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I don't like it

posted 3 years ago by fc31 (6092)
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Even as I like Elle Fanning.

It is a constant struggle to decide whether to take it seriously or not. Most of the time it is serious, but Peter is just so ridiculous, make it hard to take it as a serious story.

Also I don't really like Catherine. She is so self absorbed, almost as much as Peter, if not more so. I mean I want the country to change so it would suit me, that is the central theme of the story. I bet dinosaurs thought like that, it is not the fittest to survive, if I don't fit into the environment, then the environment must change. That kind of narcissism, arrogance and entitlement seem to be the prevailing spirit being promoted.

[–] Quasimodo (16388) 3 years ago

If everyone thought like that nothing would ever change. Oh wait...

[–] fc31 (6092) 3 years ago

Things change because underlying situations changed. Liberal ideas emerged because there were more and more merchants and industrialists, and they wanted power, and due to their increasing wealth they also feared about their safety and security from those in power.

I believe that was the reason that liberal democracy eventually became mainstream, because industrialists won, took the power from monarchy.

Not because of some women in palace scheming for change.

[–] TimeTunnel (4769) a year ago

You take this show wayyyyyyy too seriously.
It's hilarious!
If you know the history of Catherine the Great and Peter III. (which you certainly do) you can understand the funny references particularly well.

The intro tells you from the start what it is about:
"An occasionally true story." 😉

[–] fc31 (6092) a year ago

But it would have been so much better if there was a different kind of Peter, I probably would have enjoyed it much more.

Because everyone else took things so seriously, it felt like a serious story at times, then he showed up and ruined it.

I have no problem with being funny, but Peter was not funny, more child like and retarded.

I still won't like Catherine, but I probably would have tolerated her and finished the show.

[–] TimeTunnel (4769) a year ago

Well, the historical Peter III. was "child like and retarded".
Probably incest damage.
In this show he lives much longer than back in the 'good ole times'. 👑

Ok ok, it's up to you if you give it a second chance.
One of my favourite 'characters' is Peter's mother mummified in a glass case.
Just a supporting actress. 💀

[–] fc31 (6092) a year ago

I don't think Peter III being called drunk idiot and child-husband was literally like that, that was from a wife who did not like him. He was probably just a party guy not in tune with politics.

Even he might have been an idiot, but for a story largely fiction why only stick to that part? Because that was just not interesting.

[–] TimeTunnel (4769) a year ago

True, most of what we know about Peter came from Catherine...the Great.
Apparently she didn't enjoy being treated like a baby machine and doormat.

I don't know how many episodes you've watched, but in the show she gets payback for her malignities. And show-Peter is in no way inferior to his wife in terms of meanness. ☺

[–] fc31 (6092) a year ago

I don't think I finished the season one, probably just half way through, I usually watch 3 episodes of a new series to see whether to continue.

Now as the show concluded I might give it another try when nothing better is on.

[–] Xcalat3 (3754) a year ago

I love Elle and I also gave it a shot but i did not like this at all.