It used to be that every once in a while you saw a movie that sounded somewhat similar to another previously made movie. Now days it's a contest to see who can name the original film first. It's no longer a question of whether or not it's a remake or a rip-off. That's a given.
Clearly you didn't even watch the film seeing as you posted this back in July and it just came out today. You came on here and read the synopsis and made a snap judgement. I've seen both of the films and CRAWL OR DIE has nothing in common with Children of Men other than that small plot point. CRAWL OR DIE takes place completely underground in a small tunnel system and they are being chased by a bloodthirsty alien the whole time. How the *beep* is that like Children of Men?
I get that not everyone will like a movie, but at least watch it before you come on here and try and be a "critic". The job of somebody - if you are trying to be a critic - is to watch or read the material before making a snap judgement. You claiming that it is just a remake is ridiculous. While there were things I like and didn't like about CRAWL OR DIE - I will say - I have NEVER in my 10 plus years of intense film viewing seen any film that LOOKS like this one. That is where this film is a complete original. And the second half of this film might just be one of the best sci-fi horror driven plots in the year of 2014 in my opinion.
I'll be posting my official review later, but watching people stand on a street corner and scream about a product without knowing a damn thing about the product is ridiculous and small minded. Just watch the damn movie and you'll have to agree that you have never seen one that looks like this and that it has nothing to do with Children of Men whether you like the movie or not.
Good points. I'm very curious about this movie.. Doesn't seem anything like Children of Men. Not sure where this guy is getting that impression.
Just please tell me that you are not affiliated with the cast and crew or were compensated for this review. Unfortunately, I see it all too often with small budget movies on IMDB.
I am in no way affiliated with the movie. I'm just a lover of film - particularly horror which I think it's hard to find anything original in this genre anymore, and I really loved this movie. I also viewed it under the context. It is independent - you can tell there was probably no budget - but I see a lot of passion and vision there. I think the second half of this movie just rocks extremely hard. I myself am not claustrophobic, but really started to have a hard time breathing and had to stand up 2 or 3 times. I can't think of the last time a film made me do that - even with a large budget. But no - I am not affiliated with the film - I see that a lot too.
I am in no way affiliated with the movie. I'm just a lover of film - particularly horror which I think it's hard to find anything original in this genre anymore, and I really loved this movie. I also viewed it under the context. It is independent - you can tell there was probably no budget - but I see a lot of passion and vision there. I think the second half of this movie just rocks extremely hard. I myself am not claustrophobic, but really started to have a hard time breathing and had to stand up 2 or 3 times. I can't think of the last time a film made me do that - even with a large budget. But no - I am not affiliated with the film - I see that a lot too.
You're going to have a difficult time convincing the IMDB members who have been here a while that you're not affiliated with this movie. Especially since you just signed up 3 weeks ago and the only review or message board posts you have are regarding this movie. Plus, the comments you make are a little too ridiculous:
While there were things I like and didn't like about CRAWL OR DIE - I will say - I have NEVER in my 10 plus years of intense film viewing seen any film that LOOKS like this one. That is where this film is a complete original.
Because you've never seen any film that looks like this one, that's what makes this film original?
By the way, who makes comments like "in my 10 plus years of intense film viewing"? WTF does that mean?
Just watch the damn movie and you'll have to agree that you have never seen one that looks like this...
Even before I finished the movie I was constantly reminded of Alien and its sequel Aliens. For Alien, the movie is reminiscent of Dallas' maze through the tunnels to find the alien. For Aliens, the movie is reminiscent of Bishop's crawl through the tunnels but also the end when the group goes through the tunnels. Especially when Tank uses the red lights it is clear to see the connection. Plus, Tank is clearly reminiscent of the Vasquez character with the no-nonsense bad girl attitude that doesn't smile or cry and has a dyke-like vibe.
The Alien and Aliens influence will be clear to anyone who has seen those movies when watching Crawl or Die. It was certainly clear to me. But then I saw the link that chrismackey kid posted in his thread for this film and it said some newspaper had called the creature the best looking creature since Alien. So obviously they saw the connection. What's more, the movie is actually called Alien Crawl in Japan.
I don't think this movie is a rip-off of Alien and Aliens. In fact, I am glad someone made a movie based the premise of a group of soldiers fighting their way through tunnels. I 100% agree with you on these two quotes:
I'm just a lover of film - particularly horror which I think it's hard to find anything original in this genre anymore...
...but watching people stand on a street corner and scream about a product without knowing a damn thing about the product is ridiculous and small minded.
