Desi (that was pretty funny), I don't think he'd be accused of being misogynist. There are too many original details, such as Amy not caring when she gained weight, fried her skin in the sun, such as her need to get back at both men AND women if they "won" over her. Amy's power is not a sexual power or power of beauty, although those are useful to her. It's her mind.

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Either way, the book was terrible.

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True dat, and I think a male author would have been slammed as a misogynist.

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