I'm confused about something
Was Amy actually awful to Nick before he started cheating? The movie never shows exactly what she did that was so awful to him during the marriage.
shareWas Amy actually awful to Nick before he started cheating? The movie never shows exactly what she did that was so awful to him during the marriage.
shareWell, it's more complicated than that. The thing is: Nick and Amy both pretended to be different people so one would be attracted to another. Nick is a relaxed, egotistical, laid back guy, however, he pretends to be romantic, witty, sharp and game. Amy is controlling, methodical, insecure and paranoid, however, she pretends to be as easy-going and relaxed as Nick. They both have sociopathic and narcissistic tendencies, so playing a character isn't very hard for them when they are living a fairly wealthy life in NY. But when they lose their jobs, become poor and move to a place they consider below their standards, they begin to face real marriage problems. And, suddenly, playing someone they are not doesn't seem really worth doing anymore. The thing is: is not Amy who's awful to Nick, it just happens that they both take off their masks and they find out they hate eachother. They are both equally toxic presences to one another. Their marrige becomes a mere convenience: Amy's with Nick because she's too much of a narcissist to come back to New York divorced and poor, and Nick's with Amy because he depends financially of her.
shareThis is the main blunder:
If the cops knew about Desi, why didn't they contact him?
After all, Amy had a restraining order placed on him.
Didn't the cop say something about that? How they'd interviewed him but he wasn't a suspect?
I mean, I agree that it is a hole in the story. Nick had all of the letters from Desi Amy had kept and the cops THOROUGHLY searched the entire house. Either they missed a box sitting in the close, or they didn't think Desi was a nutcase.
He would have had to have a fairly decent alibi to not be a suspect, which means he would not have been able to abduct her. The investigator would have known this. This is a weak part of the story.
shareThe letters still would have made him a person of interest, seeing as he could have easily hired someone to do the kidnapping.
shareWhatever. 😛
shareDesi was so far back in her past the police didn't think him a current issue in her life. My thought on him is how no one bothers to explain how a man from NY (they went to HS together) moved to the Midwest to conduct his multi million dollar enterprise. Not like Missouri is a financial hub or anything.
shareDesi was so far back in her past the police didn't think him a current issue in her life. My thought on him is how no one bothers to explain how a man from NY (they went to HS together) moved to the Midwest to conduct his multi million dollar enterprise. Not like Missouri is a financial hub or anything.
Due to the sociopathic behavior she had displayed with the other men that we know of in her life we can safely assume that Nick's life with her had been just as he had described to his sister.
shareBut, as is almost always the case, neither side is innocent. Did she start showing her psycho side before or after he started getting lazy? Did he start getting lazy before or after she started showing her psycho side?
I'm willing to bet it was pretty equal. Not that he deserved her being psycho. I'm just saying that had he not stopped being the man she fell in love with, she wouldn't have gone psycho.
I repeat myself when I remind you that she showed psycho behavior with at least two other guys before she met Nick.
shareI repeat myself when I remind you that she showed psycho behavior with at least two other guys before she met Nick.I saw your first reply to nicknamed last night and was about to reply when something came between. I think you're absolutely right, sooner or later Amy would've shown her psycho behavior, the way she had done with Desi and the guy whose name I can't recall right now. She more or less destroyed the guy's life.
Half of marriages fail without either partner being an actual sociopath like Amy is. All any of us can do is pray we don't end up with a psycho. That's Nick's problem at the end of the movie as he realizes he's stuck with someone like her.
shareYes, that's pretty much what I'm saying. But it does feel quite frustrating with the movie ending the way it did. But sure, it's Nick's problem, but I can't help but feel sorry for him.
shareI should read the book. Sometimes that helps me understand where a movie is coming from.
shareYes, and so will I. Most people say the same thing about the book as norway-jm said, thanks! The situation in Gone Girl is in fact, which most books are, more compelling. And in this particular case, definitely more twisted than the movie makes it appear.
shareIn the book, once we find out about Amy's past, we're left to believe that Amy was probably even worse than Nick lets on until then. Until then she just seems as if she's emotionally withholding, but otherwise ok (she DID give him the last of her trust fund). But the other two people from her past describe a very unpleasant person once you get to know her, and Amy (the real Amy) describes how Nick couldn't handle the "real her" once she showed it to him.
I'd like to know if in the movie Nick's stupidity is as entertaining as it is in the book. His first meeting with Tanner Bolt is hilarious. His lawyer: "Nick. You cannot date around while your pregnant wife is missing. You will go to *beep* prison."
I think it's pretty clear, even in the movie that Amy was most likely worse than what Nick told the police. But I have to ask you, haven't you seen the film? You should, if not for anything else than as a great comparison. And if you'll be disappointed, you still got the book.
I don't think that Nick is suppose to be portrayed as stupid. Rather naive, clueless and somewhat superficial, the little we actually see of his actions in the flashbacks, mostly from Amy. Which obviously are biased, since we don't really know what is true or not, but only Amy's supposed skewed interpretations. That he after a while into their marriage, becomes lazy is quite certain, Nick talks about it himself, both to the police and to Margo.
So there's no real answer to your question, because there's really no allusion that Nick would be especially stupid. Besides that Tanner Bolt is a funny and driven character, played with excellency by Tyler Perry.
And those on this board who said that Carrie Coon wasn't good in the movie, I think they are dead wrong. She's one of my favorites in Gone Girl.
My problem is I read "Girl on the Train" and liked it so much I read "Gone Girl" - just this past month. Now the movie is gone from theatres. I'll wait for it to show up on Netflix and if it doesn't I'll buy it.
shareThat makes of course sense. I do think you should see it. Not so sure about Paula Hawkins' novel though. While Gone Girl got great reviews, The Girl on the Train has not got the best of reviews. So maybe you should wait for it to show up on Netflix too. :)
shareRepeat yourself a million times if you wish. It doesn't change what I said.
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