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So why would the Seahawks trade him in the first place?

posted 10 years ago by JohnLockeShallRiseAgain
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OK, so they wanted Callahan all along, yet they trade for the three first rounders of Cleveland. Not a bad move you would think, yet the movie makes it seem as if their GM was getting more flack from fans than Sonny who was getting praised by Browns fans. Then, after Callahan starts sliding down the draft chart, their GM thinks he will be saving face by giving back all those picks he acquired earlier in the day, PLUS a good special teams guy? How would he not look like an idiot to analysts and even the biggest fan supporters of Callahan at that point.

In addition, unless I have this wrong, on the day as a whole Sonny got two first rounders (both thought to be going at 7 or later before the draft began, and really only one additional first rounder because they originally had the 7 pick), and a special teams guy that is assumed to be good but we don't really know how good. But he had to give up the next 3 years worth of 2nd rounders in order to get that 6th pick and get his other picks back from Seattle. Is that really that masterful of a trade off? And didn't the Browns have salary cap issues of their own? I know they used that as partial rationale for Seattle still willing to do the trade back and get Callahan at a cheaper contract, but the reverse should apply for Cleveland. They drafted a guy at number 1 who would've otherwise dropped to 15 or later, which means they will be paying him #1 money and then they will be paying another guy #7 money. And they now have this new special teams guy to pay. Just doesnt seem to make much sense.

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[–] aaron_savage_89 10 years ago

Utterly contemptible movie.

[–] Doc80 10 years ago

They didn't explain it when the trade was initially offered but the problem was that they couldn't afford to draft him number one because they didn't have the cap space. When they trade up with Cleveland toward the end of the film they do it because they can now get him for 7 million less and they didn't lose anything else, except for a kick returner.

[–] columntwentyfive 10 years ago

Good point Doc80, one that I completely overlooked. Let me add mine to your list?

I also think it was implied in the storyline that Bo Callahan didn't inspire team-manship with his team mates, and that the Seahawks' owner/managers knew but didn't say anything. I got the impression that in the story Callahan's personality trait was being painted as a diva who was prone to losing it under pressure.

/s/ Signature? Nah, I dont want to sign anything.

[–] McFly_2015 10 years ago

I get why the seahawks did it. Three 1sts is a pretty good return for one. The movie doesn't specify how they got the #1 pick but assuming they did it through finishing dead last, it's reasonable to believe they'd have more holes.

The pressure was on when Seahawks fans were mad about it. \

I question more why the Browns made the trade; they seemed satisfied at quarterback, the linebacker they wanted would have been available at 7

[–] sschind-396-829413 10 years ago

They made the trade because the owner basically told the GM I don't like the QB we have now. I want a QB that will sell tickets. If you don't get me that QB you will be out of a job. More than one GM has buckled under pressure from the owner I can assure you of that.

[–] dakoko 10 years ago

Nobody on his team went to his 21st birthday party. No friends. Not a team player. That's what I got out of it.

[–] sporty_1 10 years ago

Cap Space issues for a rookie contract? Huh? I never heard of that. Can you give me an example when a team can't afford to sign a #1?? That doesnt make sense because rookie contracts are built into the collective bargaing agreements just for so this situation doesnt happen.

This movie was ok, I do agree Seattle would have never given back 3 # 1's.

Think about the old cowboys,who stole like 4 #1's from Minnesota for Herchel Walker...how did the Cowboys of the 90's end up doing?

Sporty

[–] toddt07 10 years ago

After fleecing Cleveland's fool of a GM the Seahawk GM would've told him to take a hike and just taken Callahan at 7. That's what would happen in reality, the movie needed the drama to make Weaver look like a genius when he in fact was a dumbass.

[–] lemner 10 years ago

Seattle wasn't sure they could get Bo at 7, because Sonny had traded for 6.

First trade: Seattle will trade for 1 if they can get someone desperate enough to give them too good of a deal, supposedly because of salary cap issues.
Sonny trades after first saying no, because his owner is threatening him with being fired if he doesn't "make a splash."

Sonny finds out Bo is a bust, based on knowledge of his character acquired from several sources after making the trade. (No one else knows of any fault in Bo.) Sonny also finds out that their own player, Drew, is not only no longer problematical, but in better shape than ever, so they don't really need a player at Bo's position.

Bo tumbles after being passed over at 1, partly because the next few teams don't need him, partly because everyone thinks Sonny knows something they don't. (Sonny does know something they don't, but it has to do with character, which the others probably wouldn't worry about.)

Sonny takes advantage of the confusion to get pick 6, so he can trade to Seattle. He tells that manager that Bo is a bust.

He now expects Seattle to want Bo, because the fans were outraged at the first trade and demanding the firing of the Seattle manager. And, Sonny is supposedly saving them 7 million, because Bo is no longer first pick. So he gets his picks back, but he waits till they agree, but has everyone be quiet, so Seattle will think he was off line and didn't hear them agree; that way he can come back with an additional demand, now that he knows they will give his picks back. Then he asks everyone in the room, "what do we need?" That way they get a minor player, but one they need, and the coach gets to feel he had some input.

Sonny then uses his 7 pick to get the other player they wanted, the RB, whom they probably would not have been able to get originally, because he would have been picked before the second round.

The end result is that the Browns get to pick both of the players they were originally considering, instead of just one, plus an additional player they need on a trade. What they gave in return was 3 second round picks, but it was a good deal, because they really liked both of their picks. Sonny wanted Vantae "no matter what," and the coach seemed to be leaning toward the running back, because he was initially telling a story about how great he was at avoiding being tackled.

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[–] Prismark10 10 years ago

All I could think was that I live in a country where American football is a niche sport and the movie is doing nothing to help me understand what is going on!

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