The draft getting screwed up because Bo was not picked first didn't make sense .
It didn't make sense how other teams were deviating from their draft picks just because Bo was not picked first, especially to screw up the team picking 6th.
The player Kosner wanted (Vonte) would have fallen to him anyways, Its not like he was going to be the 2nd pick in the draft and that is why everything was thrown off.
The other teams DIDN'T deviate from their draft picks... they took players they were predicted to take prior to the draft. Granted, all those predictions had Bo at #1, but that only serve to show up just how incompetent Jaguars GM [and his team] is.
Everything was thrown off because Bo was considered "best prospect" and "certain #1 draft pick" and then everyone kept passing him and drafting someone else.
We saw Sonny's investigator finding out some rather serious character issues in less then a day [because they didn't look into Bo as they should before]. All those teams most likely found all that and possibly other things that made them not taking Bo, even tho he's available. Bo's reaction to not being drafted at #1 probably didn't help his case either, like his agent told him.
The writing was pretty bad then since the movie didnt make it seem that way and that team that made the stupid trade for 2 round picks, acted liked because Bo didn't go first two of their players were taken when they didn't expect them to. If those two players were expected to be taken they would have known they would not be there but were frantic when they were not.
The film should made that more clear instead of just a single line... "Rams and Dolphins both went with their expected picks, even tho Bo is still available". And that's not the only thing it should have been made more clear [why did Seattle wanted out of #1 pick?], so yeah, writing could have been better.
But they did try to make a point of Jaguars GM [and his scouting team] being both inexperienced and incompetent... personally, I can see a GM who is that incompetent taking a deal and trading his #6 for three 2nd round picks.
I suspect Seattle wanted out of the first round pick because the GM knew Callahan was going to be a bust, or at the very least not as good as projected. He realized if he drafted him he would be setting his team up for failure. I suspect he was quietly shopping the number 1 around trying to find someone to give up his asking price.
When Costner got threatened with making a splash, he was called while still letting his pride simmer a bit. He accepted the deal because he wanted to make a splash.
Once he began looking into Callahan the little things started to add up, which they probably had for Seattle. Even though the Jags Gm was kind of stupid, he saw the writing on the wall, Seattle traded the number 1, and Cleveland passed on Callahan as well. He feared being in the position of looking stupid by drafting Bo and having his teams future held up for the next 3 - 4 years, which in terms of Coach/GM that could mean your career.
Seattle's GM knew Callahan wasn't as great as everyone thought, but probably felt the heat from trading the number 1 pick away.
I know, along with the many other things that didnt make sense in this entertaining and unique but highly underachieving movie.
Projected Picks (before the draft) were:
#1 Bo Callahan
#2 Guy A
#3 Guy B
#4 Guy C
#5 Guy D
#6 Guy E
#7 Jennings the Running Back or Vontae the Linebacker (these 2 were not projected to go in the top 6)
Actual Picks:
1 Vontae
2 Guy A Still available
3 Guy B Still available
4 Guy C Still available
5 Guy D still available
6 Guy E Still Available (this is were the Jaguars allege their guy has been taken already, when Guy E, as projected before the draft even started, is still available for selection)
7 Jennings the Running Back
Makes no sense. This plot point would only have worked if one of the first 5 teams picking had taken Guy E and they had no reason to as their respective guys were still on the board when they picked. Plothole.
Other things that make no sense:
-Kevin Costners wooden acting. Terrible, horrible actor.
-Jennifer garners Role in this film
-Costner and Garners "secret love affair". I guess the moviemakers believe that the female audience is too shallow to see a film that doesnt have a romantic angle.
-THEY'RE HAVIN A BABY!! (why is that relevant?)
- Giving the BIG SURPRISE away that Vontae and not Bo wud be drafted #1 overall.. We knew that as soon as that conversation took place early on in the car between Vontae and Costner.
-not giving Arian foster enough screen time.
