I really enjoyed this film, so much so that I would say it is one of the best I have seen in 2013. Something about it just seemed so real to me, in particular the chemistry between Bell and the lead male, the relationship was so sad and yet so beautiful. I have read many complaints on here that the film is boring but I just don't see it, I guess this sort of movie isn't for everyone but I absolutely loved it.
shareMost people are too stupid and shallow to understand this movie. It's that simple. This movie is rated 5.7 and "White house down" is rated 6.4... FFS!!!
shareWhite House Down was a better movie because :-
1. It wasn't written by some woman with a huge chip on her shoulder trying to push an agenda.
2. It actually had characters you understood and had direction
3. The film wasn't designed for retards that try and justify everything with the "but they were in love" argument.
4. The film didn't have Middle Aged women having sex with schoolboys. Sorry having sex with children is just plain wrong at least it is where I live.
5. The film had a decent conclusion not some dribble with the subtext of "oh well never mind" like the lifeguard has.
6. The film actually made sense.
While I agree that this movie sucked ass, what does the director being a woman have to do with anything? You sound sexist whenever you bring up the gender. It's just a director trying to push an agenda, that's it. Also, your use of the word "retards" is problematic to say the least.
shareI don't think its sexist to highlight that the director was a woman, who seemed quite bitter in her videos about how women are viewed in general (almost to feminist levels). She explains that because she didn't like the way that women are expected to do certain things like settle down and have kids, she made the film the way it was to try and show what it was like if women didn't. The directors views was pretty much in line with the typical woman water cooler chat about "how wrong the world is and how women suffer such great mis-justice and if women were able to do what they wanted the world would be a better place etc, etc) the conversation is normally held in jest and everyone walks away having a laugh.
However when you watch her documentary videos on the film she strikes you as someone that walked out of one of those conversations and took the whole concept a little too seriously and a little too far.
Sorry if you are offended by the fact that it is usually women that get these chips on their shoulder about something or have these agendas and then try and change the world because of it but recently it seems to have been mainly women.
To give you another example that happened recently in the UK, one of the women MPs (who recently got divorced and as a result of obviously quite bitter about it) decided to push the no pornography bill through to try and stop the whole of the UK by default from viewing pornography. Again the reasons for this (I don't think its a big jump to see that this would mainly affect males) and the arguments put forward to support the move were quite absurd but this was another example of a bitter women trying to change the world just because her view of it had been corrupted through a recent life event.
If you find the word retard problematic I strongly suggest you don't use the internet any more as you will find much stronger language than that that on here and even on this board.
"Sorry if you are offended by the fact that it is usually women that get these chips on their shoulder about something or have these agendas and then try and change the world because of it but recently it seems to have been mainly women."
Something I recently noticed on IMDB message boards--just before the movie Magic Mike came out (the Channing Tatum flick about male strippers), the message board was flooded by angry males, saying that the movie exploited men, that no decent women would see such a movie, that all women who go to see male strippers were sick and perverted, etc. And on the board for A Night in Heaven, in which a married woman has an affair with a male stripper, I saw 2-3 posts from furious men, one saying the female character and her lover deserved to die.
Just to compare, I then visited the boards for Showgirls (which concerned female strippers) and The Sessions (about a female sex surrogate serving a male) and did not see one post from an angry female.
Feminism is the "radical belief" that women are people, and should be paid and treated equally.
So your supporting evidence that men also exhibit this type of behaviour is based on this website and the couple of boards you visited (which may have only had a small number / unbalanced number of either sex visit it ?
Sadly that is minuscule in comparison to the experience I have from a life time of real world experience in the real world.
Unfortunately your definition of feminism is slightly off it should read :-
"Feminism is the belief that women are not only people, but they are better than men who are all pigs. Women should be paid more and treated better than men"
All anti-feminists are frustrated homosexuals (and Republicans, which is the same thing).
share"Sorry if you are offended by the fact that it is usually women that get these chips on their shoulder about something or have these agendas and then try and change the world because of it but recently it seems to have been mainly women."
It's odd that you try to defend yourself against sexist accusations by making a very sexist statement.
Men have agendas too, that they push all the time, in all forms of media. It's just that it's more common, more ingrained into our culture, and therefore less obvious when it happens.
There are some people, and you seem to be one of them, who become uncomfortable with a woman doing things that men have been doing for years. These are the same people who find a domineering male boss to be a good, strong leader, while finding a woman boss who behaves in the same manner to be a bitch. And the same people who, like you, find a woman pushing an anti-pornography bill to be bitter, emotional, and uppity, even though male politicians do things like that all the time.