I don't think there is a horror film fan alive who will disagree with your first quote. Horror films not only need original ideas, they need them executed competently. Just because this movie isn't entirely original, doesn't mean it is a rip-off or anything bad. I believe making a movie based on those two scenes in Alien and Aliens was a great idea. Some people don't. That happens. But it's disingenuous to say this movie is only marginally similar to Alien at best simply because you're afraid of it being labeled an Alien ripoff. Secondly, it's going to be hard to convince people you aren't a shill for this movie based on the stuff about you I posted above and quotes you make like this:
I think the second half of this movie just rocks extremely hard. I myself am not claustrophobic, but really started to have a hard time breathing and had to stand up 2 or 3 times. I can't think of the last time a film made me do that - even with a large budget. But no - I am not affiliated with the film - I see that a lot too.
So you're not claustrophobic but you had such a hard time breathing while watching this movie that you had to stand up 2 or 3 times to catch your breath? Really? It's the extreme comments like these that make people quick to throw out the shill accusation. Shill reviews can never be sober. They always have to give 9 or 10 stars to movies that deserves 5 stars or lower. Plus, their reviews feature the most over-the-top praise for these movies. I read one review for a horror movie that was filmed for $8,000 ($1,000 more than this movie) and looked like it was filmed on a camcorder. The reviewer said she had been following the movie for 2 years (I believe you followed this for one year) and when she got the DVD, she actually started feeling scared and agitated just from putting the DVD in the player. Then she curled into a blanket and kept her finger on the stop button of her DVD remote because she felt the movie would be so scary she would have to turn it off. So this woman said she actually started to feel fear and anxiety from this movie before the opening credits and she expects people not to label her a shill? Right.
Now we have a poster who watched this $7,000 movie and said she's not claustrophobic but in her "10 plus years of intense film viewing" this is the first time she's had a movie scare her so much she had trouble breathing and had stand up and steady herself 2 or 3 times. And she expects us to believe she's not a shill? There is no way anyone could make that comment about this movie and not be a shill. It's just not possible.
I see what you're saying, but there's always one film that convinces you to open an Imdb account, just so you can comment on it. Maybe that's what she did. Or maybe you're right, I don't know. Or maybe she just exaggerated her reaction to the film a bit just to get her point across.
Anyway, I loved the film. I almost switched it off early on, but once they climbed into the tunnels/pipes, I thought it was different so stuck with it, and by the end I felt I'd seen something kind of unique. And no, it's nothing like Children of Men :)
I've seen Aliens and Cube 100 times - love them both, just as I love this movie. Aliens didn't take place entirely in small tunnels and wasn't claustrophobic at all - the only scene in that movie that comes close to being as claustrophobic as CRAWL OR DIE is when Bishop enters that small tube - which I heard an interview from this director saying that was in fact an inspiration to him. But in Aliens - we only spend a few seconds in that tube with Bishop - this is the whole movie. CRAWL OR DIE is really about the struggle to survive when there's no way out and to keep moving forward. Sure - there's aspects of it that nod to other great films like Cube, but ALL films do that. Point is - visually - it is an original, and I've never seen anything that looked like this. And coming from an independent filmmaker - when everybody is screaming that they are tired of Hollywood remakes - I'd say we're watching the budding start of somebody trying to create something unique with very little money, and I'm really hoping that they get a larger budget for the sequel. That's my opinion though.
Well since I have the Blu-Ray Alien special edition package with all 4 films - I watch it all the time. It's my favorite film franchise. And about 7 alien t-shirts - yeah I kinda geek on the Alien franchise, lol. Ridley Scott might be my favorite director ever.
Its not like Children of Men, and that's a good thing. Children of Men was so much better than this. This was boring as hell, and I never got that sense of claustrophobia at all. I'm not sure what they were going for with this movie, but in my opinion, it failed. I was yawning through this big time.
There's very little that is similar between this and Aliens.
Have you seen the movies Alien and Aliens? The scene where Dallas is in the tunnel definitely influenced this movie. The scene where Bishop is crawling through the tunnel or where the group are trying to make their way to ship in that red light tunnel definitely influenced this movie. Or how about the white outfit of the doctor and the pregnant woman being similar to the white outfits worn in the first Alien. Plus, Tank is definitely reminiscent of Vasquez. The whole idea of a group of soldiers being taken out one by one doesn't seem reminiscent of Alien to you? Or how about the fact that this movie is called "Alien Crawl" in Japan?
All those things say to you, "Hmm...there's very little similarity between this and the first two Alien movies." Really?