-Not throwing out more possibilities for draft selection. We had the choice/story of just 3 players. Dead giveaway
-waiting till the last minute to decide who the #1 pick is gonna be. Or worse yet, trading for the #1 pick 10hrs before the draft. That never happens in real life. Its done days before the actual draft.
-Acting like theres only 1 round in the NFL draft. Forgetting to mention any of the other 6 rounds throughout the movie.
-Having the story of Costners dad being the beloved coach who wants his ashes spread on the field. Yuck!!
- HAVING THE WOODBOARD ACTOR NAMED KEVIN COSTNER BE THE LEAD. (how the hell did he ever make it in hollywood)
Draft Day:4/10
1/10= Toxic
3= Disappointing
5= Ok
6= Recommended
8= Excellent!
10/10= Timeless Masterpiece.
You got draft order somewhat wrong...
Projected Top 5 picks before the Draft:
#1 Bo Callahan
#2 Guy A
#3 Guy B
#4 Guy C
#5 Guy D
Actual first 3 draft picks were:
#1 Vontae
#2 Guy A [this is confirmed in the movie]
#3 Guy B [this is confirmed in the movie]
We know Guy A was Jaguars primary choice and the guy taken at #4 was their backup... it's quite possible that ALL the Teams choosing from #2 to #5 drafted players they were projected to take before the draft making Jaguars GM and his Team extremely incompetent.
Well you'd have to assume that the Jaguars had a draft board ranking their top 6 players like their SUPPOSED to do. Bo Callahan was probably #1 on their board just like every other team. So when it got to them at #6 they still had their top rated prospect in Bo available and their 6th highest rated player who was NOT Jennings or Vontae, this is a fact.
We're also told Arizona at #4 bucked the consensus mock draft and took a Cornerback. Theres no reason to suggest they would change their scheduled mock pick given Bo was still available. Either they took Bo or they take Guy C. It doesnt make any sense that Arizona would drastically change course given that Bo magically was still available, i think the line about this in the movie wasnt thought out.
Anyway, the movie dialogue is suggesting that Arizona suddenly changed its mind when it had no reason to or that the Jaguars GM was highly incompetent SIMPLY because he didnt know who his top 6 were heading into the draft ie. He had no plan at all... Because hes a rookie GM... How convenient right?
Its a plothole.. Im not wasting anymore time on this trying to scientifically analyze it when the writers couldnt be bothered either.
Did anyone find it strange that none of the Marquee/Popular NFL teams were shown on here? We got Bills, Jaguars, Chiefs and of course Cleveland. The Seahawks just won a Superbowl this year (after the movie had been filmed) but before that were not considered a Marquee team or "popular" team. Theres no Cowboys, New England, 49ers, Redskins, Steelers, Raiders?, Packers, or Chicago. Was this a nod to these lesser teams in the NFL as a way to boost their image/notoriety/fandom/awareness? Just thinking out loud...
1/10= Toxic
3= Disappointing
5= Ok
6= Recommended
8= Excellent!
10/10= Timeless Masterpiece.
Did anyone find it strange that none of the Marquee/Popular NFL teams were shown on here? We got Bills, Jaguars, Chiefs and of course Cleveland. The Seahawks just won a Superbowl this year (after the movie had been filmed) but before that were not considered a Marquee team or "popular" team. Theres no Cowboys, New England, 49ers, Redskins, Steelers, Raiders?, Packers, or Chicago. Was this a nod to these lesser teams in the NFL as a way to boost their image/notoriety/fandom/awareness? Just thinking out loud...
Should have been set in Detroit. We don't have too many feel good draft days here.
shareIt's not a plot hole it's common NFL draft sense why would you take a chance on a guy like Bo Callahan who's suppost to be this hot shot first pick for sure can't miss guy when the Browns decide not skip on him that doesn't tell you that something is wrong with Bo Callahan to make the browns want to skip him????
Hahaha did you just seriously call the 40whiners, redskins, packers, raiders and bears popular marquee teams???? you do realize all of those teams put together have 1 superbowl in almost 3 decades right????