I think you need to step out of your bubble and see if you can open your mind and change your perceptions a little. It seems like your opinion is quite narrow and only informed by very mainstream and unquestioned beliefs and ideals.
You know it's very interesting, you mentioned the anti-porn measure in Great Britain. At the Cambridge University debate on this issue, it was a female and staunchly feminist porn director, Anna Span, who is leading the charge to keep porn legal in that country. Here in the states a number of female porn directors are avowedly feminist, including Candida Royalle, Nina Hartley and Toni English/Kelly Holland--who I personally have worked for at her company Chick Media. I've also had the pleasure of interviewing Petra Joy, a German porn director who is also feminist. I myself have 30 erotic novellas in print and have worked for about 10 adult companies. If you think that we're all a bunch of manhating sticks in the mud, think again.
Feminism is the "radical belief" that women are people, and should be paid and treated equally.
I really don't care what the feminist hordes are up to.If they are involved with porn they are probably into that weird female domination crap and can quite frankly do one,
"If feminism was a recipe, hypocrisy would be the base ingredient, followed by arrogance, hate and hostility, and trace amounts of other undesirable characteristics - hold the empathy."
i LOVED it too. the chemistry between kristen bell and david lambert were off the charts! plus i can relate to her character so much.. def not a movie for everyone, but still good.
shareSo I'm guessing your ex got the house AND the car?
share"Most people are too stupid to understand the movie. It's that simple."
hahhahahahhhha this movie has been panned by every critic out there ... but no the movie can't be bad, everyone else is just too stupid, yeah that's it ... hahahha
Agree with you 100 %. Feel that most of the people on here saw a different film to me! Thought it was brilliant
shareI really liked this movie too. I was very surprised to see all the negative comments on the board and the fact that so many people only talk about the age difference between Leigh and Jason and how inappropriate it's supposed to be...
I think their affair was beautifully filmed, the chemistry was amazing and the love scenes were hot and tasteful at the same time, and with a great choice of music. It's abvious that a 16 year old boy and a 29 year old woman couldn't have a real long term relationship - they were at completely different stages at their lives.. But in the story told, the connection between Leigh and Jason is something else: they were both lost, troubled and trying to figure out what to do with their lives next. They clearly brought comfort to one another and found some relief from the pressure of the rest of the world in each others' arms. Of course there was the physical attraction too, which was so realistically portrayed.. The scene in the car in the rain, where nothing happens but the sexual tension is very real - was one of my favourite.
I really don't find anything disturbing about the two of them having sex. I don't see Jason as a child - he's a young adult, certainly aware of what he's doing and clearly enjoying it. Where I come from, you can get married at 16(with your parents consent). Also, they both know it's temporary - there are no words of commitment, no declarations of love or future together... The only verbal indication that they have gotten attached emotionally is how reluctant Jason is to leave for Vermont with Matt and when Leigh suggests that he stays a little longer. I think it's the inevitability of their parting ways soon that puts the sadness you mention into their realtionship, along with the touching music and the filming style - pale colours etc.
Like you said - not a movie for everyone, but I'm glad to know that there are more people who appreciated it's beauty! Oh, and David Lambert looks so hot in it...
I think you need to relate to the characters problems to appreciate the movie. Unlike white house down where the plot is "big". This movie is about small problems real people experience, mid life crisis, deciding your future, 30 years old and you are still living with parents (ok, 29). may-december love affair.
shareI loved this little film! Kristen Bell is a real gem and is fantastic in everything she does. In general I don't agree with a relationship of this sort, but it was presented beautifully. The complexity was there without being discussed. I was 100% invested in all of these characters.
As far as the double standard goes for the reverse of this type of relationship... I have to say I think there is a double standard but if it were presented like this I don't think women would be up in arms like some of he guys here are accusing us of. On the show Pretty Little Liars, one of the teenaged female characters has been dating her English teacher since the first season of the show. They met the summer between 10th and 11th grade. So, yeah sometimes Inhave to step back and say to myself " this is so wrong!" I watch it with my teenaged daughter. But mostly I am rooting for this couple who seem to genuinely love each other.
@zackredding- you seem angrier than most of the feminists I know. You should probably look into that .
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I loved it too.
Robin Hood Country....
I loved this movie too and am disheartened by the negative and senseless comments here. Oh, by the way, you are going to earn yourselves Donald Trump. These two facts are connected.
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