season 4 episode 3


I haven't re watched the seasons since I originally watched them, but who is Susan Duncan?, I can't remember.

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Susan Duncan was the real genius. She had solved the protein spindle problem!


The Players of The Game are the scum of the earth.

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Susan was Ethan Duncan's wife; presumably Duncan is a married name from Ethan. I've never heard her maiden name. The two of them discovered how to clone humans.

The plan was to have been for the Duncans to raise the child born to the surrogate mother Amelia. Amelia panicked due to "excessive" testing and took Sarah and Helena and ran, eventually giving Helena to the "church" and Sarah to the "state". Therefore, the Duncans instead adopted Rachel.

There appears to be some issues that came between the Duncans that led to the end of their marriage. Susan joined the Neolution movement. There was some kind of fire set by Aldous Leekie that was supposed to have killed both Duncans, but both survived.

I still don't understand why Leekie didn't offer the information that Susan survived when Rachel and Marion terminated his employment at Dyad. Perhaps he had a backup plan that was ruined by Donnie's clumsy Pulp Fiction moment.

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Another thing that's a bit of a mystery to me is why Ethan thought Susan was dead (in the lab fire) when apparently everyone else at Dyad knew she was alive and working out on the island. I'm guessing that Ethan was just odd man out of the loop, post-lab-fire.

Be sure to proof your posts to see if you any words out

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I think Ethan went underground right after the fire and was hidden by Siobhan's people, he didn't have any contact with Dyad until Sarah found him and brought him back.

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Regarding your last paragraph, there are unfortunately several things from seasons 1 and 2 concerning Dyad, Neolution, and Topside that don't really make sense in light of what we've been shown in seasons 3 and 4 and I'm pessimistic that season 5 will do much to resolve them. Hopefully we get another IDW comic series down the road that clears some of those issues up.

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there are unfortunately several things from seasons 1 and 2 concerning Dyad, Neolution, and Topside that don't really make sense in light of what we've been shown in seasons 3 and 4 and I'm pessimistic that season 5 will do much to resolve them.
Which several things?

Topside was never explained very well. It was as if the writers dropped the Topside plotline when Michelle Forbes left the show.

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I'm going to caveat that I haven't rewatched the whole series from the beginning in quite awhile, so if I am wrong about any facts, please feel free to correct me.

The biggest issue is that, at least as I perceived it, in the earlier seasons Neolution appeared to be a "pop philosophy" concept growing out of Leekie's writings and that Leekie and those he influenced were, effectively, a faction within Topside with their own particular agenda. That Neolution was distinct from Topside was reflected in things like (a) Leekie's combative relationship with Rachel and other Topside representatives, (b) Nealon's actions in rescuing Rachel from Dyad, and (c) Ferdinand killing his assistant when he was informed that the assistant was a Neolutionist. But it now appears after the fourth season that, not only does "Neolution" long predate Leekie, but also that Neolution and Topside are coextensive.

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There are a lot of people on this show that seem to be involved in things they do not fully understand. Rachel Duncan looks like the worst case, but she may know more than she seems to. Ethan demanded that Rachel gave him some answers with regard to the purpose of Project Leda, and he killed himself when Rachel was unhelpful in this matter. Paul returned to Project Castor and discovered that Dr. Virginia Coady was trying to weaponize a sterilization pathogen. Ferdinand was working for Topside but discovered that his hitman Bulldog was working for the Neolutionists. Rachel tried to pressure Ferdinand into becoming a Neolutionist, but who knows how successful she was.

Nealon appears to have been working for Evie Cho'a Project Brightborn when you consider that he tried to "worm" Delphine, and then told her she was going to be killed, and she was shot by Evie's hitman Marty Duko. I consider Brightborn to be a Neolution subgroup.

I assume Leekie was a Neolutionist who was at odds with some of the non-Neolutionist Topsiders like Marion Bowles, but Topside itself was infiltrated by Neolution, and that in turn led to the death of Marion.

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