"The People Of America Have Spoken THE REAL TITLE TOWN U.S.A IS VALDOSTA GEORGIA"
WTF?
Packers: 1996, 2010
Redskins: 1991
Bears: 1985
Miners: 1988, 1989, 1994
7 of the last 28 or 25% of the last Super Bowl winners
Your both right, the Jags were panicking even though the draft played out as planned, except Vonte instead of Bo (and they weren't planning on Vonte) and Arizona taking their backup pick. Pretty much all they the writers had to do was to say that CB was their planned pick, and now they were thrown off.
Here's another glaring omission: wouldn't SOME other team also be calling Jacksonville trying to trade up for Bo? Is Costner the only one with a working dial button? I know the guy (Jags GM) is a first time GM, but you'd think he'd have a couple calls going and be able to swing the best deal.
I agree with the host here, that didn't make sense at all. First off, they made Bo seem like the next Andrew Luck so even if there were a few character issues, in reality, most teams would have still taken Bo given that he was still available. Second off and probably the part that really didn't make sense was when Costner took Vontae over Bo then went into his office to talk to Gardner, it just so happened that everyone else was passing on Bo as well. From there Costner was able to make a trade with Jacksonville to get the 6th pick to gain leverage on Seattle which ultimately ended up getting Cleveland there firsts back with a kick returner. Which leads me to my confusion, the film didn't make it seem like Costner was anticipating other teams passing on Bo so why would you still make that pick at one not knowing other teams would pass on him. If Bo was taken at two, Costner would look like the biggest idiot in the world for taking a kid they could have gotten at 7, losing three future number one picks and paying additional salary to Vontae because he was number one. I was under the impression during the movie that Bo was suppose to be the next Peyton Manning, any other team would jump on that despite some character issues.
shareHe was pressured into making a splash by the owner, which he seemed to regret the entire film and was desperately looking for any reason to not draft Bo. Which he found in character flaws. Had Bo been picked 2nd he would not have got his first round picks back and the owner would have fired him. But he would be leaving the team with who he felt was the best player.
And just because a team is projected to take a certain player doesn't mean they're going to. The player Jacksonville wanted was taken. Call it picking out of order or a rookie mistake on the part of their GM. Either way doesn't matter. They all of sudden sitting with the 6th pick had the #1 prospect still available and they were scrambling. Costner took advantage of that and saved the day for the Browns. Is it completely realistic, not necessarily, but it's not impossible to happen that way either. If Bo goes 2nd and Costner got fired it wouldn't have been a good movie.
The fact they made a decent movie about the NFL draft is impressive, I would have never thought you could.
The thing I didn't really get was why the Jags traded the #6 pick for 3 seconds. They could have taken the consensus #1 overall pick. Even if other teams were passing on Bo, what team at #6,with a rookie GM, wouldn't jump all over that?
sharewhat team at #6,with a rookie GM, wouldn't jump all over that?
it's really not that hard to understand. the teams that passed up on bo didn't need him and didn't want him. if they did, they would have picked him. that's why you will always here agents say "that's how the draft works".
shareExcept at least 6-7 of the teams picking in the first 10 spots need a quarterback every year. That is why they are the bad teams because they don't have a legitimate QB. In the NFL, if you don't have a QB you aren't going anywhere. It starts and stops with the QB: Brees, Rodgers, Manning, Brady, Wilson, etc.
In real life Bo Callahan would have been taken with the second pick. If not by team with original #2 pick than by another team trading up to get him. PERIOD. He was a franchise QB in the same mold as Andrew Luck. No chance he gets past the second pick.
That's not always true. Just this year, Johnny Manziel was drafted #22 when he was suppose to get drafted much earlier. GMs get spooked, start second guessing or just don't feel like someone is a good fit. Just because someone is suppose to get drafted early, doesn't always work out that way.
Being a good quarterback in college isn't neccessaryly mean you going to be a frnachise player. Ryan Leaf bombed and he was drafted early while Tom Brady was drafted 199 and the rest is history.