I don't have a problem with this movie being influenced by Alien and Aliens. I have a problem with you guys who are affiliated with this movie pretending like this movie is 100% original because you're scared of this being called a ripoff. If you guys just own up to the Alien and Aliens influence and act professional by saying, "We were intrigued by the scenes in Alien and its first sequel about the idea of a group of people trapped in a maze of tunnels with a deadly alien. We wanted to take that idea from those movies and create it into an engaging experience for the audience. Although the plot isn't original, we strongly desired to create an intense viewing experience for the audience so they can feel it is presented as a fresh take on a concept that will be familiar to many viewers." Saying something like that will definitely get many audience members on your side. It's better than saying, "Nah, dis here movie ain't nothin like dat whatchamacallit movie by Ridley Scott. Dis here movie is completely original. Any similarities between dis here movie and that other feller's movie is pee-yore-lee coincidentally. Guffaw!"
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So now I'm supposed to know what it's called in another country? Are you kidding?
I would think you would since the information regarding it's name in Japan is in the link you posted in the other thread. Perhaps you don't read your own links...?
In any case, my apologies for saying you're involved in this movie. I don't know how often you check out IMDB user reviews and message board posts for obscure indie movies made within the last 10 years, like this movie. If you check them often, you've definitely noticed many of them have reviews and comments from people obviously in some way involved with the movie. The other chick who posted in this thread, Melissa-something, definitely had all the traits of an internet shill. And she also said this movie doesn't have any similarities to other movies. So when you said how you didn't see similarities to other movies, I thought, "Okay. Here's another shill." But after reviewing the other comments you've made about this movie, I can see you're genuine.
Too late, dude. I've already seen The Cemetery. I saw it weeks ago. I wish I hadn't seen it but I did. It's pure torture porn. The camera work and editing were total garbage. There's no suspense, character development, innovative kills, engaging situations, or anything worth talking about. Just an excuse to cash in on quick torture porn.
Pretty funny how in your above post you sternly scolded him for assuming you were part of the movie team but then are quick to assume I am simply because I liked the movie more than you. I'm not involved with the film in any way - as I've already stated on another thread, and you're pretty much being a hypocrite right now.
I love this movie because I am a woman and women as badass and inspirational as Tank in films are FEW and FAR between. Tank is the best character to come along since Ripley and Sarah Connor in my opinion. Also - I never said that this movie was nothing like other movies. I said it LOOKS nothing like other movies. Send me a link to ONE other movie that takes place entirely in tunnels - the whole thing. I also never said this movie didn't have any problems. I just watched it and took it for what it was - a low budget indie. So please don't put words in my mouth. I am a fan of this movie and I stand by my rating.
If you think I'm fake - feel free to look me up on any social media site.
If everyone here has noticed - I have been very respectful of all the reviews and opinions - good and bad - on my film. I truly do believe everyone has a right to like or dislike a film.
I mean that.
I take the good with the bad.
I have also noticed that many are upset with what you all here on IMDB call 'plants' or friends of the filmmaker posting reviews. I have also respected that - that is why I came onto the board - to help answer any questions on that front.
What I would like to ask of the IMDB members that have been upset with those people that they feel may be 'plants' - to be fair and that 'that' criteria/concern should work both ways.
There is one person whom wrote a review that joined IMDB under the name YOUKUNT 1 week ago and posted under the name Mark Whipple - they wrote a review filled with commentary on race/gender - my film is their only review - and I am only asking help in how I go about putting in a formal complaint with that person and the review and getting that person removed.
Please keep in mind I have never put down or tried/questioned anyone else that has given a bad review - they are real members as far as I can tell - and I respect that they did not like the film - but that review by Mark Whipple/aka YOUKUNT is just a hate review by a person disrespectful of women/race and has no place on IMDB in my opinion.
Thank You for any help in guiding me on how I go about informing IMDB of this person and review.
Yeah - but how many of them have a male counterpart. Almost all of them save for the original Alien. Sarah Conner had the Terminator or Reese, Ripley in every other Alien movie had Hicks, Ron Perlman, etc., Alice had Matt, Domino Harvey had Ed and Choco, Selene in Underworld had Michael. I could go on. My point is - it's refreshing to see a woman character that stands on her own. In this movie - REALLY the last 3 people left all rely on Tank. The Doc was no help. And then it's just down to 2 women and then just Tank. There was no male supporting Tank as they all got killed off rather quickly (much like the original Alien, which is why I love it so much). Women don't get that chance in movies often to be the SOLE heroine without any male "backup".
Even if you look at the movies that do focus on women heroines only like The Descent. How many are we talking about in the grand scheme of things. Like I said - FEW and FAR between.