You seem to have a lot of time on your hands...
...but this just this once I decided to read your diatribe and give not my opinions and a little facts.
But know this, like I said to the guy I call "Bane" on this thread, my patience is wearing thin. Not because the subjects are unimportant, but because WE BOTH KNOW our opinions will not change on this subject and it is a waste of my time to devote effort to it.
As a side note: Looking at your thought processes is interesting. I often wonder what the underlying motivations drive certain mentalities. With you...you are different from "Bane" but I am beginning to understand you...whether I like/agree you or not .
With a UN mandate and congressional support...How was the war illegal?
If I had my way much of our congress would be punished...including The Honorable Hillary Clinton. As far as the UN mandate:
On September 16, 2004 Secretary-General of the United Nations Kofi Annan, speaking on the invasion, said, "I have indicated it was not in conformity with the UN Charter. From our point of view, from the charter point of view, it was illegal."
What lies were told?
“Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction...There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us.” - Dick Cheney. Now...if you don't know how big the doubts were amongst EVERY possible person/group involved, that's a real shame by now...BUT ya know, really, we both know you don't care. Anyhow the list is long and well known by now...yadda, yadda. you don't care...blah blah.
that cemented the western allies as the undisputed masters of conventional warfare. Do you disagree?
Christ! What fantasy world do you live in? The US ran roughshod over a large but pathetic army which only a few years prior got humiliated effing with 2nd or 3rd rate Iran. Back when I was in the Army that was a joke. Question: "What is the Iraq army attack position" Answer: *put your hands over your head in emulation of surrender pose.*
Yeah. ****ed up people aren't they.
That's it? Nothing like? "Yeah, iroquoisjoe, I acknowledge that saying no one cared about the video was total horse crap." LEADERSHIP.
Email from Ben Rhodes, Deputy National Security Advisor (if Obama and Clinton didn't know what this guy was telling his people, then they are HORRIBLE leaders).
SERIOUSLY? SERIOUSLY? SERIOUSLY? Presdident Obama: "Hey Ben I just read your email to Rice...thanks for cc'ing me on this by the way, ya know I read every email from everybody in the State Dep, Def Department, Homeland SEc...heck I read them all. I mean I have nothing else better to do. Anyhow I personally want you to know I personally think that what you are suggesting is a lie...and I approve of it. Yessirree. It is clear that this is a lie. I mean I don't know how it's a lie, but ya know it must be a lie. The tea party says I am all about the lies. You work for me so it must be a lie right? Not a single possible fact here at all. Good lying here, dude. HIGH FIVE!" Ya know, I have no idea how you must feel about the entire Bush administration "not knowing" stuff... BUT ANYWAY let's cut to the chase
Stated goal of the upcoming talk show interviews with Ms. Rice (liar) was "To underscore that these protests are rooted in an Internet video, and not a broader failure of policy."
yeah...it was one of the goals. That's the guy's job. Political spin. Not intelligence. Ohhhhh...but whose job is intelligence? Hmmmm... CIA. Oh that's right? And...as it turns out what was did the CIA telling the whitehouse the state dep and the CONGRESS that same talkshow morning that the source of trouble was? Yep...you guessed it. Protests!
Sure as hell sounds like passing the buck to me. Doing anything possible to take advantage of this convenient internet video to avoid appearing as if Al Qaeda had struck a blow against America under Obama's watch (which they clearly did).He and Clinton should have IMMEDIATELY acknowledged this as a terrorist attack by islamic militants intent on attacking American interests abroad. Which is EXACTLY what it was. That would have been the truth. The American people would not be reacting the way they are if Obama and Clinton had been up front about that rather than trying to blame others for their failures. Which they are STILL doing to this day. They are STILL trying to press this bull**** story that they did nothing wrong. They are STILL stonewalling so that nobody can get near the truth of the situation. That is not leadership. That is cowardice and dishonesty. Character traits that a President should not have.
Blame the CIA. You do know that most Americans are not up in arms about this right? Most of us get it. Most of us disagree with you. You do know that right? I just want to make sure.
A brief story to illustrate Obama's COMPLETE lack of leadership qualities.
Complete? Don't be silly. I may hate what Bush did but at least I am honest. He wasn't a complete anything. I take it at this point we aren't even going to try to be grounded in reality. But hold on...maybe you are being rhetorical? I'll give you an opportunity here to be fair. You may not like what he has done or his style, but complete lack of leadership? Do you see why it is hard to take you seriously?
On July 3rd, 1863, General Robert E. Lee...
You fcked up. I know all about this sht, homie.
It is ENTIRELY my fault, he said. After the retreat back into Confederate territory
First of all: What in the smeg is going on in your brain? Seriously. Did you just want to talk about the glorious south so much that you reached for that? That is an appallingly incongruous analogy. A President of the United States to a commander in the field with virtually direct supervision of combat operations. PLEASE TRY HARDER next time to find an appropriate metaphor...okay? This is really beneath you, sir.
ANYHOW. YES! It was the old boy's fault. Everybody knows that. Just about everybody acknowledged it...even if indirectly in too many cases. Longstreet knew it before the debacle happened. Ewell in retrospect agreed. Picket surely understood it. IT was time for him to go. He made JUST ENOUGH bad decisions on those three days... oh well. And what is important here? HE KNEW IT. You can't have people telling you "uhh...this ain't going to work" find out that it didn't work and then NOT know that you messed up. So kudos REL for knowing the obvious AND AND AND for trying to do the right thing...admit he didn't still have the juice. Sad for everybody that he didn't commit suicide. SERIOUSLY. The lives that might have been saved? Think about it.
Anyhow...I've we've wasted enough time. In conclusion: Nothing about the spinning of Benghazi reportage relating to the deaths of 4 Americans will ever make the American people forget the
hundreds of thousands (think about that number. Just think) of humans that died under Bush. If you can't understand that I will try to explain again in an other posting...but I am going to assume you don't really care. It is political with you...not comparative. You don't like President Obama. So what's the point of going on?
Good day to you, sir.
On November 6, 2012...God blessed America
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