Its a good film, not satisfied with the ending but overall is pro-feminist
Now, whenever a woman tells a story about how bad she was being treated from her boyfriend/husband you'll have a bunch of blind miserable loud mouth on this woman side not even knowing the man's side of the story.
It's neither pro nor anti-feminist. You could make equally plausible cases for either, which means they cancel each other out.
shareIt's actually the complete opposite. We see how Amy almost destroyed one man's life by falsely accusing him of rape (something that sadly happens in the real world), and then we see her almost destroy another man's life by falsely accusing him of a myriad of terrible things he didn't do (like hitting her, using her for sex, threatening to kill her, etc.) and everyone feels sympathy for her because she plays the victim so well and people naturally believe a 'victimized" woman over a man any day, and then she straight up murders a man and convinces everyone it was justified because he was raping her, when he wasn't.
Her entire character is a burning indictment of what feminism has become; anger and lies towards the opposite sex, as well as utter contempt for other women that don't share their same view point of the world. It's all the more impactful because it was written by a woman.
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Her entire character is a burning indictment of what feminism has become. . .
Her entire character is a burning indictment of what feminism has become; anger and lies towards the opposite sex, as well as utter contempt for other women that don't share their same view point of the world.
Feminists are overgrown children whining about something they didn't get in life.
Get off your soapbox while I play you a tune on the tiniest violin.
Feminists are overgrown children whining about something they didn't get in life.And that is your argument against feminism? Well, it sucks. Try again. share
You don't need much of a strong argument against Feminism. It kind of vanquishes itself on its own with pure stupidity and nonsense these days.
shareThe movie isn't not feminist in any way. If anything, it makes them look bad. The only thing feminist about it is in the real world, feminists find Amy to be a hero. There's a thread further down here where many express admiration for Amy. I think many women would love to do this to their cheating man. But of course that is just fantasy, and they would never actually do it.
shareYeah. This movie exposes their psychotic cult for what it is.
Get off your soapbox while I play you a tune on the tiniest violin.
The book was written by a woman. And she said, I destroyed feminism with this.
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Right. But in majority of horror movies where the killer isn't suspected to be a woman, such as Scream when they theorize who the killer is at the beginning of the movie, the main characters suggest it's a woman and the two eventual killers say no way it could be a woman, you need it to be a man. Still, in a way i see that as sending a Feminist message that "women can be killers too" because the girl character replies to the original dismissed claim that women can't be serial killers, because sexism. Then when the killer is a woman, you go "oh wow, it's a woman?"...even if it's a negative thing such as murder, it's not "right" for it to be sexist, because "women are very capable blah blah blah"
I also think because of modern day Feminism, is why the movie ends the way it ends with Amy getting away with everything and pinning everything on Neil Patrick Harris. Nick was in no mans land the whole time, the media portrayed him already as an *beep* from the beginning. When he questions how Amy was able to slice NPH's throat, he was quickly shot down but the cop. The Female cop saw flaws in her story too but she was quickly shot down. All the others saw was "poor Amy" drenched in blood sitting in the wheelchair but they could NEVER imagine something like that but because she was a rape victim to everyone and even was a SURVIVOR to everyone. That's that whole anti-rape culture thing, don't question anything about the victim. Forget justice, facts and logic. These guys should all be in jail. Just look at the mess that was the Duke Lacrosse case. That's why I had a hate/love thing with the ending.
Amy knew exactly what she was doing the whole time, and she knew she could play off of the victimhood. You have to thing Feminism in this movie definitely, but I'd say it mocked it. She was a hero to everyone, but she was a "piece of shi*" murder...
Why does this have to be about feminism?!? Why can't you just have a cool movie about an evil mastermind who screws over her husband because she happens to be a woman married to a man?
Did people read some larger gender narrative into the ending of The Usual Suspects, when Keyser Soze's real identity is revealed and he escapes, scot free? What about Silence of the Lambs, when the genuinely evil Hannibal Lecter is shown not only out in the world and free, but literally about to murder and then devour somebody? There are movies all the time that show male characters doing awful things and then not being suitably punished for it. So this one features a woman. So what?
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Thank you. The voice of reason. I'm so sick of idiots making every movie on IMDB politicsl because they are so full of hate and fear.
I simply am not there...
Will they ever make a major motion picture illustrating what it's like to be an abused husband and all of the hardships that go with it?
I want to see a movie that exposes the fact that there are no shelters for abused men. Hell, men can't even take their children away from abusive mothers without risking a charge of kidnapping.
I want to see that movie.
I'm sure the feminist community won't allow it.
I'm sure the feminist community won't allow it.
The book war written by a woman. And she said "I have destroyed feminism with this"
shareBut then I hardly think that it worked, because no self-respecting woman who calls herself a feminist would identify herself with Amy. Amy was a psychopath and if you want to be kind, a sociopath.
shareMaybe he's not talking about feminism in Amy, but in all the women who blindly believes her, like the host, Ellen Abbott who blindly believes Amy and accuses Nick of almost everything possible.
And maybe Flynn isn't referring to feminism in its original term, but the more let's call it "modern" take of feminism which, whether you wanna believe it or not, does revolve around women's despite towards men and certain other women, just as Amy is seen despise almost everyone she encounters in the movie. Flynn might have been exaggerating when she said she destroyed feminism, but she might also have meant the "modern" kind of feminism and we can all hope that she in fact does destroy that.
Caesar. Is. Home.
By he, I assume you mean Fincher. Yes, the movie paints a lot of its female characters in a very unflattering light, but I don't think that he's pushing a feminist agenda.
The book might be perceived as "a feminist's dream", because most of the central characters are written as full and complex without regard to gender. They may stereotype themselves and each other according to gender roles, but Flynn, the author does not. She has said men are allowed - as fictitious characters - to be bad in a way women are not. And I truly don't believe that any feminist has ever worried about feminism being destroyed with GG, more to expose that certain patterns are acceptable when it comes to men, but not women.
... but in all the women who blindly believes her, like the host, Ellen Abbott who blindly believes Amy and accuses Nick of almost everything possible.I think one of the the main intentions Fincher has had, is that highlight how the media works, today worse than ever, but not because they are women. Now most of the reporters who handles such cases are women, which also shows a distortion that is not okay. Where are the men?
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